Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Right wing Richie wrote:

agip wrote:

Hi Kids.

yes, the US stock market hit yet another all-time high today. Again. +29% over the past year.

Joe-nomics continues to kick tushie.

you SURE you want to go back to the wall street crashes of Bush2 and Trump? You really think betting your 401k on a con man who bankrupts casinos is a good plan when your portfolio is going to the moon with Biden?

Trump business failures (aka cons)
1. Trump Steaks
2. GoTrump
3. Trump Airlines
4. Trump Vodka
5. Trump Mortgage
6. Trump: The GamTrump Magazine
8. Trump University
9. Trump Ice
10. The New Jersey Generals
11. Tour de Trump
12. Trump Network
13. Trumped!

Trump bankruptcies
1. Trump Taj Mahal
2. Trump’s Castle
3. Trump Plaza Casinos
4. Trump Plaza Hotel
5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts
6. Trump Entertainment Resorts

Trump has been named or involved in over 4095 lawsuits

Trump's fines & settlements over the years...
1988: $750K Anti-trust lawsuit Bally
1990: $750K Defamation for accurately predicting Trump Taj Mahal would fail
1991: $200K Removing black workers from casino floor
1991: $30K Circumventing state regulations
1998: $1.4M Hiring of undocumented workers
1998: $447K Money laundering violations
2000: $250K NYS Lobby Commission
2006: $100K Palm Beach flag ordinance
2015: $799K Defamation Trump University Student
2015: $10M Money laundering violations
2016: $50K Data & credit card breaches
2016: $1.3M FEC disclosure errors
2017: $25M: Trump University fraud
2019: $2M: Trump Foundation fraud
2019: $290K: Scotland wind farm
2021: $122M: Trump campaign forced to refund to donors
2022: $110K: Contempt of Court
2022: $750K: Funneling Inaugural funds to his business
2022: $1.6M Guilty 17 counts criminal tax fraud
2023: CFO sentenced to prison
2023: $10K for attacking court personnel
2023: $1M Court sanctions bogus lawsuit including $171K to be paid to Hillary
2023: $5M E Jean Carroll sexual assault
2024: $83.3M E Jean Carroll defamation
2024: $392K Court sanctions bogus lawsuit- NY Times
2024: $453M business fraud

ETTD

agip wrote:

juicy wrote:

I'll agree. But, that is where we are.

As a Dem I will concede that the Dems royally f'd up in 2020. They had a chance to push forward a younger candidate that people could get excited about. Instead they went with Joe because "it was his turn." I think the assumption was that he wouldn't run for a second term. Well, Old Joe didn't comply. Now we're stuck in this situation. It was an unforced error.

I still think the vote against Trump is very large and whomever the Dem candidate is, will win. But, man we shouldn't have been in this position to begin with.

hmmm was 2020 an error?

I don't think so. Joe was fine in 2020. He's not as fine anymore.

And Joe beat an incumbent president in 2020! That hadn't been done since what...1992? That's not nothing. It's a lot. hard to call that an error.

And Joe brought along Kamala as a rep of the next gen, like you recommended. She hasn't done all that great. Maybe not a big hunger for young faces in 2020. maybe we just wanted some normalcy with a familiar face - Joe's.

So maybe Biden 2020 wasn't an error, but Biden 2024 is.

Precious Roy wrote:

Pelosi went on Morning Joe and would not say that she is behind Biden staying in the race. Instead, she said that it is up to Biden whether he continues and that he needs to make a final decision very soon. Pelosi knows that Biden watches Morning Joe every day and this was a clear shot across the bow at Biden's backers who have doubled down on Biden staying in the race to the bitter end. This comes after a hot mike moment with Stephanopolous telling a stranger that he doesn't think Biden can last for another 4 year. George Clooney and Richie Torres also came out against Biden staying in the race. The Pod Save America boys and David Axelrad have also been beating the drum about Biden needing to drop out. And Carville has been very vocal about Biden bringing the party down if he continues.

Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer came out in support of Biden after a big congressional Dem caucus meeting. But they clearly have not convinced the rank and file that this is the right way to go and may have lost control over the situation. The DNC machine that dumped on Bernie to get Biden the nomination in 2020 and set up a 2024 primary that made it impossible for anyone to compete with Biden has lost control and possibly burned bridges as evidence mounts of a concerted effort to conceal Biden's decline. Bernie Sanders has supported Biden and made the best move. He called on Biden to get away from note cards and teleprompters and have more direct and unscripted interactions with the press and public. Bernie knows that Biden isn't up to that. So, that is pretty much Bernie's way of making it clear that he wants Biden to step aside without openly trying to undermine Biden.

The interesting side effect of all this is that Trump can't seem to get a minute in the media as the Biden issue has completely sucked the air out of the room. Trump's 2024 campaign has been trying to be more populist after a very M#GA on steroids primary campaign. Trump has tried to distance himself from Project 2025 and abortion bans. He floated no taxes for tipped workers to try to pull in disaffected working class voters. But nothing is getting through because it has been all Biden since the debate disaster. Trump's base is full of energy, but Trump has not been able to get enough screen time to get through to non-Trump voters to ensure that he will be able to beat Biden as handily as many are predicting. And if Biden steps aside, Trump will be back to square one as a new Dem candidate will get a big boost in enthusiasm and tons of media attention.

Trollminator wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

Pelosi went on Morning Joe and would not say that she is behind Biden staying in the race. Instead, she said that it is up to Biden whether he continues and that he needs to make a final decision very soon. Pelosi knows that Biden watches Morning Joe every day and this was a clear shot across the bow at Biden's backers who have doubled down on Biden staying in the race to the bitter end. This comes after a hot mike moment with Stephanopolous telling a stranger that he doesn't think Biden can last for another 4 year. George Clooney and Richie Torres also came out against Biden staying in the race. The Pod Save America boys and David Axelrad have also been beating the drum about Biden needing to drop out. And Carville has been very vocal about Biden bringing the party down if he continues.

Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer came out in support of Biden after a big congressional Dem caucus meeting. But they clearly have not convinced the rank and file that this is the right way to go and may have lost control over the situation. The DNC machine that dumped on Bernie to get Biden the nomination in 2020 and set up a 2024 primary that made it impossible for anyone to compete with Biden has lost control and possibly burned bridges as evidence mounts of a concerted effort to conceal Biden's decline. Bernie Sanders has supported Biden and made the best move. He called on Biden to get away from note cards and teleprompters and have more direct and unscripted interactions with the press and public. Bernie knows that Biden isn't up to that. So, that is pretty much Bernie's way of making it clear that he wants Biden to step aside without openly trying to undermine Biden.

The interesting side effect of all this is that Trump can't seem to get a minute in the media as the Biden issue has completely sucked the air out of the room. Trump's 2024 campaign has been trying to be more populist after a very M#GA on steroids primary campaign. Trump has tried to distance himself from Project 2025 and abortion bans. He floated no taxes for tipped workers to try to pull in disaffected working class voters. But nothing is getting through because it has been all Biden since the debate disaster. Trump's base is full of energy, but Trump has not been able to get enough screen time to get through to non-Trump voters to ensure that he will be able to beat Biden as handily as many are predicting. And if Biden steps aside, Trump will be back to square one as a new Dem candidate will get a big boost in enthusiasm and tons of media attention.

Solid post... it shows how vulnerable trump's already limited strategy is. He is still lucky Biden blew the last debate because trump was horrible and had NOTHING to offer... but clearly none of this is moving the needle much for either side. I can see Ds being complacent now but just can't see how on earth Trump wins any additional votes. This has always been the D's to lose.

Your observation also reflects the left leaning media behavior. They want clicks at all costs, and right now it's not Trump but Biden's health. Trumpers claim msm is so against trump but they've mostly helped him big time and he has been a cash cow. Maybe Biden can somehow capitalize on this new attention he's getting and sell his aging brain to the msm so they help him out thinking he'll haul in more clicks though 2028 than Trump would. That's the state of things in America right now.

mick jogger wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Solid post... it shows how vulnerable trump's already limited strategy is. He is still lucky Biden blew the last debate because trump was horrible and had NOTHING to offer... but clearly none of this is moving the needle much for either side. I can see Ds being complacent now but just can't see how on earth Trump wins any additional votes. This has always been the D's to lose.

Your observation also reflects the left leaning media behavior. They want clicks at all costs, and right now it's not Trump but Biden's health. Trumpers claim msm is so against trump but they've mostly helped him big time and he has been a cash cow. Maybe Biden can somehow capitalize on this new attention he's getting and sell his aging brain to the msm so they help him out thinking he'll haul in more clicks though 2028 than Trump would. That's the state of things in America right now.

There is a school of thought that it would be political suicide for the Democrats to announce anybody right now for that very reason. Even if Biden steps aside. Trump does not know who to attack. Nor does Fox News. And the uncertainty is the reason Trump is not announcing his VP pick which he promised to do like a month ago. He doesn't know what to do when his entire schtick is to attack an enemy.

The RNC convention is July 15th. If this is not resolved all the air will be vacuumed out of that too.

Precious Roy wrote:

Pelosi went on Morning Joe and would not say that she is behind Biden staying in the race. Instead, she said that it is up to Biden whether he continues and that he needs to make a final decision very soon. Pelosi knows that Biden watches Morning Joe every day and this was a clear shot across the bow at Biden's backers who have doubled down on Biden staying in the race to the bitter end. This comes after a hot mike moment with Stephanopolous telling a stranger that he doesn't think Biden can last for another 4 year. George Clooney and Richie Torres also came out against Biden staying in the race. The Pod Save America boys and David Axelrad have also been beating the drum about Biden needing to drop out. And Carville has been very vocal about Biden bringing the party down if he continues.

Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer came out in support of Biden after a big congressional Dem caucus meeting. But they clearly have not convinced the rank and file that this is the right way to go and may have lost control over the situation. The DNC machine that dumped on Bernie to get Biden the nomination in 2020 and set up a 2024 primary that made it impossible for anyone to compete with Biden has lost control and possibly burned bridges as evidence mounts of a concerted effort to conceal Biden's decline. Bernie Sanders has supported Biden and made the best move. He called on Biden to get away from note cards and teleprompters and have more direct and unscripted interactions with the press and public. Bernie knows that Biden isn't up to that. So, that is pretty much Bernie's way of making it clear that he wants Biden to step aside without openly trying to undermine Biden.

The interesting side effect of all this is that Trump can't seem to get a minute in the media as the Biden issue has completely sucked the air out of the room. Trump's 2024 campaign has been trying to be more populist after a very M#GA on steroids primary campaign. Trump has tried to distance himself from Project 2025 and abortion bans. He floated no taxes for tipped workers to try to pull in disaffected working class voters. But nothing is getting through because it has been all Biden since the debate disaster. Trump's base is full of energy, but Trump has not been able to get enough screen time to get through to non-Trump voters to ensure that he will be able to beat Biden as handily as many are predicting. And if Biden steps aside, Trump will be back to square one as a new Dem candidate will get a big boost in enthusiasm and tons of media attention.

Hardloper wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

Pelosi went on Morning Joe and would not say that she is behind Biden staying in the race. Instead, she said that it is up to Biden whether he continues and that he needs to make a final decision very soon. Pelosi knows that Biden watches Morning Joe every day and this was a clear shot across the bow at Biden's backers who have doubled down on Biden staying in the race to the bitter end. This comes after a hot mike moment with Stephanopolous telling a stranger that he doesn't think Biden can last for another 4 year. George Clooney and Richie Torres also came out against Biden staying in the race. The Pod Save America boys and David Axelrad have also been beating the drum about Biden needing to drop out. And Carville has been very vocal about Biden bringing the party down if he continues.

Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer came out in support of Biden after a big congressional Dem caucus meeting. But they clearly have not convinced the rank and file that this is the right way to go and may have lost control over the situation. The DNC machine that dumped on Bernie to get Biden the nomination in 2020 and set up a 2024 primary that made it impossible for anyone to compete with Biden has lost control and possibly burned bridges as evidence mounts of a concerted effort to conceal Biden's decline. Bernie Sanders has supported Biden and made the best move. He called on Biden to get away from note cards and teleprompters and have more direct and unscripted interactions with the press and public. Bernie knows that Biden isn't up to that. So, that is pretty much Bernie's way of making it clear that he wants Biden to step aside without openly trying to undermine Biden.

The interesting side effect of all this is that Trump can't seem to get a minute in the media as the Biden issue has completely sucked the air out of the room. Trump's 2024 campaign has been trying to be more populist after a very M#GA on steroids primary campaign. Trump has tried to distance himself from Project 2025 and abortion bans. He floated no taxes for tipped workers to try to pull in disaffected working class voters. But nothing is getting through because it has been all Biden since the debate disaster. Trump's base is full of energy, but Trump has not been able to get enough screen time to get through to non-Trump voters to ensure that he will be able to beat Biden as handily as many are predicting. And if Biden steps aside, Trump will be back to square one as a new Dem candidate will get a big boost in enthusiasm and tons of media attention.

Actually Trump has stayed out of the media because for once, he was smart. Normally when there's a bad news cycle for Democrats, he sparks a new controversy to make the news focus on him again. This time he let them hang themselves for two weeks. He even held off announcing his VP pick.