flagpoling wrote:
Referendum wrote:What is true is that repubtards fail to grasp WHY those special elections were being held. Republicans held the seats and signed on with the orange devil; meaning they had to give up their seats.
Now move along little 'tards.
So what? You still lost!!!!!
Nope. You BARELY managed to hold a seat YOUR party has held for 40 years.
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Referendum wrote:
Nope. You BARELY managed to hold a seat YOUR party has held for 40 years.
libs lost the presidency, the senate, the house, 32 states of republican control, and now four of four special elections. why the HELL should we listen to anything your cucked brain has to say?? All you libs know is how to LOSE!!!
kekistani wrote:
libs lost ... four of four special elections.
You are too stupid to understand those special elections were for REPLACING REPUBLICANS who RESIGNED. Do try to keep up.
Take his Obama Phone back wrote:
You are the most unhinged poster on this thread. Energized to take action against Trump? That is utterly laughable dumb pole.
Would you like to make a wager on it as I'll gladly bet that he'll still be President in 4 years. Your buddies, the Clintons and Obama did way worse than anything Trump has done but your undersized yet over-biased brain can't figure it out.
Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick...the sound of your guarantee that Trump wouldn't win, NO Way ever you said, but you were wrong. Now you're trying to justify it on a running forum and you've got less steam than Thomas the Train.
Get a clue dude, he's not going anywhere, period. Maybe you'll get your FREE stuff in 4 years, maybe not, but it won't be less than that.
Are you mad because you had to turn in your Obama Phone??? Is that what your hostility is really about??? [quote]Flagpole wrote:
1) Handel's win was good for Republicans and bad for Democrats.
2) I do not wager.
3) Not clear yet that Trump hasn't done anything worse than Clinton or Obama. I would argue that Obama never did anything shady compared to Trump, but I will not defend Clinton. Also, matters not what anyone before Trump did. It only matters what he is doing now because he is the President. Shady at best so far, and it appears that no one on his staff can talk him out of shooting himself in the foot, so we will see what happens. There is no doubt that Trump has less character and integrity by far of any President ever. "Two Corinthians" should tell you he's a phony...because he is.
4) Obama Phone is a misnomer as it was a program started in 1984 under REAGAN. But, even in your fantasy Obama Phone world, no, I did not have to turn in a phone. I am debt free, including owning my own home outright, and I make WAY too much money to qualify for such a program.
5) Trump very well might not go anywhere. We shall see. Today was a good day for him. He is crooked though and you should want him gone as soon as possible. I can wait. All accounts are that he is miserable in his job as President, so I can hang my hat on that for now.
FAGpole, the only hat you have is an a$$ hat😆
Flagpole wrote:
Take his Obama Phone back wrote:You are the most unhinged poster on this thread. Energized to take action against Trump? That is utterly laughable dumb pole.
Would you like to make a wager on it as I'll gladly bet that he'll still be President in 4 years. Your buddies, the Clintons and Obama did way worse than anything Trump has done but your undersized yet over-biased brain can't figure it out.
Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick...the sound of your guarantee that Trump wouldn't win, NO Way ever you said, but you were wrong. Now you're trying to justify it on a running forum and you've got less steam than Thomas the Train.
Get a clue dude, he's not going anywhere, period. Maybe you'll get your FREE stuff in 4 years, maybe not, but it won't be less than that.
Are you mad because you had to turn in your Obama Phone??? Is that what your hostility is really about??? [quote]Flagpole wrote:
1) Handel's win was good for Republicans and bad for Democrats.
2) I do not wager.
3) Not clear yet that Trump hasn't done anything worse than Clinton or Obama. I would argue that Obama never did anything shady compared to Trump, but I will not defend Clinton. Also, matters not what anyone before Trump did. It only matters what he is doing now because he is the President. Shady at best so far, and it appears that no one on his staff can talk him out of shooting himself in the foot, so we will see what happens. There is no doubt that Trump has less character and integrity by far of any President ever. "Two Corinthians" should tell you he's a phony...because he is.
4) Obama Phone is a misnomer as it was a program started in 1984 under REAGAN. But, even in your fantasy Obama Phone world, no, I did not have to turn in a phone. I am debt free, including owning my own home outright, and I make WAY too much money to qualify for such a program.
5) Trump very well might not go anywhere. We shall see. Today was a good day for him. He is crooked though and you should want him gone as soon as possible. I can wait. All accounts are that he is miserable in his job as President, so I can hang my hat on that for now.
LOL!! You're such a silly, silly man.
You've been saying nothing. Dumb Dems vote for dumb Dems, I've been saying this for weeks, look back at my posts. I know everything and can predict everything, you know nothing. But...Dems vote for Dems and Republicans vote for Republicans...wow you are a bright one.
Fat hurts wrote:
U B Wrong Boy wrote:Yes, he was favored because they put $50 million into the election to almost guarantee it, the most expensive ever for that position. Get a clue FAT HEAD, Ossoff LOST and was suppose to win.
Republicans vote for Republicans no matter how much you spend. I've been saying for weeks that Handel would win. Look back at my posts. There simply aren't enough Democrats in the 6th district for Ossoff to win it.
And you're too stupid to understand that the Right still beat the Free Stuff Left, so how bad can it be for the Right? Not as bad as it is for your give me free stuff side. Ouch, that must have really stung, eh? Do try to keep up.
Referendum wrote:
kekistani wrote:libs lost ... four of four special elections.
You are too stupid to understand those special elections were for REPLACING REPUBLICANS who RESIGNED. Do try to keep up.
And YOUR party lost states in the MAIN election that they hadn't lost in decades!!!!!!!!!!! Do try to keep up.
Referendum wrote:
flagpoling wrote:So what? You still lost!!!!!
Nope. You BARELY managed to hold a seat YOUR party has held for 40 years.
No, it's not a misnomer at all. He wanted to take credit for it you bonehead and we didn't have cell phones in 1984 like we did when Obama became President. Ya can't have it both ways, he wanted to steal from Reagan, Bush and Clinton, so he called it Obama Phones and was proud. Stay with me poleflag. If the country were truly racist, there could never be a black president as the majority of whites would vote for anyone white. Did I lose ya there? Yet, over 90% of blacks voted for Obama, so who's racist?Hillary was a crooked as they come, but you voted for her. All accounts on Trump are not miserable, only your jealous accounts because you were proven wrong. List the shady things that Trump did. Afterwards, I'll give you Obama's list. Man you are not only a sore loser and biased, you're not that bright. As for you money, he who yells the loudest:):):):):):):):):):)
Flagpole wrote:
Take his Obama Phone back wrote:You are the most unhinged poster on this thread. Energized to take action against Trump? That is utterly laughable dumb pole.
Would you like to make a wager on it as I'll gladly bet that he'll still be President in 4 years. Your buddies, the Clintons and Obama did way worse than anything Trump has done but your undersized yet over-biased brain can't figure it out.
Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick...the sound of your guarantee that Trump wouldn't win, NO Way ever you said, but you were wrong. Now you're trying to justify it on a running forum and you've got less steam than Thomas the Train.
Get a clue dude, he's not going anywhere, period. Maybe you'll get your FREE stuff in 4 years, maybe not, but it won't be less than that.
Are you mad because you had to turn in your Obama Phone??? Is that what your hostility is really about??? [quote]Flagpole wrote:
1) Handel's win was good for Republicans and bad for Democrats.
2) I do not wager.
3) Not clear yet that Trump hasn't done anything worse than Clinton or Obama. I would argue that Obama never did anything shady compared to Trump, but I will not defend Clinton. Also, matters not what anyone before Trump did. It only matters what he is doing now because he is the President. Shady at best so far, and it appears that no one on his staff can talk him out of shooting himself in the foot, so we will see what happens. There is no doubt that Trump has less character and integrity by far of any President ever. "Two Corinthians" should tell you he's a phony...because he is.
4) Obama Phone is a misnomer as it was a program started in 1984 under REAGAN. But, even in your fantasy Obama Phone world, no, I did not have to turn in a phone. I am debt free, including owning my own home outright, and I make WAY too much money to qualify for such a program.
5) Trump very well might not go anywhere. We shall see. Today was a good day for him. He is crooked though and you should want him gone as soon as possible. I can wait. All accounts are that he is miserable in his job as President, so I can hang my hat on that for now.
I think we can sum things up by saying that Republicans keep winning elections despite of (or because of) investigations into Trump.
And Trump still has vocal, loyal supporters.
There is a big geographical divide in the country.
And Republicans are very spread out while Democrats are concentrated in fewer areas but probably outnumber Republicans on the whole.
I don't see liberals moving out the countryside any time soon.
What has to happen for Democrats is - Republicans gain power, make bad policy decisions and create Republican voter apathy.
There are a lot of people in red districts receiving medicaid and ACA healthcare subsidies right now that their congressmen have voted to take away.
A lot of women in those districts who quietly use planned parenthood services for health checks and birth control that their Congressmen are taking away.
And no policy is going to bring back coal mining and manufacturing jobs that the free market is replacing with other sources and technology.
Republican politicians in Washington are not going to do anything to help their small town constituents.
They are mostly mid to low income people. The tax cuts proposed don't help lower income people.
L L wrote:
I think we can sum things up by saying that Republicans keep winning elections despite of (or because of) investigations into Trump.
And Trump still has vocal, loyal supporters.
There is a big geographical divide in the country.
And Republicans are very spread out while Democrats are concentrated in fewer areas but probably outnumber Republicans on the whole.
I don't see liberals moving out the countryside any time soon.
What has to happen for Democrats is - Republicans gain power, make bad policy decisions and create Republican voter apathy.
There are a lot of people in red districts receiving medicaid and ACA healthcare subsidies right now that their congressmen have voted to take away.
A lot of women in those districts who quietly use planned parenthood services for health checks and birth control that their Congressmen are taking away.
And no policy is going to bring back coal mining and manufacturing jobs that the free market is replacing with other sources and technology.
Republican politicians in Washington are not going to do anything to help their small town constituents.
They are mostly mid to low income people. The tax cuts proposed don't help lower income people.
You might be misinterpreting the results of the special elections. Dems are coming within a few points of winning in red districts. Dem candidates are doing wildly better than they 'should' be doing given the makup of these districts.
To flip the House the Dems don't have to do anything but maintain this momentum. If they get the same 5-10 pts of outperformance, paint the House blue.
(but first they should make sure Pelosi retires)
I'm not misrepresenting results.
The results are that the democrats lost those elections. Momentum doesn't give you seats and it can change.
They get to try again in a year and a half.
Most districts will not flip on either side.
There are a handful of swing districts that could flip.
The news cycle moves so fast that I don't believe any momentum can sustain for 18 months.
News in October 2018 is what matters.
I have no idea if the House can flip in 2018. Maybe.
Pretty sure the Senate won't flip since there are mostly Democrat seats up for election.
What I am concerned with right now is what legislation they can pass and how unified are they on anything significant.
Republicans are not going to try and disarm nor enslave their constituents. Therefore, they will continue to beat the 💩 out of libbbtwats every election a libbbtwat runs on the disarm and enslave platform.
I do love how you libbbtwats continually live in denial and lose elections as a result.ðŸ‘
Keep it up libbbtwats, your extinction is near😎🇺🇸
EPIC Flagpole wrote:
LOL!! You're such a silly, silly man.
HI MAHLMO!!! Your a foolish, small-minded, troll.
1) The Lifeline program (the one created under Reagan) was expanded to add coverage of cell phones in 2008 before Obama even took office. Doesn't matter that there weren't cell phones in 1984...it has to do with providing phone service to those who are low income. Obama didn't create this program. The name "Obama phone" came about because of the timing of everything, but Obama had nothing to do with it.2) I never said the country was racist.3) Accounts ARE that Trump is having a miserable time as president. Dispute that if you like, but those ARE the reports. Could those reports be wrong? Sure.4) Again, why do you Trump defenders like to bring up Hillary and Obama and any other Democrat when defending Trump? It wouldn't matter if Hillary were convicted of murder and actually be in prison. That fact wouldn't make Trump any better. He has a long history of cheating contractors who do work for him, a long history of bad business dealings with US banks (to the point they won't do business with him anymore). His Trump Foundation has been shown to be a fraud, and the state of New York won't allow it to operate as a charity. Trump University was shown to be a fraud. His casinos were money launderers, and Trump had to pay big fines because of that. Criminal activity is what that is. This only scratches the surface of what Trump has done, and I don't have time to list them all out for you. Don't waste your time listing a bunch of Obama shady things. It doesn't matter at this point as I have already explained, and nothing he has done is anywhere close to as bad as Trump. If you make a list, I will not read it...just not interested.5) If you want to defend typical Republican planks or even a need for a different way of thinking about politics, then fine, but to defend Donald Trump in any way is to defend an amoral person and by far the worst person who has been the President of the United States. This is not an attack on conservative values or a defending of Democrats. Democrats have failed the working class, something I was saying even before Trump became a serious candidate. When Bernie Sanders goes on and on about free college, that doesn't help the working class. Not everyone has the ability to go to college.6) Trump has not delivered on any of his big promises from the campaign trail, mostly because he had no idea about the things he talked about and the fact that he wouldn't be elected King. "Big beautiful wall" won't happen. He can't get a travel ban because of his rhetoric. Why isn't Hillary locked up? Where is his toughness with China? He said the world would respect the US more. Well, first of all, he shouldn't care as he is not a Globalist, and second of all, the world has never laughed at the US like it is now.7) Again (I say this again because it is important), there is value in Conservative views, and they are needed to balance SOME liberal views that can go too far (a strong Republican Party and a strong Democrat Party is preferred rather than having one that is overpowering the other). Trump though is not a conservative even though he tries to play like he is one. You Republicans would do well to divorce yourself from him and maybe even play up the fact that he was a Democrat and friends with the Clintons for years. He is a bad guy and should not be anyone's champion.
Wagererer wrote:
No, it's not a misnomer at all. He wanted to take credit for it you bonehead and we didn't have cell phones in 1984 like we did when Obama became President. Ya can't have it both ways, he wanted to steal from Reagan, Bush and Clinton, so he called it Obama Phones and was proud.
Stay with me poleflag. If the country were truly racist, there could never be a black president as the majority of whites would vote for anyone white. Did I lose ya there? Yet, over 90% of blacks voted for Obama, so who's racist?
Hillary was a crooked as they come, but you voted for her. All accounts on Trump are not miserable, only your jealous accounts because you were proven wrong.
List the shady things that Trump did. Afterwards, I'll give you Obama's list.
Man you are not only a sore loser and biased, you're not that bright. As for you money, he who yells the loudest:):):):):):):):):):)
Flagpole wrote:1) Handel's win was good for Republicans and bad for Democrats.
2) I do not wager.
3) Not clear yet that Trump hasn't done anything worse than Clinton or Obama. I would argue that Obama never did anything shady compared to Trump, but I will not defend Clinton. Also, matters not what anyone before Trump did. It only matters what he is doing now because he is the President. Shady at best so far, and it appears that no one on his staff can talk him out of shooting himself in the foot, so we will see what happens. There is no doubt that Trump has less character and integrity by far of any President ever. "Two Corinthians" should tell you he's a phony...because he is.
4) Obama Phone is a misnomer as it was a program started in 1984 under REAGAN. But, even in your fantasy Obama Phone world, no, I did not have to turn in a phone. I am debt free, including owning my own home outright, and I make WAY too much money to qualify for such a program.
5) Trump very well might not go anywhere. We shall see. Today was a good day for him. He is crooked though and you should want him gone as soon as possible. I can wait. All accounts are that he is miserable in his job as President, so I can hang my hat on that for now.
L L wrote:
I'm not misrepresenting results.
The results are that the democrats lost those elections. Momentum doesn't give you seats and it can change.
They get to try again in a year and a half.
Most districts will not flip on either side.
There are a handful of swing districts that could flip.
The news cycle moves so fast that I don't believe any momentum can sustain for 18 months.
News in October 2018 is what matters.
I have no idea if the House can flip in 2018. Maybe.
Pretty sure the Senate won't flip since there are mostly Democrat seats up for election.
What I am concerned with right now is what legislation they can pass and how unified are they on anything significant.
it's more than a handful. If dems continue to outperform like this, 30-40 seats will switch to blue.
EPIC Flagpole wrote:
Well you've proven to be pretty poor with numbers in the past (candidate debate thread), so we shouldn't be surprised here. But if you look at the national polls, they were not what most would call "accurate." They were somewhat "precise", and "more accurate than state polls", but truly not accurate by any means.
You had 10 of 11 polls showing Clinton winning. Of those 10, only 1 was at +2. And just 2 were at +3. 6 were at +4. And one was at +6.
So across those 10 polls, the average was 3.8.
The one IBD outlier comes in and shows Trump at +2. So that brings the average down to the 3.3.
3.3 is off of the actual result of 2.1 by a factor of 1.57 (or "57% larger than 2.1"). That is not at all "cold clear accuracy." The bulk of the results (the "+4") were off the actual outcome by a factor of 2. That is not good. It's better than being 5 or more off like many of the state polls, but it's truly not accurate by any definition of the word.
Wow, are you really that stupid? Or is that just some sort of act?
So, if the actual margin had been 0.1% while the polls had shown a 0.5% margin in the same direction then by your reasoning the polls would have been off of the actual result of 0.1 by a factor of 5.00 (or "400% larger than 0.1")!!! Holy smokes, that would have been worthless polling, no?
Can you really be that stupid? Is it even possible? Do they really make people who apparently have a negative IQ?