Just out of my own curiosity, and maybe only Manny can answer this, what is the process for getting these signatures and what is the delivery mechanism for getting the petition to the correct people at Rowan/NCAA/SafeSport/etc?
I’m not even sure they’re even vetting the names they’re putting on the petition. See #347. I would hope they would at least take it more seriously if you’re going to send this out as a real petition with Jeffrey Epstein as a signee and expect to receive real results.
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As a former NJ runner, I feel it is truly despicable what Seth Clevinger is doing, and that he is practically getting away with it. To have someone allegedly cheating, with alleged emails of them purchasing epo, and to still not have any form of investigation done behooves me. Shame on Rowan, although from what I've read this is on par with something they would do. Do the right thing and suspend Seth until the truth can fully be uncovered.
Been following a long here for a while. The sport has transcended to where this stuff is so prevalent, yet with social media so easy to get caught. Not the only emails in discussion right now (not getting political but Jeffrey). This is like parking a truck in the middle of an open field and expecting nobody to see it. The times are quick. The spotlight is on the kid. But some people are making up stuff as we go along here. To Ethan’s point. People should be held accountable. I remember Ethan from the 2010s (likely not same Ethan) that got booted from his nj highschool for unknown reasons. Everyone thought it was the juice we’re seeing here. Pre super shoes as well. Ethan is doing fine for himself now out in flag but only doing motor sales and was really not given another shot at running and the situation was a bit supressed (can’t find any info on the internet). I really hope this isn’t what people are making it out to be. Seth should lawyer up and fight this.
Just more of the same idiots trying to divert again. They want anything but this thread focused on what possible proof indicates and is likely the reality. They want to focus on everything BUT the fact that the significant majority of ncaa d3 distance runners believe this kid shouldn’t be able to compete until this is settled. They’re even signing the petition under fictitious names to discredit it.
You know what, maybe what he did was not so bad, but he doesn’t want to talk about it.
Maybe he simply hit a teammate with a towel.
It’s not good (Gjert had to go to court for that), but it’s not terrible either
Maybe he doesn't want to talk about it, but what is he going to do when he's applying for jobs in a few years and people google his name and this thread is the third thing that pops up? IDK what to make of this anymore. Either SC and Rowan are in for some serious repercussions or there's going to be a defamation case for the ages stemming from this.
You can view who made specific edits and changes to Google Docs lol.
We can only speculate who might be motivated to add names to the document in a way that derails its purpose, but the document's owner (LeBlond) is likely going to know who exactly made the mistake of leaving behind their digital footprint — perhaps not for the first time.
You can view who made specific edits and changes to Google Docs lol.
We can only speculate who might be motivated to add names to the document in a way that derails its purpose, but the document's owner (LeBlond) is likely going to know who exactly made the mistake of leaving behind their digital footprint — perhaps not for the first time.
Feels like deja vu from a certain “public computer + Google account” fiasco. Dude needs to bone up on Google hygiene.
This is so sad. It was only a matter of time until a D1 kid who had talent came to D3, I'm surprised it took this long. Imagine being so slow, you have to make a petition because you are mad that you aren't going to win nationals in the 5k. My advice to Emmanuel and D3, run faster, get fitter. You're mad Seth is breaking the records? A kid who ran your mile PR in highschool ? Then go out there and take the records back yourself.
This is so sad. It was only a matter of time until a D1 kid who had talent came to D3, I'm surprised it took this long. Imagine being so slow, you have to make a petition because you are mad that you aren't going to win nationals in the 5k. My advice to Emmanuel and D3, run faster, get fitter. You're mad Seth is breaking the records? A kid who ran your mile PR in highschool ? Then go out there and take the records back yourself.
d1 level talent ≠ epo user
I personally would care much less about losing to, for example, Ryan Wilson – who ran 3:55 at MIT – than someone on epo...
I think the athletes are mostly mad that a kid that was removed from his previous DI team under suspicious circumstances wound up on the roster and competing at a D3 school. That athlete was then potentially linked to possible email evidence that shows purchases for TWO banned substances that significantly improve performance.
This is so sad. It was only a matter of time until a D1 kid who had talent came to D3, I'm surprised it took this long. Imagine being so slow, you have to make a petition because you are mad that you aren't going to win nationals in the 5k. My advice to Emmanuel and D3, run faster, get fitter. You're mad Seth is breaking the records? A kid who ran your mile PR in highschool ? Then go out there and take the records back yourself.
d1 level talent ≠ epo user
I personally would care much less about losing to, for example, Ryan Wilson – who ran 3:55 at MIT – than someone on epo...
The seth supporters inherently won't respond to logic. Reminds me of flat-earthers.
