Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Down 850 wrote:
DJIA down 850 now.
The DOW has recovered all of Monday's drop and then some. Average folks are making money and this enrages all the shitlibs here.
How you like dem apples?
Trump wins again.
KAG2020
I you sold your stock the day before a Trump tweet about tariffs and then bought the day after the tweet and repeated that over and over, you can get rich pretty quick.
Trump manipulates the markets with his tweets and surely lets friend know ahead of time.
semsurr wrote:
This Manly Man wrote:
What Trumpettes have in common is that they are all victims in their own minds. Every single one of them is a victim.
lol which is why it's Trump supporters who are the ones constantly calling the other side "racist" and kicking and screaming about the latest 'Orange Man Bad' shenanigans and declaring bigotry and sexist and xenophobia... OH WAIT
liberal projection is amazing
You're a victim of "the ones constantly calling the other side 'racist' and kicking and screaming about the latest 'Orange Man Bad' shenanigans and declaring bigotry and sexist and xenophobia", are you not?
From Ke2Key wrote:
Just Curiouss wrote:
Just curious (no political motive behind question) - What is so dangerous in central Florida?
That shot guns would point out at him from mobile home windows as he ran by. Pete posted a comment about this on his Instagram account.
Thanks
:-)
Neva Mind wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
The DOW has recovered all of Monday's drop and then some. Average folks are making money and this enrages all the shitlibs here.
How you like dem apples?
Trump wins again.
If you just invested a month ago sure, not good. Long term, we just dipped from all-time highs. You libs are quick to point out a big drop on a particular day, then never say a word when an index recovers days later.
Thanks for playing
KAG2020
The DOW is STILL DOWN 900 points since a week ago (27,200 v 26,300). Cherry pick much?
Racket wrote:
This Manly Man wrote:
Agreed
I pointed that out like 1000 pages ago and Flagpole declared those people to be stupid regardless.
You are 1000 pages ahead of me.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Down 850 wrote:
DJIA down 850 now.
The DOW has recovered all of Monday's drop and then some. Average folks are making money and this enrages all the shitlibs here.
How you like dem apples?
Trump wins again.
KAG2020
Trump isn’t even keeping up with Obama and Obama didn’t borrow his stock market performance by borrowing trillions from future generations:
https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-presidentJust Curiouss wrote:
From Ke2Key wrote:
That shot guns would point out at him from mobile home windows as he ran by. Pete posted a comment about this on his Instagram account.
Thanks
:-)
Just curious. Hard to believe ultrarunners lately, we found many cheaters over the years. Just saying...
Ultra run legit or not wrote:
Just curious. Hard to believe ultrarunners lately, we found many cheaters over the years. Just saying...
You wouldn't have been able to keep up with Pete for even 1/2 of his typical run, which was a 54 mile average over the nearly 100 days of his run. He was joined by a lot of people on the run, and he provided realtime tracking so that anyone could show up whenever and wherever they want.
Now, since you are clueless about ultra distance stay in your local 5k race safe place. Just telling...
Ultra run legit or not wrote:
Just curious. Hard to believe ultrarunners lately, we found many cheaters over the years. Just saying...
Sure, and white males are responsible for most mass murders in the U.S. So hard to believe any white male is not a mass murderer waiting to happen. Just saying...
Left-Right Shift wrote:
poo poo wrote:
Analysis aside, do you think Texas is not shifting to the left?
Texas last voted democrat in 1976. Before 1976 Texas voted blue for president 26 times and red 4 times. Texas is historically a blue voting state.
https://www.270towin.com/states/Texas
The Republican party didn't exist until 1860 and then it was the liberal party while Democrats were conservative and supported by the south.
1964 seems to be a turning point of the south not supporting Democrats.
But they did support Carter in 1976, who was from Georgia.
They went a little for Clinton (from Arkansas) in 1992 and were more solid red in 1996 and that's how it's gone since.
What no one talks about is what happened to Tennessee in 2000.
Everyone talks about Florida giving the election to W Bush.
Gore is from Tennessee.
Tennessee voted for Clinton in 1992 and 1996.
But voted for Bush in 2000.
If Gore won his home state in 2000, he would have won the presidency. But it seems deep red was defined that year.
So, the southern Republican trend doesn't go too far back.
And Texas has evolving demographics and a pretty good disdain for Trump right now.
2020 may be a swing back for them.
Sally Vix wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
As we have seen, calling it an invasion leads to violence. Remember the words of Patrick Crusius:
If you see immigrants as invaders instead of seeing them as refugees then you stand with Patrick Crusius.
If your response to poor migrants from Central America is to greet them with walls and armies instead of kindness and hospitality then you stand with Patrick Crusius.
Look inside yourself. If you are filled with hate instead of love then you stand with Patrick Crusius. You need to make a change.
We can't accept every person who wants to come here. We can try to accept many who come here but we can't accept everybody. The country can not support them. If they go through the proper channels, I am all for having them come to the country. But do we accept 5 million people from Honduras? 10 million from El Salvador? When is enough enough? We are 21 trillion in debt. How can we accommodate another 20 million refugees? And, I will try to quit calling them illegals. Many are indeed refugees.
Please offer proof (and not just trump logic) that immigrants result in a net economic loss to the country. Hint: perhaps you’re whole stance on immigration is based on flawed assumptions...
Trollminator wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
We can't accept every person who wants to come here. We can try to accept many who come here but we can't accept everybody. The country can not support them. If they go through the proper channels, I am all for having them come to the country. But do we accept 5 million people from Honduras? 10 million from El Salvador? When is enough enough? We are 21 trillion in debt. How can we accommodate another 20 million refugees? And, I will try to quit calling them illegals. Many are indeed refugees.
Please offer proof (and not just trump logic) that immigrants result in a net economic loss to the country. Hint: perhaps you’re whole stance on immigration is based on flawed assumptions...
it's true that immigrants do cost money first generation. Uprooted adults who don't speak the language and aren't always very literate often don't work.
But their kids do really well and then it's off to the races. They create huge amounts of tax revenue and aren't Americanized yet so they don't do the drugs and guns that natives do.
The counter to what I just wrote is that so many of our best companies were founded by first gen immigrants. Imagine the country without google or intel. Those companies have obviously created billions and billions of tax dollars.
white males mass murderers or not wrote:
Ultra run legit or not wrote:
Just curious. Hard to believe ultrarunners lately, we found many cheaters over the years. Just saying...
Sure, and white males are responsible for most mass murders in the U.S. So hard to believe any white male is not a mass murderer waiting to happen. Just saying...
That is an overreach. Reword it as--white males who own assault weapons are responsible for most mass murders in the U.S.
Nice summary of Trump and his people, from right winger Rick Wilson:
Trump understands his Deplorables with an almost anthropological eye; he knows they’re not just looking for validation or jobs or a drained Swamp; they’re looking for permission to be as cruel, grotesque, and vicious as he is. He knows they’re addicted now to the way he enables and empowers them to say and do the things they want, regardless of consequence. His brilliant, shitty showmanship is tuned to their Bubba Belt sensibilities; crude, loud, a vulgarian warrior giving them permission to blow up a society leaving them behind.
agip wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Please offer proof (and not just trump logic) that immigrants result in a net economic loss to the country. Hint: perhaps you’re whole stance on immigration is based on flawed assumptions...
it's true that immigrants do cost money first generation. Uprooted adults who don't speak the language and aren't always very literate often don't work.
But their kids do really well and then it's off to the races. They create huge amounts of tax revenue and aren't Americanized yet so they don't do the drugs and guns that natives do.
The counter to what I just wrote is that so many of our best companies were founded by first gen immigrants. Imagine the country without google or intel. Those companies have obviously created billions and billions of tax dollars.
But how many of those companies were founded by first gen immigrants who came to the USA via proper channels, and how many were founded by illegal immigrants? I largely agree with your post but I think it's important to note the difference between "immigrants who arrive in the US with skills (like an H1B visa)" and "immigrants who arrive in the US and then have children who will be successful".
Count Chocula wrote:
agip wrote:
it's true that immigrants do cost money first generation. Uprooted adults who don't speak the language and aren't always very literate often don't work.
But their kids do really well and then it's off to the races. They create huge amounts of tax revenue and aren't Americanized yet so they don't do the drugs and guns that natives do.
The counter to what I just wrote is that so many of our best companies were founded by first gen immigrants. Imagine the country without google or intel. Those companies have obviously created billions and billions of tax dollars.
But how many of those companies were founded by first gen immigrants who came to the USA via proper channels, and how many were founded by illegal immigrants? I largely agree with your post but I think it's important to note the difference between "immigrants who arrive in the US with skills (like an H1B visa)" and "immigrants who arrive in the US and then have children who will be successful".
I understand your point, but let's face it - trumpists want to slow all immigration to a trickle, not just illegal immigration or asylum seekers. They've been working toward this for years. You think the average deplorable cares a whit if he hears a Guatemalan speaking Spanish in his backward town? The spanker isn't going to say to himself 'oh maybe he's a legal immigrant'
Count Chocula wrote:
agip wrote:
it's true that immigrants do cost money first generation. Uprooted adults who don't speak the language and aren't always very literate often don't work.
But their kids do really well and then it's off to the races. They create huge amounts of tax revenue and aren't Americanized yet so they don't do the drugs and guns that natives do.
The counter to what I just wrote is that so many of our best companies were founded by first gen immigrants. Imagine the country without google or intel. Those companies have obviously created billions and billions of tax dollars.
But how many of those companies were founded by first gen immigrants who came to the USA via proper channels, and how many were founded by illegal immigrants? I largely agree with your post but I think it's important to note the difference between "immigrants who arrive in the US with skills (like an H1B visa)" and "immigrants who arrive in the US and then have children who will be successful".
Melania T arrived with a visitor's visa, illegally worked. Was improperly granted an "Einstein" visa -- only because Trump paid to get her on a magazine cover. And dropped an anchor baby. Melania is not an immigrant who arrived in the US with skills; unless taking off your clothes for a rich guy is a "skill."
Obama had it easy because he inherited a recession. He had only one direction to go.
foo wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
The DOW has recovered all of Monday's drop and then some. Average folks are making money and this enrages all the shitlibs here.
How you like dem apples?
Trump wins again.
KAG2020
Trump isn’t even keeping up with Obama and Obama didn’t borrow his stock market performance by borrowing trillions from future generations:
https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president
agip wrote:
Count Chocula wrote:
But how many of those companies were founded by first gen immigrants who came to the USA via proper channels, and how many were founded by illegal immigrants? I largely agree with your post but I think it's important to note the difference between "immigrants who arrive in the US with skills (like an H1B visa)" and "immigrants who arrive in the US and then have children who will be successful".
I understand your point, but let's face it - trumpists want to slow all immigration to a trickle, not just illegal immigration or asylum seekers. They've been working toward this for years. You think the average deplorable cares a whit if he hears a Guatemalan speaking Spanish in his backward town? The spanker isn't going to say to himself 'oh maybe he's a legal immigrant'
on second thought, I didn't really respond to your point.
Yeah, probably the big companies founded by immigrants were probably founded by legal immigrants.
I don't know that, but I assume that's true.
Another point against illegal immigrants is that the US job market has changed - to have a middle class life you need some skills. First gen undocumented immigrants usually have no skills other than cooking. but I'm willing to support them to get the benefit of their children. Otherwise we will have not enough young people in the country to support our old white people like me.
agip wrote:
Count Chocula wrote:
But how many of those companies were founded by first gen immigrants who came to the USA via proper channels, and how many were founded by illegal immigrants? I largely agree with your post but I think it's important to note the difference between "immigrants who arrive in the US with skills (like an H1B visa)" and "immigrants who arrive in the US and then have children who will be successful".
I understand your point, but let's face it - trumpists want to slow all immigration to a trickle, not just illegal immigration or asylum seekers. They've been working toward this for years. You think the average deplorable cares a whit if he hears a Guatemalan speaking Spanish in his backward town? The spanker isn't going to say to himself 'oh maybe he's a legal immigrant'
Haha yeah, definitely agree with you there. Reducing the total volume of immigrants, either legal or illegal, would likely have a negative economic effect on the country, and there is no way to tell at first glance whether a particular immigrant is legal or not.