but she just ticks off independents. They loathe her and think she talks down to them.
Independents flip flop based on whatever seems good at the time. Unfortunately I don’t think there’s anyone that could step in and win. Hopefully Biden gets the drugs right from here on out and we can hit em with ads and nursing home votes
Sleepy Joe had that deer in the headlights look, struggled to find words & got confused. He was humiliated on the world stage. His wife is evil and should be charged with elder abuse.
Biden: Doddering but hires great people and gets the job done well, with zero scandal or ethics issues Country is flourishing.
Trump: Felon many times over, one of the least ethical people on earth, vigorous in his pursuit of autocracy and the destruction of the Constitution. Makes up facts as he goes and has zero shame. Responsible for the first non-peaceful transfer of power in US history and he has promised more. Responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans who didn't have to die from covid.
X factor: Dems get Newsom or Shapiro or Harris and throw a Hail Mary at the convention.
I dunno. Nothing good here. The country would be fine with another 4 years of Joe but he doesn't seem electable.
I'm a Dem, but I have thought all along that if Biden really cared about the party or the country he would do the right thing and step aside. These elderly leaders trying to hang on to power when they have lost much of their mental capacity is disgusting. I'm talking about Biden, Trump, McConnell, Feinstein, Pelosi, etc. And I'm in my 70s.
But I've given up hope. Trump will win unless something happens to him, but hopefully in 4 years we can start over with new leadership and a clean slate.
MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell criticized CNN’s “breathtakingly absurd” rules for its debate between President Joe Biden and former President Donald ...
What the heck happened to Ginamator, Flagpole, Trevor, Rinaldo et Al. They all went AWOL. Avip is only Lib with cajones to show face around here. All cowards. Kudos to Agip.
President Joe Biden froze-up during the first 15 minutes of the 2024 presidential debate before being bailed out by CNN moderator Jake Tapper. The debat...
What the heck happened to Ginamator, Flagpole, Trevor, Rinaldo et Al. They all went AWOL. Avip is only Lib with cajones to show face around here. All cowards. Kudos to Agip.
I agree. Agip showed. Kudos. The time for barbs is over. He stepped up and faced the music. Credit due.
What the heck happened to Ginamator, Flagpole, Trevor, Rinaldo et Al. They all went AWOL. Avip is only Lib with cajones to show face around here. All cowards. Kudos to Agip.
I agree. Agip showed. Kudos. The time for barbs is over. He stepped up and faced the music. Credit due.
Biden: Doddering but hires great people and gets the job done well, with zero scandal or ethics issues Country is flourishing.
Trump: Felon many times over, one of the least ethical people on earth, vigorous in his pursuit of autocracy and the destruction of the Constitution. Makes up facts as he goes and has zero shame. Responsible for the first non-peaceful transfer of power in US history and he has promised more. Responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans who didn't have to die from covid.
X factor: Dems get Newsom or Shapiro or Harris and throw a Hail Mary at the convention.
I dunno. Nothing good here. The country would be fine with another 4 years of Joe but he doesn't seem electable.
I'm a Dem, but I have thought all along that if Biden really cared about the party or the country he would do the right thing and step aside.
Do the Dem voters have any say in who their candidate is?
sure would be nice to have someone like Newsom who could fight back against trump. Joe was completely ineffective against trump. Trump lied from the start to the end but Joe couldn't counter any of it, effectively.
newsom is smart and quick and likes to argue. And has a basic sense of fun around him.
Not sure how you push Harris aside...I suppose she'd have to stay as veep nominee.
sure would be nice to have someone like Newsom who could fight back against trump. Joe was completely ineffective against trump. Trump lied from the start to the end but Joe couldn't counter any of it, effectively.
newsom is smart and quick and likes to argue. And has a basic sense of fun around him.
Not sure how you push Harris aside...I suppose she'd have to stay as veep nominee.
Harris would need to execute the 25th Amendment, which is unlikely considering she came out in strong defense of Joe after the debate.
Dems could broker the convention but dealing with fire if they anoint someone besides Kamala.
Joe isn't agile enough to call Trump out. And it would have been very easy. Trump says "hundreds of thousands" of people have died at the border during Biden's presidency. That would be like 1,000 people a day minimum. So untrue and easily parried. But Joe just isn't quick on his feet anymore.
OK. I didn't watch a minute of the debate except for John's Stewart's recap this morning. I had a previous obligation. What happened?
Looks like Biden crapped the bed. Looks like Trump's outlandish lies overwhelmed everyone and went unchallenged. Looks like CNN did a terrible job with zero rebuttal.
Joe isn't agile enough to call Trump out. And it would have been very easy. Trump says "hundreds of thousands" of people have died at the border during Biden's presidency. That would be like 1,000 people a day minimum. So untrue and easily parried. But Joe just isn't quick on his feet anymore.
What the heck happened to Ginamator, Flagpole, Trevor, Rinaldo et Al. They all went AWOL. Avip is only Lib with cajones to show face around here. All cowards. Kudos to Agip.
Unfortunately I was on a flight and couldn't watch live. Really bad performance for Biden and his age certainly showed.
1. The idea that he will be replaced is still insane unless they make up a sudden illness like a heart condition. If Trump humpers have any brain cells left they will hope it's Biden because Newson is on a whole other level of energy and wit than Trump.
2. Ds need to use this opportunity to fully unite because it's still theirs to lose. A total of zero Trump humpers were ever going to vote for Biden anyway, so they don't matter. It's the rest that needs to be convinced that Biden can still do the job and/or that Trump is just too dangerous for the country so go with the "senile" guy.
3. The bar is now probably as low as it will ever get in this campaign for Biden. Any improvement in his energy level in the next debate will go far.
4. Trump lucked out with Biden's showing, but he was as bad as he could be in a debate. He never answered any questions directly, lied openly throughout, and simply didn't bring anything to the table to woo potential voters.
5. Trump gets a bump up here but his ceiling is going to remain low. The choice is between a reckless clown who is looking out for himself and vowed to break down what's left of our democracy, and the deteriorating Biden who has by all substantive measures done an excellent job over the last four years and who for his whole career has respected democracy.
6. Looking ahead, Ds need all the big guns campaigning with Biden aggressively across the country and on TV reminding voters what is at stake and that they are the only ones holding the gate.
Joe isn't agile enough to call Trump out. And it would have been very easy. Trump says "hundreds of thousands" of people have died at the border during Biden's presidency. That would be like 1,000 people a day minimum. So untrue and easily parried. But Joe just isn't quick on his feet anymore.
Hi Ginamator! Incognito today?
Ha no I'm here. I told you I never post under other names. You clowns can run your victory lap for now.
OK. I didn't watch a minute of the debate except for John's Stewart's recap this morning. I had a previous obligation. What happened?
Looks like Biden crapped the bed. Looks like Trump's outlandish lies overwhelmed everyone and went unchallenged. Looks like CNN did a terrible job with zero rebuttal.
The format didn't help Biden's weak showing. In substance there was never a competition, but nobody was expecting Trump to have anything to say anyway so that didn't help Biden much. Zero fact checking from CNN didn't help either.
