How many election cycles is a few for Texas before it’s blue?
Imagine Democrats securing the three most populous states in each presidential election and all of their electoral votes?
Then Republicans may clamor for the popular vote to have a chance.
Fat hurts wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Why don't YOU look for the actual quote? Ms Ocasio-Cortez blamed Mr Trump for creating the hostile environment in America during a vigil Monday in Brooklyn.
The president “is directly responsible for what happened in El Paso,” Ms Ocasio-Cortez said, according to the New York Daily news. You need someone to dress you as well? Or you just don't want to see that she said that?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/aoc-trump-el-paso-shooting-directly-responsible-brooklyn-a9044246.htmlYou need to learn to read. "The president" is not in quotes. AOC said something was directly responsible for what happened, but apparently she didn't say it was Trump or they would have put that in quotes as well.
You got played too.
Here is the exact quote from AOC herself. One can see that someone did indeed get played. So, what else is new?
https://youtu.be/4J_Un8ks12c?t=130"Lastly, we need to address the rhetoric around immigration in this country because it is directly responsible for what happened in El Paso"
foo wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Trump is so effing stupid. In response to Obama's criticism, Trump said that Bush 2 never condemed Obama for Sandy Hook. Whether it's fair or not, Trump is taking some heat because the El Paso shooter had some similar views about immigrants. There was nothing political about murdering children at a school. Did Trump think this defense up by himself?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/president-obama-offers-rare-rebuke-wake-el-paso/story%3fid=64789612The funny thing is that Obama never mentioned Trump by name. Just leaders who incite racism, bigotry, etc. You would think that all Americans would agree with Obama's message. It was apolitical. Nope, not Trump...
He not very bright.
Sally Vix wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
If you spout racist tropes, keep calling immigrants seeking asylum an invasion, keep saying they are sending criminals and rapists, etc, and someone uses your words or words similar as motivation to commit acts of violence then as president you are negligent and are at least partly culpable.
The President's words have meaning and carry a lot of weight.
Alan
If 100,000 illegals are crossing the border EACH month then it is an invasion. Why are they not seeking asylum in Mexico? Mexico is right by their countries and they would not have to walk for months in the hot sun. If they are truly seeking asylum, seek asylum in effing Mexico!!! Beyond that - Trump needs to tone down his rhetoric. He does sound like a white nationalist. But, we need to secure the borders!
So because in your view he’s trying to secure the border you are willing to overlook his rhetoric, no matter how damaging or divisive it might be. Where’s your moral red line then, what rhetoric would you deem unacceptable enough for you to fully renounce your support for him? Is there even a red line or would you just brush off anything he says as trump being trump?
Obvi wrote:
Polls don't mean much, this far out.
That makes me sound desperate. We still have time save my boy Trump.
Obvi wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
You need to learn to read. "The president" is not in quotes. AOC said something was directly responsible for what happened, but apparently she didn't say it was Trump or they would have put that in quotes as well.
You got played too.
Here is the exact quote from AOC herself. One can see that someone did indeed get played. So, what else is new?
https://youtu.be/4J_Un8ks12c?t=130"Lastly, we need to address the rhetoric around immigration in this country because it is directly responsible for what happened in El Paso"
Thanks Obvi.
Case closed.
Sally Vix wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
If you spout racist tropes, keep calling immigrants seeking asylum an invasion, keep saying they are sending criminals and rapists, etc, and someone uses your words or words similar as motivation to commit acts of violence then as president you are negligent and are at least partly culpable.
The President's words have meaning and carry a lot of weight.
Alan
If 100,000 illegals are crossing the border EACH month then it is an invasion. Why are they not seeking asylum in Mexico? Mexico is right by their countries and they would not have to walk for months in the hot sun. If they are truly seeking asylum, seek asylum in effing Mexico!!! Beyond that - Trump needs to tone down his rhetoric. He does sound like a white nationalist. But, we need to secure the borders!
You are an idiot dangerous racist b@stard f*ckhead.
Calyope wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
If 100,000 illegals are crossing the border EACH month then it is an invasion. Why are they not seeking asylum in Mexico? Mexico is right by their countries and they would not have to walk for months in the hot sun. If they are truly seeking asylum, seek asylum in effing Mexico!!! Beyond that - Trump needs to tone down his rhetoric. He does sound like a white nationalist. But, we need to secure the borders!
You are an idiot dangerous racist b@stard f*ckhead.
I wouldn't go that far.
She knows the answer.
Alan
GOP Talking Points:
1. Why don't they seek asylum in Mexico?
-Would you? Put yourself in their shoes. What are the laws governing asylum? They are not breaking the laws by peacefully walking across the border, asking for asylum and then processed into the detention facilities. The issue here is the lack of space and speed of processing their cases.
2. Drug and crime come across the border so we must built a wall.
-Crime is gonna crime. A wall will not slow crime or drugs. The slates that are used along large parts of the wall can bet cut in 5min. Concrete walls can be scaled or dig under. TX landowners are not going to allow a wall. So you're just moving crime to where a wall is not there.
Neither 1 nor 2 gives the president to right to demonize immigrants or people of color by calling black counties shithole countries, or telling black and brown women to go back where they came from.
3. If we raise tariffs on Chinese goods then production will move back here.
-In some instances sure. In many instances the framework simply isn't there and the cost of these tariffs are passed on to the Chinese goods. In response China will raise tariffs or manipulate currency absolutely killing American Agricultural.
Alan
Runningart2004 wrote:
GOP Talking Points:
1. Why don't they seek asylum in Mexico?
-Would you? Put yourself in their shoes. What are the laws governing asylum? They are not breaking the laws by peacefully walking across the border, asking for asylum and then processed into the detention facilities. The issue here is the lack of space and speed of processing their cases.
2. Drug and crime come across the border so we must built a wall.
-Crime is gonna crime. A wall will not slow crime or drugs. The slates that are used along large parts of the wall can bet cut in 5min. Concrete walls can be scaled or dig under. TX landowners are not going to allow a wall. So you're just moving crime to where a wall is not there.
Neither 1 nor 2 gives the president to right to demonize immigrants or people of color by calling black counties shithole countries, or telling black and brown women to go back where they came from.
3. If we raise tariffs on Chinese goods then production will move back here.
-In some instances sure. In many instances the framework simply isn't there and the cost of these tariffs are passed on to the Chinese goods. In response China will raise tariffs or manipulate currency absolutely killing American Agricultural.
Alan
That's because he's not very bright.
I don't think a wall is going to stop Tom Cruise from flying drugs into the US.
Runningart2004 wrote:
GOP Talking Points:
1. Why don't they seek asylum in Mexico?
-Would you? Put yourself in their shoes. What are the laws governing asylum? They are not breaking the laws by peacefully walking across the border, asking for asylum and then processed into the detention facilities. The issue here is the lack of space and speed of processing their cases.
2. Drug and crime come across the border so we must built a wall.
-Crime is gonna crime. A wall will not slow crime or drugs. The slates that are used along large parts of the wall can bet cut in 5min. Concrete walls can be scaled or dig under. TX landowners are not going to allow a wall. So you're just moving crime to where a wall is not there.
Neither 1 nor 2 gives the president to right to demonize immigrants or people of color by calling black counties shithole countries, or telling black and brown women to go back where they came from.
3. If we raise tariffs on Chinese goods then production will move back here.
-In some instances sure. In many instances the framework simply isn't there and the cost of these tariffs are passed on to the Chinese goods. In response China will raise tariffs or manipulate currency absolutely killing American Agricultural.
Alan
Shut up, uneducated/democrat piece of trash.
The vast majority of illegals drugs coming into the U.S. do not come across the southern border.
Made in America wrote:
I don't think a wall is going to stop Tom Cruise from flying drugs into the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEBIJRAkujM
DJT is now the first president to ever misspell their own last name. His dementia is in full force.
https://cdn2.img.sputniknews.com/images//107648/33/1076483323.jpg
Ttump wrote:
DJT is now the first president to ever misspell their own last name. His dementia is in full force.
https://cdn2.img.sputniknews.com/images//107648/33/1076483323.jpg
I can't wait for the Trump -Biden debate.
Like two drunk grandpa's who can't figure out what words they want to use but who know they are mad.
Wasn't there a thread along these lines yesterday:
Trump: "Meanwhile, the Dayton, Ohio, shooter had a history of supporting political figures like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and ANTIFA.”
@OANN
I hope other news outlets will report this as opposed to Fake News. Thank you!"
Obviously, Warren sent a subliminal message to the shooter to murder his own sister.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Wasn't there a thread along these lines yesterday:
Trump: "Meanwhile, the Dayton, Ohio, shooter had a history of supporting political figures like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and ANTIFA.”
@OANN
I hope other news outlets will report this as opposed to Fake News. Thank you!"
Obviously, Warren sent a subliminal message to the shooter to murder his own sister.
Actually, Trump directly allowed the Dayton shooter to buy any weapon by revoking Obama's mental health check requirement.
well.....this wrote:
Ttump wrote:
DJT is now the first president to ever misspell their own last name. His dementia is in full force.
https://cdn2.img.sputniknews.com/images//107648/33/1076483323.jpgI can't wait for the Trump -Biden debate.
Like two drunk grandpa's who can't figure out what words they want to use but who know they are mad.
I'll be very surprised if Tiny agrees to any debate. There is no upside for him in a debate.
