Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

over and done wrote:

agip wrote:

Ok so our choices:

Biden: Doddering but hires great people and gets the job done well, with zero scandal or ethics issues Country is flourishing.

Trump: Felon many times over, one of the least ethical people on earth, vigorous in his pursuit of autocracy and the destruction of the Constitution. Makes up facts as he goes and has zero shame. Responsible for the first non-peaceful transfer of power in US history and he has promised more. Responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans who didn't have to die from covid.

X factor: Dems get Newsom or Shapiro or Harris and throw a Hail Mary at the convention.

I dunno. Nothing good here. The country would be fine with another 4 years of Joe but he doesn't seem electable.

I'm a Dem, but I have thought all along that if Biden really cared about the party or the country he would do the right thing and step aside. These elderly leaders trying to hang on to power when they have lost much of their mental capacity is disgusting. I'm talking about Biden, Trump, McConnell, Feinstein, Pelosi, etc. And I'm in my 70s.

But I've given up hope. Trump will win unless something happens to him, but hopefully in 4 years we can start over with new leadership and a clean slate.

Reality Czech wrote:

You people overreact much?

You people who are saying Biden needs to step down or drop out of the race are idiots. And I’m specifically talking to Dems. He had one bad night and you guys are saying he’s suddenly lost it. He just had one of the best SOTU addresses in history. If you watched his rally in NC yesterday, he knocked it out of the park. His other campaign stops have been great. He had a cold and had a bad night. Have you guys who actually run (probably none of you) ever had a bad race when sick?

Im going to go back and repost some of the drivel from the past couple days just to embarrass you. And when he wipes the floor with Trump at the next debate and crushes him in November, remember who talked you off the ledge.

YersiniaPestis wrote:

Real Obvi wrote:

Yes and no.

1) Biden lost the election last night. It's over.

2) It would great if Biden would step aside. Would have have been MUCH better if he had stepped aside before the primaries started.

3) But the thing that many people forget is that the image that you have for Biden (or Trump or McConnell or Feinstein . . . ) is not the image that they have of themselves. For some of them (and I think Biden is one) it is not a question of "trying to hang on to power". They truly believe that they are the right person for the job even when anyone on the outside can see that they should hang 'em up. In these cases, I don't think it is really disgusting. More like sad and pathetic.

Like taking the car keys from your grandpa.. at some point YOU have to be the one to keep him from hurting himself or others. This applies to Biden.

Reality Czech wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Hmm. Well, that wasn't good. Biden still wins on substance and ethics, but that's likely not enough. I have said that Trump loses unless Biden is dead or infirmed, and I think he's crossed the line to infirmed. He was not that way for the State of the Union, so this is a relatively new development despite what Trumpers say. BUT, he has crossed a line.

Crossed the line to infirmed? This has got to be the most ill-informed, idiotic posts of them all. The guy has one bad night and suddenly you think he’s infirmed. Between the SOTU(which you mention) and now, he has gone from giving one of the greatest SOTU ever, kicking a$ on the campaign trail with vigor and energy to infirmed. Complete and utter garbage. You should not be allowed to post here or at least have someone proofread your drivel first. Did you see his NC rally yesterday? Infirmed, my a$.

over and done wrote:

Real Obvi wrote:

Yes and no.

1) Biden lost the election last night. It's over.

2) It would great if Biden would step aside. Would have have been MUCH better if he had stepped aside before the primaries started.

3) But the thing that many people forget is that the image that you have for Biden (or Trump or McConnell or Feinstein . . . ) is not the image that they have of themselves. For some of them (and I think Biden is one) it is not a question of "trying to hang on to power". They truly believe that they are the right person for the job even when anyone on the outside can see that they should hang 'em up. In these cases, I don't think it is really disgusting. More like sad and pathetic.

You have just described a scenario similar to someone who has had too much too drink. Everyone else can see them slurring their words and stumbling when they walk but they think they are fine to drive.

But if people care about them and the safety of others - or the safety of the country - they take the keys. It's time for the powers that be in the Dem Party to stop circling the wagons and protecting Biden and take the keys away. Yes, there will be a hue and cry, but the security and welfare of the country is at stake.

What's really sobering is that it's at stake if either candidate wins. How did we get here?

over and done wrote:

Reality Czech wrote:

You people overreact much?

You people who are saying Biden needs to step down or drop out of the race are idiots. And I’m specifically talking to Dems. He had one bad night and you guys are saying he’s suddenly lost it. He just had one of the best SOTU addresses in history. If you watched his rally in NC yesterday, he knocked it out of the park. His other campaign stops have been great. He had a cold and had a bad night. Have you guys who actually run (probably none of you) ever had a bad race when sick?

Im going to go back and repost some of the drivel from the past couple days just to embarrass you. And when he wipes the floor with Trump at the next debate and crushes him in November, remember who talked you off the ledge.

I will be happy if you are right. But the effects of aging cannot be reversed. He had a really bad night, but it will happen more and more frequently over the next 4 years. That's just the reality. Do you know anyone in their 80s? He is 81 now and would be 86 at the end of his next term. I'm sorry, but that's too old for the most demanding job in the world. Trump is too old as well.