I was at the YMCA yesterday, we had some pretty heavy snows lately. One friend was telling me how his electric snow blower did three houses before it ran out of charge. He has several tools that are electric battery including a lawnmower he admits does not cut very well. I remarked how my 25 year old gas powered Craftsman still works fine.
The best thing I ever bought was an electric Ego lawnmower for $599 3 years ago. Everything about it has been perfect.
As one of the posters pointed out in the comments section, rental car companies commonly sell their vehicles within a year or two of getting them, so putting 2021 vehicles up for sale is not a surprise. Link avail. upon request: "Car rental companies do not hold on to their fleet for more than 2 years and since the cars are bought in volume and pay less upfront when reselling it could be an affordable rate for the buyer."
And the price is actually kind of high in that the cars listed have 80k miles on them.
Also, I seem to recollect that the article said Hertz is cutting back on the number of EVs, not totally shifting back to Petrol Cars, so a bit of exaggeration there, esp. since the EVs comprised only 11% of their current fleet.
No way would I be buying a used Tesla with 80,000 miles on it. The battery alone weighs close to 2,000 pounds. Imagine what that does to shocks, suspension and everything else. The battery on the new electric Hummer weighs about 3,500 pounds, or about the same as a Corolla. Yikes.
As one of the posters pointed out in the comments section, rental car companies commonly sell their vehicles within a year or two of getting them, so putting 2021 vehicles up for sale is not a surprise. Link avail. upon request: "Car rental companies do not hold on to their fleet for more than 2 years and since the cars are bought in volume and pay less upfront when reselling it could be an affordable rate for the buyer."
And the price is actually kind of high in that the cars listed have 80k miles on them.
Also, I seem to recollect that the article said Hertz is cutting back on the number of EVs, not totally shifting back to Petrol Cars, so a bit of exaggeration there, esp. since the EVs comprised only 11% of their current fleet.
No way would I be buying a used Tesla with 80,000 miles on it. The battery alone weighs close to 2,000 pounds. Imagine what that does to shocks, suspension and everything else. The battery on the new electric Hummer weighs about 3,500 pounds, or about the same as a Corolla. Yikes.
I don’t have anything against EVs and specifically think Tesla is a sharp looking vehicle. However, I question the Greens promoting EVs as less environmentally impactful than what Seattle calls petrol cars. How does that work when the EV carcass ends up in a landfill in ten years?
No way would I be buying a used Tesla with 80,000 miles on it. The battery alone weighs close to 2,000 pounds. Imagine what that does to shocks, suspension and everything else. The battery on the new electric Hummer weighs about 3,500 pounds, or about the same as a Corolla. Yikes.
I don’t have anything against EVs and specifically think Tesla is a sharp looking vehicle. However, I question the Greens promoting EVs as less environmentally impactful than what Seattle calls petrol cars. How does that work when the EV carcass ends up in a landfill in ten years?
I'll just note here that we've fought multiple wars for oil over the last few generations, resulting in hundreds of thousands of dead human beings including many Americans. And that leaves aside those wounded physically or mentally in order to keep the oil flowing. Of course those wars have resulted in massive environmental damage. And trillions of dollars of cost.
As one of the posters pointed out in the comments section, rental car companies commonly sell their vehicles within a year or two of getting them, so putting 2021 vehicles up for sale is not a surprise. Link avail. upon request: "Car rental companies do not hold on to their fleet for more than 2 years and since the cars are bought in volume and pay less upfront when reselling it could be an affordable rate for the buyer."
And the price is actually kind of high in that the cars listed have 80k miles on them.
Also, I seem to recollect that the article said Hertz is cutting back on the number of EVs, not totally shifting back to Petrol Cars, so a bit of exaggeration there, esp. since the EVs comprised only 11% of their current fleet.
No way would I be buying a used Tesla with 80,000 miles on it. The battery alone weighs close to 2,000 pounds. Imagine what that does to shocks, suspension and everything else. The battery on the new electric Hummer weighs about 3,500 pounds, or about the same as a Corolla. Yikes.
I wouldn't either. But I think the models of EVs coming out in the coming months and years will be much better and my spouse is already chomping at the bit big time to take the leap into an EV. I wish they would hurry up with developing the infrastructure - more charging stations and more standardized between makes/types of chargers and vehicles - and extending the capabilities of the batteries, and improving on frequency and cost of repairs.
No way would I be buying a used Tesla with 80,000 miles on it. The battery alone weighs close to 2,000 pounds. Imagine what that does to shocks, suspension and everything else. The battery on the new electric Hummer weighs about 3,500 pounds, or about the same as a Corolla. Yikes.
I don’t have anything against EVs and specifically think Tesla is a sharp looking vehicle. However, I question the Greens promoting EVs as less environmentally impactful than what Seattle calls petrol cars. How does that work when the EV carcass ends up in a landfill in ten years?
Apparently EVs las as long or longer than a internal combustion engine (petrol) car. Either that is true or Kelly Blue Book is part of the Green promoting cabal.
Kelly Blue Book wrote:
An electric car will last as long as a car with an internal combustion engine (ICE), if not longer, because electric vehicles (EVs) don’t have all the mechanical components of an ICE vehicle. In other words, there are more things that can wear out or go wrong in an ICE car than in an EV. The nationwide average age of a car is now 12.5 years. It’s a number that has been steadily rising for the past few years. Electric cars are a recent enough development that we don’t have a deep well of data to draw from. However, there is no reason to believe that an EV won’t last as long as an ICE vehicle if taken care of. Read on to learn more about EV battery life.
And funny you should bring up my use of the term petrol cars, because that was how they were being referred to in the article being discussed.
Our family has a 24 year old Ford Ranger (175,000 miles) and 22 year old Acura (131,000 miles), both will easily make it to 30 years old. Now they are serviced regularly, and have had costs like a transmission rebuild. Still the cost of ownership is low, and neither vehicle is in a landfill. My skepticism centers on the battery life, cost of replacement, and whether the body carcass and battery disposal makes EVs somewhat less environmentally friendly than advertised. I suppose we will see over time.
Here is an article from earlier in the week. As Sally mentioned batteries make the car heavier, which requires more expensive tires, than have a shorter lifespan.
Our family has a 24 year old Ford Ranger (175,000 miles) and 22 year old Acura (131,000 miles), both will easily make it to 30 years old. Now they are serviced regularly, and have had costs like a transmission rebuild. Still the cost of ownership is low, and neither vehicle is in a landfill. My skepticism centers on the battery life, cost of replacement, and whether the body carcass and battery disposal makes EVs somewhat less environmentally friendly than advertised. I suppose we will see over time.
Funny, I had a great Ford Ranger (extended cab) about that vintage, and in fact, exactly that vintage, and I loved that truck. But I had to get rid of it upon the birth of our son because we couldn't oufit it with a safe child seat.
That's a lot of miles, though, and I never got quite that much out of any of my vehicles.
I'm an absolute diehard use it 'til it dies proponent. Can't help it. Some (maybe half?) the machines in my home shop I bought used and rebuilt to extend their life. Cars the same for me except that I learned long ago that I really don't like working on them (so don't).
Isn't there a lot of work being done on improving the batteries? I would bet anything that the technology will vastly improve. Hope soon, too.
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I would assume battery life will improve over time. I have an electric lawn trimmer and need battery replacement every two years. Previously had a two-cycle gas lawn trimmer, another Craftsman, lasted a quarter century.
My skepticism centers on the battery life, cost of replacement, and whether the body carcass and battery disposal makes EVs somewhat less environmentally friendly than advertised. I suppose we will see over time.
Similar issues to conventional vehicles. Recycle what you can.
Here is an article from earlier in the week. As Sally mentioned batteries make the car heavier, which requires more expensive tires, than have a shorter lifespan.
I had to carry my car battery in Austin uphill about 2 miles one time. That probably weighed 35 pounds. That sucker was heavy after a while. Imagine putting a 2,000 battery in the middle of a car. How much that stresses the suspension and everything else. And the Hummer - that battery is 3,500 pounds - the same weight as a Corolla. I don't care how well you build that suspension, the tires and shocks and suspension is going to take a beating.
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