agip wrote:
I swear to whatever deity you worship the Rs are actively trying to get all people under the age of 40 to vote for Democrats.
The trump party is insanely suicidal on environmental issues. Despite virtually all young people wanting the government to lead on saving the planet, the Trump party wants to actively burn more fossil fuels, believes climate change is a Chinese hoax and now is weakening the endangered species act.
Keep at it, trump party. You will lose very very badly and alienate millions.
WASHINGTON — The Trump administration on Monday announced that it would change the way the Endangered Species Act is applied, significantly weakening the nation’s bedrock conservation law credited with rescuing the bald eagle, the grizzly bear and the American alligator from extinction.
The changes could clear the way for new mining, oil and gas drilling, and development in areas where protected species live. The new rules will make it harder to consider the effects of climate change on wildlife when deciding whether a given species warrants protection. They would most likely shrink critical habitats and, for the first time, allow economic factors to be taken into account when making determinations.
This is all true, but the top Democratic candidates are not treating climate change as a top issue. Nobody is really highlighting the unspeakable damage that Tiny is doing. Unless people hear about it, it won't become a motivator for the electorate.
The Democrats are doing a town hall on climate change September. We will see if that changes the conversation.
Trump is vain, as everyone knows. But his vanity in taking the Lord's name in vain is backfiring, bigly. When will Trump tweet to claim he never said G-D on video? How many Evangelicals will accept his tweet as reality, and the video proof as fake?
Evangelicals chafe at Trump’s blasphemy
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/trump-evangelicals-blasphemy-profanity-1456178
Trump is destroying the Republican Party
Oops, G-D Evangelicals planning to sit 2020 out wrote:
Trump is vain, as everyone knows. But his vanity in taking the Lord's name in vain is backfiring, bigly. When will Trump tweet to claim he never said G-D on video? How many Evangelicals will accept his tweet as reality, and the video proof as fake?
Evangelicals chafe at Trump’s blasphemy
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/trump-evangelicals-blasphemy-profanity-1456178
so....the lying, cheating, rape accusations, bragging of sexual assault, light treason, threats of violence, obstruction of justice, three marriages, infidelity, premarital sex, bullying and gluttony don't bother the evangelical set.
but saying 'g-d' does bother them.
ha. I'll believe it when it sticks. It won't stick.
Cursing is fine as long as you own the libs.
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Devout Jews do not eat pork.
Devout Christians do not say GD.
There is no sarcasm in my post.
adding 'devout' or 'orthodox' or 'fundamentalist' might make your post have something to it. But come on. We live in this world not the next one. hundreds of millions of people around the world consider themselves Christian and don't take very seriously the 'g-d' rule. They'd laugh at you if you said they were officially kicked out of the religion by uttering that word.
And don't get me started on the selectivity of Christians and Jews. They have decided to pick a few laws and follow them while totally ignoring other biblical laws.
If you want to discuss why modern Christian practice is the way it is, I'm happy to discuss it.
There is no devout Christian who says GD. They just don't. Anyone who says it is almost certainly not a practicing Christian.
And nobody gets "kicked out". Very few non-Catholic denominations practice excommunication. And even then, it's rarely imposed. I don't know where you get this "kicked out" idea from.
But what is very interesting to me is how Tiny's public utterances of GD could drive down evangelical turnout in 2020. I could see opponents putting ads on Christian radio about it. 80% of white evangelicals voted for Tiny. A good ad strategy based around his lack of Christian values could easily drive that down to 50% or 60%.
Fat hurts wrote:
agip wrote:
come on man...if everyone who says 'g-d' is kicked out of Christianity we'd have no one in the pews.
How can you possibly say 'we never, ever, ever take the Lord's name in vain. We just don't.'
And very few Jews keep kosher.
Maybe you were being sarcastic in some way?
Devout Jews do not eat pork.
Devout Christians do not say GD.
There is no sarcasm in my post.
You profess to be a born again Christian yourself and gladly support a party that kills unborn & sometimes born babies.
agip wrote:
Oops, G-D Evangelicals planning to sit 2020 out wrote:
Trump is vain, as everyone knows. But his vanity in taking the Lord's name in vain is backfiring, bigly. When will Trump tweet to claim he never said G-D on video? How many Evangelicals will accept his tweet as reality, and the video proof as fake?
Evangelicals chafe at Trump’s blasphemy
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/trump-evangelicals-blasphemy-profanity-1456178so....the lying, cheating, rape accusations, bragging of sexual assault, light treason, threats of violence, obstruction of justice, three marriages, infidelity, premarital sex, bullying and gluttony don't bother the evangelical set.
but saying 'g-d' does bother them.
ha. I'll believe it when it sticks. It won't stick.
Cursing is fine as long as you own the libs.
It will stick as long as you promote the videos. A lot of people have their own video of this. There will be no doubt that he said it and that he says it a lot. You just have to make an issue out of it.
Trust me on this. It's something tangible that ties all his other sinful behavior together. Evangelicals bend over backwards to try to forgive. They can tell themselves that surely Tiny is not the same man he was a few years ago. They can tell themselves that maybe he repented or that a lot of the stories are untrue.
But when they see and hear him take the Lord's name in vain so casually and so recently, it strikes a chord. It means he's really not one of them.
All it will take is to get the conversation started in the Christian community. Just do some radio ads, some Facebook ads, and get a few ministers on the bandwagon. If successful, you might even get the Southern Baptist Convention to vote on a resolution about it. At that point, Tiny would be toast.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Devout Jews do not eat pork.
Devout Christians do not say GD.
There is no sarcasm in my post.
You profess to be a born again Christian yourself and gladly support a party that kills unborn & sometimes born babies.
I don't support all the policies of either party. I am staunchly pro-life.
This means that as a Christian, I oppose both abortion and capital punishment.
Overall, the Democratic party does a much better job of reflecting Christian values. But both are deeply flawed.
Flagpole wrote:
Back after a little trip, and just some brief scanning showed more craziness from the Trumpers.
1) Scaramucci now saying that he no longer supports Trump in 2020 is a big deal. Trumpers will try to minimize him, but he was much more than an 11-day White House employee. He has been on the news show circuit a lot since then, and he did a good job presenting a well-measured defense of Trump. Now that is gone.
2) Whenever I take a vacation (and I take a lot of them) someone decides that I'm hiding or some other such noise. Nope, just living my life to the fullest.
3) Trump will NOT WIN in 2020.
4) Trump is going to prison.
5) Any person who is not in elected office who still supports Trump today is either JUST stupid or racist. There are not other possibilities.
Mueller is coming (not Comey as Iggy alluded to, so I guess I haven't mentioned this enough).
The clown is done.
Why do you persist in making ridiculous predictions?
1) Mooch is your new Avenatti. You back another loser.
2) You check this forum everyday, vacation or no vacation, don't kid yourself
3) Flagpolian Flop
4)Another Flagpolian Flop
5) A person with your nonexistent batting average shouldn"t be posting here anymore, except for comedy relief.
6) Mueller never came. He flopped just like you.
7) Clownpole forever
Fat hurts wrote:
But what is very interesting to me is how Tiny's public utterances of GD could drive down evangelical turnout in 2020. I could see opponents putting ads on Christian radio about it. 80% of white evangelicals voted for Tiny. A good ad strategy based around his lack of Christian values could easily drive that down to 50% or 60%.
I suppose that his taking the name in vain might keep a handful of people home, but not many. (And it certainly wouldn't garner any votes *for* the Dem candidate.) An ad campaign highlighting the profanity would doubtless be at least a waste of money, and actually might backfire big time.
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People still aren't getting it: His base, which includes *many* evangelicals, will accept and excuse *anything*--ANYTHING--that he does or says or *is*, because they've decided that he is they: What he does and says and is, is exactly what they would like to do and say and be.
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Take a look at the knots that some Trump apologists on this thread twist themselves into, trying to justify (even to themselves) the decision that they made *years* ago, to vote for him again in 2020. They *cannot* reject him because that would be rejecting *themselves* . . . and humans can't live with that.
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So yeah, a *few* might stay home; but remember that fear and anger are the biggest motivators for voting, and DJT is doing a brilliant job of keeping those pumped up.
Fat hurts wrote:
agip wrote:
so....the lying, cheating, rape accusations, bragging of sexual assault, light treason, threats of violence, obstruction of justice, three marriages, infidelity, premarital sex, bullying and gluttony don't bother the evangelical set.
but saying 'g-d' does bother them.
ha. I'll believe it when it sticks. It won't stick.
Cursing is fine as long as you own the libs.
It will stick as long as you promote the videos. A lot of people have their own video of this. There will be no doubt that he said it and that he says it a lot. You just have to make an issue out of it.
Trust me on this. It's something tangible that ties all his other sinful behavior together. Evangelicals bend over backwards to try to forgive. They can tell themselves that surely Tiny is not the same man he was a few years ago. They can tell themselves that maybe he repented or that a lot of the stories are untrue.
But when they see and hear him take the Lord's name in vain so casually and so recently, it strikes a chord. It means he's really not one of them.
All it will take is to get the conversation started in the Christian community. Just do some radio ads, some Facebook ads, and get a few ministers on the bandwagon. If successful, you might even get the Southern Baptist Convention to vote on a resolution about it. At that point, Tiny would be toast.
from your lips to God's ear, as they say
If the grab em by the P, over a dozen allegations of sexual harassment/assault/rape, bleeding out of wherever, and other such actions and comments didn't bother Evangelicals then GD won't. Blame the sin not the sinner!!
It's all about owning libs, gays, and dead babies.
Alan
it's...not going to be an easy election year for Republicans
https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1160782934787403778?s=20
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Back after a little trip, and just some brief scanning showed more craziness from the Trumpers.
1) Scaramucci now saying that he no longer supports Trump in 2020 is a big deal. Trumpers will try to minimize him, but he was much more than an 11-day White House employee. He has been on the news show circuit a lot since then, and he did a good job presenting a well-measured defense of Trump. Now that is gone.
2) Whenever I take a vacation (and I take a lot of them) someone decides that I'm hiding or some other such noise. Nope, just living my life to the fullest.
3) Trump will NOT WIN in 2020.
4) Trump is going to prison.
5) Any person who is not in elected office who still supports Trump today is either JUST stupid or racist. There are not other possibilities.
Mueller is coming (not Comey as Iggy alluded to, so I guess I haven't mentioned this enough).
The clown is done.
Flagpole,
Good thing you were on vacation. I was a little worried with the Epstein deal. That’s right it is Mueller that is “coming.” Comey was just his bro.
Igy
Igy - you also told us Barr was coming for Comey. Maybe you’ve both got things wrong on occasion?
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Back after a little trip, and just some brief scanning showed more craziness from the Trumpers.
1) Scaramucci now saying that he no longer supports Trump in 2020 is a big deal. Trumpers will try to minimize him, but he was much more than an 11-day White House employee. He has been on the news show circuit a lot since then, and he did a good job presenting a well-measured defense of Trump. Now that is gone.
2) Whenever I take a vacation (and I take a lot of them) someone decides that I'm hiding or some other such noise. Nope, just living my life to the fullest.
3) Trump will NOT WIN in 2020.
4) Trump is going to prison.
5) Any person who is not in elected office who still supports Trump today is either JUST stupid or racist. There are not other possibilities.
Mueller is coming (not Comey as Iggy alluded to, so I guess I haven't mentioned this enough).
The clown is done.
Why do you persist in making ridiculous predictions?
1) Mooch is your new Avenatti. You back another loser.
2) You check this forum everyday, vacation or no vacation, don't kid yourself
3) Flagpolian Flop
4)Another Flagpolian Flop
5) A person with your nonexistent batting average shouldn"t be posting here anymore, except for comedy relief.
6) Mueller never came. He flopped just like you.
7) Clownpole forever
No one on here backed the Mooch more than Trump did, no one. Another appointment Trump got wrong.
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Devout Jews do not eat pork.
Devout Christians do not say GD.
There is no sarcasm in my post.
adding 'devout' or 'orthodox' or 'fundamentalist' might make your post have something to it. But come on. We live in this world not the next one. hundreds of millions of people around the world consider themselves Christian and don't take very seriously the 'g-d' rule. They'd laugh at you if you said they were officially kicked out of the religion by uttering that word.
And don't get me started on the selectivity of Christians and Jews. They have decided to pick a few laws and follow them while totally ignoring other biblical laws.
There are also people who were very liberal Christians (me) and who no longer consider themselves Christians (me) who don say "g-d". I NEVER say that one. I also NEVER say the n-word, and while I've never said the c-word, just due to what it has meant historically in this country, I do recognize that in Australia and New Zealand and some other countries, that it's not quite the same, so there could be a circumstance when I might say that especially if directed at a man. I've also never used the word f*g to refer to a gay person. I think those are the most banned ones by me. There are probably some I'm not aware of that I wouldn't say if I knew about them.
Ciro wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Flagpole,
Good thing you were on vacation. I was a little worried with the Epstein deal. That’s right it is Mueller that is “coming.” Comey was just his bro.
Igy
Igy - you also told us Barr was coming for Comey. Maybe you’ve both got things wrong on occasion?
Yea, I probably said that. Comey’s reputation like Mueller’s has taken a hit. Really bring it up more to balance what is presented here daily.
Runningart2004 wrote:
If the grab em by the P, over a dozen allegations of sexual harassment/assault/rape, bleeding out of wherever, and other such actions and comments didn't bother Evangelicals then GD won't. Blame the sin not the sinner!!
It's all about owning libs, gays, and dead babies.
Alan
He's already flailing...down to 43% approval rate on RCP. Loss of Scaramucci support is big (though not necessary as Trump was going to lose in 2020 anyway). Saying GD WILL make some on the Christian Right (I prefer that to Evangelicals as there are a lot of liberal Evangelicals) not vote for him. He does stuff all the time to lose voters. He's not doing anything that gains voters.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Igy - you also told us Barr was coming for Comey. Maybe you’ve both got things wrong on occasion?
Yea, I probably said that. Comey’s reputation like Mueller’s has taken a hit. Really bring it up more to balance what is presented here daily.
I hear ya, just trying to keep you honest ?