Tim Grose’s "Running Influencers Round-Up" video isn’t just a video...
I guess this makes a change from you "waxing lyrical" about Bester. The difference is, for the most part, people her enjoy Tim's videos, whereas they enjoy Besters equally as much as they enjoy yours.
Enjoyed the video as always Tim, but I did raise an eyebrow with you saying that Matt Rees had had a consistent build up - from his strava he seemed to be bottling every other session or long run?
And sure maybe it was the lack of long runs as he's claimed in his video, or maybe its that he blows himself to bits every 3-6 months and takes extended time off? Tenner says he'll have multiple 0 mile weeks between now and Valencia, and the same before London, and the same before Berlin next year.
5 x mile w/1/2 mile float (5:25, 5:19, 5:24, 5:24, 5:26) *puke right before 2nd mile*
1.5 down @ 6:58/mi
Best long run workout. Only 1:50 of stop time for pee, puke, and water refill"
Let's normalise puking during a workout shall we? Totally fine and nothing to be concerned about
I don't understand this workout at all. Especially 2 weeks out. 2:26 pace? Was he meant to run 2:30 pace but went too fast? I don't think even 2:26 pace should make you want to vomit. Especially with HR 85% of max (if you believe his max is 190 as he has stated)
It's a weird one. The only way it makes sense to me is if he's in 2:26 shape. Maybe 2:27. But even that doesn't make sense because the floats should be 6:15-6:45 or so. 7:00 at the absolute slowest. I wonder if he had a 6:45 pace target for all of the floats and he hit it on the first one (6:43), but faded on the rest (7:10, 6:56, 7:36, 7:42, 8:04). I think the slow floats reveal the truth. He might be more aerobically fit but his legs are dead. Doing this 2 weeks out instead of 3 didn't help.
Gotta hit 5:25 pace even if the floats become jogs in NO:TIME
Floberg, this training is absolutely perfect for baiting you into a huge positive split. Run the first half at 5:50 pace!! Negative split for the 2:30. Go sub 2:30 another day.
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Ah thanks - that was too obvious - I was looking under his real name of Tim Stent !
Anyway he supposedly runs a ridiculous 15 miles per week yet can still "win" parkruns. Unbelievable. I may have to do a comment video on sand baggers :)
Re Matt recall hearing saying himself that the training block went fairly well and indeed he did not have any "zero" weeks. When did the analysis it was clear to run a PB in those conditions either meant you like hot weather and/or could have run several minutes quicker. Of runners who ran faster than him
go back and look at some of his easy runs from last year, the pace and HR is very similar.
I honestly think he is basing his fitness from easy runs on an uncalibrated treadmill
From Floberg's Strava
"23 mile workout early tomorrow [Saturday 27th Sept]".
For context Chicago is on Sunday 12th Oct., so for most people it is already the start of the taper.
Either his coach has given him this session, in which case WTF?
Or Floberg has decided tapers are for mere mortals and he can keep smashing himself into the ground right up until race day. In which case WTF?
This is definitely a prescribed workout from his coach. Other online sensations who are being coached by the same guy (Bat City TC guy, Jeff Cunningham) as part of the “BPN community” also had a super hard Saturday long run two weeks out from Chicago. Caitlyn Miller is another one who posted her workout all over her IG.
I’m super interested to see how many of them actually recover properly these next two weeks from it or if they just run on heavy/beat up legs on race day.
I do agree that it would probably have been a great workout 3 weeks out instead of 2 though.
"23 mile workout early tomorrow [Saturday 27th Sept]".
For context Chicago is on Sunday 12th Oct., so for most people it is already the start of the taper.
Either his coach has given him this session, in which case WTF?
Or Floberg has decided tapers are for mere mortals and he can keep smashing himself into the ground right up until race day. In which case WTF?
This is definitely a prescribed workout from his coach. Other online sensations who are being coached by the same guy (Bat City TC guy, Jeff Cunningham) as part of the “BPN community” also had a super hard Saturday long run two weeks out from Chicago. Caitlyn Miller is another one who posted her workout all over her IG.
I’m super interested to see how many of them actually recover properly these next two weeks from it or if they just run on heavy/beat up legs on race day.
I do agree that it would probably have been a great workout 3 weeks out instead of 2 though.
I'm sure the BPN "crew" who partake in the "secret sauce" will be fine for Chicago. It's people like Floberg who is probably naive to think the BPN crew are all clean that fall by the wayside. I'm sure after failing with Jeff as his coach AGAIN, there'll be a call and Jeff says "Man, in better conditions, on a flat course that's a 2:20 all day"
5 x mile w/1/2 mile float (5:25, 5:19, 5:24, 5:24, 5:26) *puke right before 2nd mile*
1.5 down @ 6:58/mi
Best long run workout. Only 1:50 of stop time for pee, puke, and water refill"
Let's normalise puking during a workout shall we? Totally fine and nothing to be concerned about
I don't understand this workout at all. Especially 2 weeks out. 2:26 pace? Was he meant to run 2:30 pace but went too fast? I don't think even 2:26 pace should make you want to vomit. Especially with HR 85% of max (if you believe his max is 190 as he has stated)
Just for clout so his followers hype him up. Guy is an egomaniac, he’s now wearing a speedsuit like he’s going for Olympic gold
this is what it is, really. you nailed it. he has become a running obsessed egomaniac and probably has a mental disorder. he won't admit it, he'll deny it, but this is what it is. the dude is an artistic guy at heart who enjoys running but has made it his identity despite him telling the camera and his fans his family comes first and he's well rounded and loving life. he's probably happy but there's something not right with how much of a production he makes his running his life on the internet at this point. he laughs it off, calls himself a narcissist to make it ok and to shut down the haters, and just continues to grow more insufferable. very scared for the guy's long term health in all honesty. he tells himself he has gotten a 'core' memory with his children or a average joe running buddy everyday, and he cannot stop posting his shirtless abs and patronizing his stay at home/homeschool wife about running. what a life this guy must lead lmao. he's in denial to some degree and will never admit it. but we all have our demons.
all that aside (which are really the more important considerations to the guy's stupid internet persona, well being, and actual family), i honestly i think he has a chance at 2:30 (sadly) lol if we're looking towards his upcoming performance. i can pretty much do all the training he does, workouts and long runs - probably a bit stronger than him aerobically and have a better half PR, and i went 2:31:15 in a less than ideal conditions 'thon last month. the guy is running 90+ mile weeks and while his training is not optimized at all, i think his general fitness is there for the 2:30:XX time - really just depends on the day. running a 23 mile LR workout 2 weeks out seems stupid, i truly don't know why you wouldn't do that 3 weeks out. the timing is dumb but he still did it, the effort is in, and he'll 'recover' enough in 14 days from it. just wasn't ideal and more time out would've been much smarter. all but he trains like a moron and his persona has just become disgusting and pathetic - really just laughable. he has a cultlike following of grown men who cant stop sucking him off on strava. it's really weird and i don't think im ever going to understand who these people are that write the things they do on his videos and strava runs. i think it's all gone to his head and he's really just said screw the haters and is feeding off the fandom of all the random blokes who can't stop glazing him in comments. i really don't know if i'm more scared for floberg himself, his family, or the people out there who are his fans. but i will pray for all of them to find help LOL
Just for clout so his followers hype him up. Guy is an egomaniac, he’s now wearing a speedsuit like he’s going for Olympic gold
this is what it is, really. you nailed it. he has become a running obsessed egomaniac and probably has a mental disorder. he won't admit it, he'll deny it, but this is what it is. the dude is an artistic guy at heart who enjoys running but has made it his identity despite him telling the camera and his fans his family comes first and he's well rounded and loving life. he's probably happy but there's something not right with how much of a production he makes his running his life on the internet at this point. he laughs it off, calls himself a narcissist to make it ok and to shut down the haters, and just continues to grow more insufferable. very scared for the guy's long term health in all honesty. he tells himself he has gotten a 'core' memory with his children or a average joe running buddy everyday, and he cannot stop posting his shirtless abs and patronizing his stay at home/homeschool wife about running. what a life this guy must lead lmao. he's in denial to some degree and will never admit it. but we all have our demons.
all that aside (which are really the more important considerations to the guy's stupid internet persona, well being, and actual family), i honestly i think he has a chance at 2:30 (sadly) lol if we're looking towards his upcoming performance. i can pretty much do all the training he does, workouts and long runs - probably a bit stronger than him aerobically and have a better half PR, and i went 2:31:15 in a less than ideal conditions 'thon last month. the guy is running 90+ mile weeks and while his training is not optimized at all, i think his general fitness is there for the 2:30:XX time - really just depends on the day. running a 23 mile LR workout 2 weeks out seems stupid, i truly don't know why you wouldn't do that 3 weeks out. the timing is dumb but he still did it, the effort is in, and he'll 'recover' enough in 14 days from it. just wasn't ideal and more time out would've been much smarter. all but he trains like a moron and his persona has just become disgusting and pathetic - really just laughable. he has a cultlike following of grown men who cant stop sucking him off on strava. it's really weird and i don't think im ever going to understand who these people are that write the things they do on his videos and strava runs. i think it's all gone to his head and he's really just said screw the haters and is feeding off the fandom of all the random blokes who can't stop glazing him in comments. i really don't know if i'm more scared for floberg himself, his family, or the people out there who are his fans. but i will pray for all of them to find help LOL
Yeah, not reading all that. From a quick skim it seems you have an unhealthy obsession with the guy and should seek help.
Anyway, impressive runs at Vitality 10k today for both Bester & Felton. Both getting PBs, both getting close to that magic sub 30 time. This thread has been saying for months that training is terrible/stupid and they don’t know what they are doing… wonder how many who read/contribute here have actually come closer to that sort of time..
this is what it is, really. you nailed it. he has become a running obsessed egomaniac and probably has a mental disorder. he won't admit it, he'll deny it, but this is what it is. the dude is an artistic guy at heart who enjoys running but has made it his identity despite him telling the camera and his fans his family comes first and he's well rounded and loving life. he's probably happy but there's something not right with how much of a production he makes his running his life on the internet at this point. he laughs it off, calls himself a narcissist to make it ok and to shut down the haters, and just continues to grow more insufferable. very scared for the guy's long term health in all honesty. he tells himself he has gotten a 'core' memory with his children or a average joe running buddy everyday, and he cannot stop posting his shirtless abs and patronizing his stay at home/homeschool wife about running. what a life this guy must lead lmao. he's in denial to some degree and will never admit it. but we all have our demons.
all that aside (which are really the more important considerations to the guy's stupid internet persona, well being, and actual family), i honestly i think he has a chance at 2:30 (sadly) lol if we're looking towards his upcoming performance. i can pretty much do all the training he does, workouts and long runs - probably a bit stronger than him aerobically and have a better half PR, and i went 2:31:15 in a less than ideal conditions 'thon last month. the guy is running 90+ mile weeks and while his training is not optimized at all, i think his general fitness is there for the 2:30:XX time - really just depends on the day. running a 23 mile LR workout 2 weeks out seems stupid, i truly don't know why you wouldn't do that 3 weeks out. the timing is dumb but he still did it, the effort is in, and he'll 'recover' enough in 14 days from it. just wasn't ideal and more time out would've been much smarter. all but he trains like a moron and his persona has just become disgusting and pathetic - really just laughable. he has a cultlike following of grown men who cant stop sucking him off on strava. it's really weird and i don't think im ever going to understand who these people are that write the things they do on his videos and strava runs. i think it's all gone to his head and he's really just said screw the haters and is feeding off the fandom of all the random blokes who can't stop glazing him in comments. i really don't know if i'm more scared for floberg himself, his family, or the people out there who are his fans. but i will pray for all of them to find help LOL
Yeah, not reading all that. From a quick skim it seems you have an unhealthy obsession with the guy and should seek help.
Anyway, impressive runs at Vitality 10k today for both Bester & Felton. Both getting PBs, both getting close to that magic sub 30 time. This thread has been saying for months that training is terrible/stupid and they don’t know what they are doing… wonder how many who read/contribute here have actually come closer to that sort of time..
I was running there too today and can confirm it was also a tricky course and ridiculously hot/humid conditions which makes their time even more impressive.
Besters in particular. The guy is nearly 40, over 6ft and hench. Unreal time by him. No wonder so many people want him as a coach
Yeah, not reading all that. From a quick skim it seems you have an unhealthy obsession with the guy and should seek help.
Anyway, impressive runs at Vitality 10k today for both Bester & Felton. Both getting PBs, both getting close to that magic sub 30 time. This thread has been saying for months that training is terrible/stupid and they don’t know what they are doing… wonder how many who read/contribute here have actually come closer to that sort of time..
I was running there too today and can confirm it was also a tricky course and ridiculously hot/humid conditions which makes their time even more impressive.
Besters in particular. The guy is nearly 40, over 6ft and hench. Unreal time by him. No wonder so many people want him as a coach
Fair play to them both, some cracking times! Not unexpected though considering they live like pro runners.
Regarding Nick Bester, the guy looks absolutely ridiculous in his Strava post. Skin tight pink camo shorts and vest combo with pink Pro 3s and power ranger sunglasses hahahaha. Is this what running has become?
5 x mile w/1/2 mile float (5:25, 5:19, 5:24, 5:24, 5:26) *puke right before 2nd mile*
1.5 down @ 6:58/mi
Best long run workout. Only 1:50 of stop time for pee, puke, and water refill"
Let's normalise puking during a workout shall we? Totally fine and nothing to be concerned about
I don't understand this workout at all. Especially 2 weeks out. 2:26 pace? Was he meant to run 2:30 pace but went too fast? I don't think even 2:26 pace should make you want to vomit. Especially with HR 85% of max (if you believe his max is 190 as he has stated)
Just for clout so his followers hype him up. Guy is an egomaniac, he’s now wearing a speedsuit like he’s going for Olympic gold
Babe, can you stroke my ego and tell me how good i look in the speedsuit? Let's talk about it for 10 mins. i gotta climb a tree after this
5 x mile w/1/2 mile float (5:25, 5:19, 5:24, 5:24, 5:26) *puke right before 2nd mile*
1.5 down @ 6:58/mi
Best long run workout. Only 1:50 of stop time for pee, puke, and water refill"
Let's normalise puking during a workout shall we? Totally fine and nothing to be concerned about
I don't understand this workout at all. Especially 2 weeks out. 2:26 pace? Was he meant to run 2:30 pace but went too fast? I don't think even 2:26 pace should make you want to vomit. Especially with HR 85% of max (if you believe his max is 190 as he has stated)
It's a weird one. The only way it makes sense to me is if he's in 2:26 shape. Maybe 2:27. But even that doesn't make sense because the floats should be 6:15-6:45 or so. 7:00 at the absolute slowest. I wonder if he had a 6:45 pace target for all of the floats and he hit it on the first one (6:43), but faded on the rest (7:10, 6:56, 7:36, 7:42, 8:04). I think the slow floats reveal the truth. He might be more aerobically fit but his legs are dead. Doing this 2 weeks out instead of 3 didn't help.
Gotta hit 5:25 pace even if the floats become jogs in NO:TIME
Floberg, this training is absolutely perfect for baiting you into a huge positive split. Run the first half at 5:50 pace!! Negative split for the 2:30. Go sub 2:30 another day.
Yeah I'd say that's the workout of someone who's probably going to run over 2:30. Depends on the consistency of weekly mileage and other workouts of course (as well as weather and hills on the day).
Yeah I'd say that's the workout of someone who's probably going to run over 2:30. Depends on the consistency of weekly mileage and other workouts of course (as well as weather and hills on the day).
And on the length of the queue at the porta-potties at mile 12.
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