Robert Young fakes run across America

Big Cheaters wrote:

Sounds like a large portion of the ultra group are cheaters.

40000 ultrarunners in the US.

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Let's do the math, how many cheaters are there in the US?

Remember you can't count RY as he is from UK.

Big Cheaters wrote:

Sounds like a large portion of the ultra group are cheaters.

It's actually 100% - they all cheat.

Knower2 wrote:

Big Cheaters wrote:

Sounds like a large portion of the ultra group are cheaters.

40000 ultrarunners in the US.

http://statistik.d-u-v.org/summary.php?country=USA&

;amp;Submit.x=11&Submit.y=5#RunnerbyNation

Let's do the math, how many cheaters are there in the US?

Remember you can't count RY as he is from UK.

That's an easy one - there are 39,999 US ultra cheaters.

Knower2 wrote:

40000 ultrarunners in the US.

I'd just say that these 40,000 GENUINE people make up the most COMPASSIONATE and FORGIVING community on the planet.

go longer wrote:

Best with a grain of salt wrote:

Yeah, this guy sounds slightly dopey. To be fair though, most of what you read on the ultralist pertaining to RY, although much more civilized than here, is not nearly as forgiving or clueless.

1. You need to look up the definition of "naive."

2. Giving an honest "out" to a human being who has backed himself into an impossible corner is somehow repulsive to you? You must be a real treat.

Hi Patrick McHenry, welcome to letsrun!

HiPat wrote:

go longer wrote:

1. You need to look up the definition of "naive."

2. Giving an honest "out" to a human being who has backed himself into an impossible corner is somehow repulsive to you? You must be a real treat.

Hi Patrick McHenry, welcome to letsrun!

Anyone who thinks this is an "impossible corner" for a fraudster lacks a brain.

Ahdhcucjendjzj wrote:

She has not been nearly as vocal on his fb page from what I've seen in the last week or so. When the saga started she was replying to basically everything posted on his page, but at least in the last few days-a week hasn't been seen at all from what I've looked at. Realized he's cheating?

Perhaps we should get a comment from her now?

ultragullible wrote:

Knower2 wrote:

40000 ultrarunners in the US.

I'd just say that these 40,000 GENUINE people make up the most COMPASSIONATE and FORGIVING community on the planet.

In any group there are a few bad eggs. Only a simple minded fool attributes the behavior of the outliers to define a group. That being said - statements like the one above are just devisive and unhelpful. "We are better than everyone else in such and such a way". The need to feel you are somehow better is just stupid.

I just looked up finanacials of Tyler Robinson Foundation. It is not even rated by charity rating sites. It basically has one employee taking salary of $50K for the year of 2014. It raised $658,119 and gave away as grants $199,327 spending $342,676 on expenses (not including grants). Despite their fancy website, there is nothing major going on here. More than half of their revenue came from a music band that was collecting donations on its behalf at their conert ($263,183).

CHANGES IN UNRESTRICTED NET ASSETS

Increases in net assets

Contributions:

Special events $ 490,461

General public grants and contributions 167,658

Total contributions 658,119

Decreases in net assets

Operating expenses:

Grants and awards 199,327

Salaries, wages and employee benefits 60,862

Travel 64,278

Special events 100,292

Professional services 33,239

Other general administrative 84,007

Total operating expenses 542,005

Increase in net assets 116,114

Net assets at beginning of year 35,841

Net assets at end of year $ 151,955

teacher of noobs wrote:

skins hates cheaters wrote:

Even if it was some kind of personal blog, so what? It's not like they will get any gain from it.

Of course they will get some "gain" from it. That's why they set up these blogs. But there's nothing inherently wrong in that.

The lrc mentality is to take down anyone that looks like a poser. If they're not posers but good people, they will be able to defend themselves and their work. Regarding the site in question, the maker obviously "forgot" giving due credits and links back to the work he built his site upon. But if those who did the actual work are happy with his site, either now or after modifications, everyone will be happy.

My gain is intrinsic, RYs cheating pissed me off and I wanted to clearly present the data from the incident. That's all.

I do give credit and link here, what else is necessary? I list a source for every graphic that wasn't mine.

Moo Goo wrote:

I just looked up finanacials of Tyler Robinson Foundation. It is not even rated by charity rating sites. It basically has one employee taking salary of $50K for the year of 2014. It raised $658,119 and gave away as grants $199,327 spending $342,676 on expenses (not including grants).

That's a good biz.

Marathonmanuk

May 2, 2014 ·

The World Record states that: at least 5 points of the course needs to be verified by at least 2 different people. any other material will help to upheld the record such as distance recordings, photos, course measured to marathon distance etc.

How do you Record the routes you run?

Marathon 1 to 17

recording by the following:

Marathon 1 to 17 have been recording by the following:

1. at least 5 points of the course needs to be verified by at least 2 different people start and finish as well.

2. gps tracking the route

3. 3 routes have been used and 2 routes have been measured to marathon Distance and 1 route is pending to be measured by UK Athletics measurer and will all be verified as marathon distance.

Marathon 18 onwards

recorded by the following:

1. at least 5 points of the course verified by at least 2 different people start and finish as well.

2. body cam to record the routes

3. gps tracking the route

4. routes are measured and verified as marathon distance

5. entering marathon events with timed recordings throughout the uk

6. support team on routes - recording

7. runners and cyclist joining in and posting their sightings

Gordon Gekko approved wrote:

Moo Goo wrote:

I just looked up finanacials of Tyler Robinson Foundation. It is not even rated by charity rating sites. It basically has one employee taking salary of $50K for the year of 2014. It raised $658,119 and gave away as grants $199,327 spending $342,676 on expenses (not including grants).

That's a good biz.

How can I set up my own "charity"?

RYinvestigator wrote:

2. gps tracking the route

Note, track the route, not the run.

Fvcking scammer he is.

Still no updates on the facebook page. They must have called it quits entirely. You'd think they'd at least give their fans and donors an explanation.

ThunderThighs wrote:

How can I set up my own "charity"?

Just send me your credit card info and I will do it for you free of charge. For the kids of course.

Much has been made of my silence recently so here is a short update for all

In the UK you are innocent until PROVEN guilty.

I support Rob as I believe in him and his abilities.

Am I so wrong to believe in someone. Ask yourselves would you not have the back of someone you believed in?

Someone I have seen run stupid distances with verified testimony from people I didn't know but have since come to know a little due to this run.

Andy handed over to me at mile 350 with three other runners and verified that he had run the last 60 miles with Rob.

Rob had similar people running with him throughout this epic run and all testify to its credibility.

If you look at this in an objective way it would be impossible to get 20+ pacers who have never met each other and never likely to meet again to corroborate together with a great lie.

I can testify that I took over at mile 350 and was there with Rob until mile 373.75 and saw the state he was in. Other people witnessed this including another pacer from mile 360 till finish and a few others who were involved.

I realise you all want video footage with GPS watches surgically attached to Rob's leg and at least 5 different TV companies following his every step but this wasn't possible to arrange. I'm sure even if this happened many of you would still not believe it.

I did ask you to join in and despite many threats of "boots on the ground" it appears that hardly any of you did. If you had you could comment with conviction like I do

I also FULLY understand how many people and questioning Rob and his past results.

I can only post on my experience of running with him on two occasions. In both I saw a man of great strength and ability.

There was no Strava, no GPS, no cameras but I was there and you were not. It is this first hand experience that allows me to back my horse.

Those who paced Rob are just normal runners with no vested interest in anything other than supporting someone who asked for some help.

Personally I have helped a number of people who have asked in a variety of ways and some I have never met and others I have paced.

For those who don't understand ultra running if some one asks for a pacer and you can help then many of us do just that. We run, for the love of running and to help others achieve their goal.

I know you are all desperate to prove Rob as a cheater and that's up to you.

I continue to support the person I believe in whether that is a crazy action or not.

With regard to this challenge I was not there so cannot comment with certainty. I believe Rob not only had the ability but also the drive to complete it.

There are questions to be answered and I am just as eager as you all are to get answers.

Despite what you might think of me I am not a delusional person who worships at Rob's alter.

I do have the balls to post as myself and not hide behind a keyboard. It's a real pity many of you prefer to hide, I can say happily that I didn't choose the cowards option.

Some people I have discussed things with in an adult way and others have taken the cowards route.

I would ask that you respect my decision to back Rob as much as I respect your choice to doubt.

To continue to troll me and my family really isn't acceptable and this who do so should be ashamed.

This really isn't that important in the scheme of things so please refrain from any more personal attacks on Andy, myself and others involved in the pro Rob camp.

We are just supporting someone we believe in and do not deserve the treatment received.

I have tried to be nice and to respond in the best way possible so let's just say that you guys have got your way, Rob has stopped his run so let's all get back to our lives and focus on the real issues in life.

I wish you all well and hope that none of you take offence in my words.

I'm off for a run and hope you do too. It does wonders for relieving stress

ThunderThighs wrote:

Gordon Gekko approved wrote:

That's a good biz.

How can I set up my own "charity"?

Probably start by getting a job moving out of your mom's house.

CoachKev wrote:

blah blah

Where are the GPS tracks?