The Trials and Tribulations of Running YouTubers

ShoeTubersHaveNoEthics · 2023-02-10T08:28:06-05:00

Given the Seth DeMoor thread is so popular, I thought maybe it'd be a good idea to start a thread about the other big running YouTubers and their trials and tribulations. Nick Symmonds: Not sure I'd call him a running YouTuber anymore, but his creatine-fueled quest to dead lift 500 pounds into a sub 5 mile appears to have hit a snag, as there have been no uploads after he ran a 5:30. Maybe carrying around all that Bison muscle makes it hard to run. Ben Felton: Hasn't posted on a week, last seen discerning the Asics Gel Nimbus and telling us a running shoe that's been around for 25 versions is worth $200, and running around in Nike Invincibles with Paula Radcliffe. Ben Parkes: Had an epic blow up on the beach Parkrun in the UK and ran 21:20 after being slowed down by all that sand. Matt Fox: in what should frustrate Seth DeMoor and perhaps establish a new rivalry, Matt partnered with Soar Running to make a Sweat Elite singlet, which you too can have for $79. Not only did Matt steal Seth's bobos, he undercut Seth on the price. Lol. Kofuzi: Bought a bunch of cheap shoes on Amazon and filmed himself running in them. Injury incoming after he ran in the Tiamou? Video was useful warning about possibly getting fakes from 3rd party sellers. Harry Morgan: crediting a longer warm up for breaking 19 in a parkrun. Run Like Heller: having difficulty opening a wood box from Saucony with a hammer. Phily Bowden: Running around Flagstaff in the snow and preparing for a late spring marathon. Who needs reality TV or to pay for cable when you have all this drama to stare at while munching on popcorn!

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8 months ago 09/21/2025 8:49am EDT

re: madness11

madness11 wrote:
How about pace yourself? A positive split is a poorly executed race regardless of weather. Hot weather has been forecast for days.

The 2 This Messy Happy twist and Matt Rees especially should know better. They're meant to be coaches yet after 5k none of them thought "hmm, this is a bit harder than expected, maybe I should hold back a bit" - not a clue how to run a marathon, any of them, yet charge £100 a month to be your coach! The This Messy Happy people peaked 5 weeks ago simply because it once worked for someone they coached!

8 months ago 09/21/2025 9:17am EDT

re: Sheikh Yaboutii

Sheikh Yaboutii wrote:
KoshJerr wrote:
Ben Felton 2:38?
Lmao

Eh, thought he was doing chicago?

8 months ago 09/21/2025 11:32am EDT

re: UnderratedHere

UnderratedHere wrote:
Tim Grose wrote:
I see Ryan was pretty much even pace to HM in 1:09:07 and finished in 2:21:22 so got to assume adjusted his targets as that would be fine run in hot weather if you looked at those times without knowing who it was. Otherwise I seemed to have "failed" on my predictions although relatively about right. Clearly a tough day but I guess if you enter a marathon in mid Sept summer hasn't usually finished.
I think this just shows quite how special Nick Besters 2:19 at Berlin was last year. If even someone as talented as Cole & Ryan don’t break 2:20 on that course.
Jake has won the battle between the three of those (Jake, Ryan, Cole) it seems as he did a 2:19 Mara in Japan a couple of weeks back

Yeah, I’ve called him out before but you do really have to say fair play to Bester here. Was a cracking run and a lesson to all on how to run a marathon

8 months ago 09/21/2025 11:41am EDT

re: c'mon guys, it is not 'thon weather

c\'mon guys, it is not \'thon weather wrote:
As they should, it is REALLY F*CKING HOT
Note: I'm not defending shoe tubers, but there's really nothing you can do in a 'thon when it's this hot, especially when you're just a hobby jogger.

This is the same stupid argument we saw from London 2025 defending runfluencers for essentially lying to their fans and themselves in the buildup to the marathon regarding their true fitness. And when they inevitably blew up, they blame it on the heat

I had friends and acquaintances who ran today and hit big PB’s and their Strava splits were controlled all the way through

Harry Styles ran a 3:24 in London this year and then did a 2:59 today. How? You could argue that he was close to 3 hour shape in London but ran slower because of the heat… but today was much hotter and he runs 25 minutes faster with even splits

8 months ago 09/21/2025 11:56am EDT

re: Hove actually

i watched part of one of his videos recently. wet cardboard has more personality.

In the video he spoke about leaving his corporate job to "influence" and coach full time. A quick search on UKA Coach Directory (https://find-a-coach.myathletics.uk/) and the guy is a Leader in Running Fitness (LiRF). Basically zero qualifications other than being able to lead a warm up and cool down lol.

The directory makes for interesting reading. Of all those shilling their coaching (I'm looking at you Welshrunner, Ben Parkes, Felton), the only one i can see that has a valid CiRF qualification is Bester.

8 months ago 09/21/2025 12:18pm EDT

re: modern toss

modern toss wrote:
i watched part of one of his videos recently. wet cardboard has more personality.
In the video he spoke about leaving his corporate job to "influence" and coach full time. A quick search on UKA Coach Directory () and the guy is a Leader in Running Fitness (LiRF). Basically zero qualifications other than being able to lead a warm up and cool down lol.
Link:find-a-coach.myathletics.uk/
The directory makes for interesting reading. Of all those shilling their coaching (I'm looking at you Welshrunner, Ben Parkes, Felton), the only one i can see that has a valid CiRF qualification is Bester.

Yes. I used the have the Leadership in Running Fitness (you had to renew your license and mine lapsed). But it was basically just for people wanting to safely lead casual group run-club type activities. When I did it (around 2013) the assumption was that most people were volunteering to create community jogging groups or volunteer with kids. In terms of UK Athletics qualifications, most of the usual suspects do indeed only have the Leadership rather than the Coach qualification. (At least Bester bothered to get the next level up). It's possible the others have American qualifications that they got online but I agree it's a bit of a stretch offering one-on-one coaching just with the LiRF in the UK.

8 months ago 09/21/2025 12:49pm EDT

re: modern toss

modern toss wrote:
i watched part of one of his videos recently. wet cardboard has more personality.
In the video he spoke about leaving his corporate job to "influence" and coach full time. A quick search on UKA Coach Directory () and the guy is a Leader in Running Fitness (LiRF). Basically zero qualifications other than being able to lead a warm up and cool down lol.
Link:find-a-coach.myathletics.uk/
The directory makes for interesting reading. Of all those shilling their coaching (I'm looking at you Welshrunner, Ben Parkes, Felton), the only one i can see that has a valid CiRF qualification is Bester.

Felton doesn't coach?

8 months ago 09/21/2025 1:04pm EDT

re: ShoeTubersHaveNoEthics

Why do running youtubers have the stupidest training plans?

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"But I do have 10 miles easy to run in an hour or so".

Who in their right mind decides its a good idea to do a 10 mile run an hour after a 10k race where they hit a PB?? Especially when that 10k PB is 38:34 (so firmly hobbyjogger territory). Like... just do the 10 mile run tomorrow instead??

8 months ago 09/21/2025 1:24pm EDT

re: Why do this

Why do this wrote:
Why do running youtubers have the stupidest training plans?
"But I do have 10 miles easy to run in an hour or so".
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=3emBR1SYsvQ&t=...
Who in their right mind decides its a good idea to do a 10 mile run an hour after a 10k race where they hit a PB?? Especially when that 10k PB is 38:34 (so firmly hobbyjogger territory). Like... just do the 10 mile run tomorrow instead??

How else are you supposed to brag about your 10k time (at a specific weight) whilst also being able to brag about hitting arbitrary mileage targets?

I know I definitely would have subconsciously held back in the race a little bit if I knew I had to run 10 miles afterwards.

8 months ago 09/21/2025 1:31pm EDT

re: Runrunrun Bananaphone

Runrunrun Bananaphone wrote:
modern toss wrote:
i watched part of one of his videos recently. wet cardboard has more personality.
In the video he spoke about leaving his corporate job to "influence" and coach full time. A quick search on UKA Coach Directory () and the guy is a Leader in Running Fitness (LiRF). Basically zero qualifications other than being able to lead a warm up and cool down lol.
Link:find-a-coach.myathletics.uk/
The directory makes for interesting reading. Of all those shilling their coaching (I'm looking at you Welshrunner, Ben Parkes, Felton), the only one i can see that has a valid CiRF qualification is Bester.
Felton doesn't coach?

Swap him out for Cole Gibbons then

8 months ago 09/21/2025 2:12pm EDT

re: Why do this

Why do this wrote:
Why do running youtubers have the stupidest training plans?
"But I do have 10 miles easy to run in an hour or so".
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=3emBR1SYsvQ&t=...
Who in their right mind decides its a good idea to do a 10 mile run an hour after a 10k race where they hit a PB?? Especially when that 10k PB is 38:34 (so firmly hobbyjogger territory). Like... just do the 10 mile run tomorrow instead??

I guarantee you his "easy pace" is about 4:30 per k as well.

According to Strava his 5k PB is 18:11 so he's underperforming with that 38:34

However he needs to sell whatever supplements of snake oil makes him money. These "hybrid" juiced up influencers are leeches. They pretend everything is natural , here's what I eat in a day, here's a day of my routine etc, and young mustached, mulleted, dweebs lap it up, buying whatever crap they're selling, plus AG1

How did Ms Bowden do??????

8 months ago 09/21/2025 2:26pm EDT

re: modern toss

Yowana sounded miserable in his last video. He did 6 straight weeks where lowest mileage was 118 miles, & one week was at 142 miles. The mileage junkie might be due for a break.

8 months ago 09/21/2025 2:27pm EDT

re: Runrunrun Bananaphone

Cole's latest video "Has Running Had Made Me Unhealthy"

Great work by his content manager

8 months ago 09/21/2025 2:32pm EDT

re: modern toss

modern toss wrote:
i watched part of one of his videos recently. wet cardboard has more personality.
In the video he spoke about leaving his corporate job to "influence" and coach full time. A quick search on UKA Coach Directory () and the guy is a Leader in Running Fitness (LiRF). Basically zero qualifications other than being able to lead a warm up and cool down lol.
Link:find-a-coach.myathletics.uk/
The directory makes for interesting reading. Of all those shilling their coaching (I'm looking at you Welshrunner, Ben Parkes, Felton), the only one i can see that has a valid CiRF qualification is Bester.

Your semi-regular reminder to use the 'quote post' button when replying and referring to people as 'he', because noone knows who you are talking about unless they go scrolling back through previous pages.

8 months ago 09/21/2025 2:44pm EDT

re: DNFs are resilient

DNFs are resilient wrote:
c\'mon guys, it is not \'thon weather wrote:
As they should, it is REALLY F*CKING HOT
Note: I'm not defending shoe tubers, but there's really nothing you can do in a 'thon when it's this hot, especially when you're just a hobby jogger.
This is the same stupid argument we saw from London 2025 defending runfluencers for essentially lying to their fans and themselves in the buildup to the marathon regarding their true fitness. And when they inevitably blew up, they blame it on the heat
I had friends and acquaintances who ran today and hit big PB’s and their Strava splits were controlled all the way through
Harry Styles ran a 3:24 in London this year and then did a 2:59 today. How? You could argue that he was close to 3 hour shape in London but ran slower because of the heat… but today was much hotter and he runs 25 minutes faster with even splits

Floberg dropped the ultimate guide to fueling for a sub 3 just in time for Harry to watch it before Berlin. Congrats Harry. I expect to see a big donation next tree time.

8 months ago 09/21/2025 2:48pm EDT

re: Sebastian Newbold Coe

Sebastian Newbold Coe wrote:
Cole's latest video "Has Running Had Made Me Unhealthy"
Great work by his content manager

Says he going to be employing a coach in future which is great. Always best to get an external perspective no matter your ability. Says it’s a couple, wonder who it could be? My uneducated out there guess is Eilish McColgan and Michael Rimmer. Could it be the Running Brooms?

8 months ago 09/21/2025 3:16pm EDT

re: Hove actually

I can confirm definitely not! Cole is a lovely chap who has a great future. I'm sure with his contacts he'll get the very best for his future development.

8 months ago 09/21/2025 3:27pm EDT

re: modern toss

I was a coach ed tutor for UKA; good money for a weekend.

I wouldn't let most of the people who came through LiRF and CiRF tell my dog how to sit. Most are useless, some are dangerous.

8 months ago 09/21/2025 3:29pm EDT

re: Hove actually

Hove actually wrote:
Sebastian Newbold Coe wrote:
Cole's latest video "Has Running Had Made Me Unhealthy"
Great work by his content manager
Says he going to be employing a coach in future which is great. Always best to get an external perspective no matter your ability. Says it’s a couple, wonder who it could be? My uneducated out there guess is Eilish McColgan and Michael Rimmer. Could it be the Running Brooms?

Gavin and Jo Pavey

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