Even if 100% of Ukraine was conquered who would fight?
You don't seem to understand what appeasement even is or what a security guarantee is...
On March 31, 1939 the UK and France announced they would fight if Poland was threatened.
Was March 1939 before or after September 1939?
What you're still too stupid to understand is that security guarantees are meaningless if you will not or cannot enforce them.
You don't know your history, or blatantly lying.
From M Gessen, award winning NYT columnist and author of "The Future is History: How totalitarianism reclaimed Russia
M Gessen wrote:
Putin doesn’t just want a return to the 20th century. He already resides there, and that is where anyone looking for what could happen next should turn – specifically to 1938, when British prime minister Neville Chamberlain, who fancied himself a brilliant negotiator and an expert in all things, brokered an agreement that gave Adolf Hitler Sudetenland, an area of Czechoslovakia. In exchange, the rest of Europe would, ostensibly, be safe from German aggression. A year after the resulting Munich Agreement was signed, of course, Germany invaded Poland, and World War II officially began.
i.e. the same peace and seccession without security
Educate yourself
An opinion piece written by a moron isn't an education.
WHO is going to do the fighting to guarantee Ukraine's security?
Europe has made it very clear that they don't want to. Not that they even could with their completely neglected militaries.
Weird that whenever the answer to a question destroys your idiotic position you pretend it never happened and just insult me.
You never insult anyone, do you?
I'll give you one thing though, you always 'win' your arguments because you're the one with the most time. You post and post and post until the person you're arguing with gives up or has actual stuff to do.
Bit sad that you've literally got nothing else in your life besides arguments and insults on this messageboard.
“Here’s the genius part - Trump is actually protecting the Ukraine without dragging the US into war. By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives - something that would force the US to respond. Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelesnky will have no choice but to concede because without the US support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once US companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences. Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.”
Donnie is 10 steps BEHIND in this game of chess. Rather, its simple street thug life rules.
Donnie owes Putin money. Putin tells Donnie, " give me Ukraine and all debts are forgiven".
Donnie pitches a "unbelievable simple deal to make you rich if you do XXX", to a bunch 4th tier nobodies wanting to be " players like me". Hence, the cast of characters who are now Trump's " little crabs". Note the life backgrounds of the "little crabs".
Here comes the " double switch".
Donnie THINKS Putty will call off all debts, but doesn't. Putin gets the minerals and sea ports.
What does Donnie get? no Trump Hotel no mineral companies in Ukraine. Only, cement shoes.
What does Elon get? no Starlink, Tesla, SpaceX or Paypal 2.0 and ends up bankrupt.
What do the "crabs" get? Jail time and bankruptcy like Rudy, Mr.Pillow and election officials.
What does America get? Ruined. China just sitting back watching doing nothing is #1 now.
Weird that whenever the answer to a question destroys your idiotic position you pretend it never happened and just insult me.
You never insult anyone, do you?
I'll give you one thing though, you always 'win' your arguments because you're the one with the most time. You post and post and post until the person you're arguing with gives up or has actual stuff to do.
Bit sad that you've literally got nothing else in your life besides arguments and insults on this messageboard.
Oh I insult plenty because I treat people like they treat me and you lefties simply cannot be civil if you're disagreed with.
I haven't even posted here in months.
It's sad that people like you are incapable of dealing with the actual arguments.
You're demanding people die for your virtue signaling. Who?
WHO is going to do the fighting to guarantee Ukraine's security?
“Here’s the genius part - Trump is actually protecting the Ukraine without dragging the US into war. By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives - something that would force the US to respond. Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelesnky will have no choice but to concede because without the US support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once US companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences. Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.”
Donnie is 10 steps BEHIND in this game of chess. Rather, its simple street thug life rules.
Donnie owes Putin money. Putin tells Donnie, " give me Ukraine and all debts are forgiven".
Donnie pitches a "unbelievable simple deal to make you rich if you do XXX", to a bunch 4th tier nobodies wanting to be " players like me". Hence, the cast of characters who are now Trump's " little crabs". Note the life backgrounds of the "little crabs".
Here comes the " double switch".
Donnie THINKS Putty will call off all debts, but doesn't. Putin gets the minerals and sea ports.
What does Donnie get? no Trump Hotel no mineral companies in Ukraine. Only, cement shoes.
What does Elon get? no Starlink, Tesla, SpaceX or Paypal 2.0 and ends up bankrupt.
What do the "crabs" get? Jail time and bankruptcy like Rudy, Mr.Pillow and election officials.
What does America get? Ruined. China just sitting back watching doing nothing is #1 now.
Yes if America doesn't continue to write blank checks to a meaningless 3rd world country and commit to starting World War 3 the US will be "ruined".
Who do you expect to die so you can continue to virtue signal?
Oh I insult plenty because I treat people like they treat me and you lefties simply cannot be civil if you're disagreed with.
I haven't even posted here in months.
It's sad that people like you are incapable of dealing with the actual arguments.
You're demanding people die for your virtue signaling. Who?
WHO is going to do the fighting to guarantee Ukraine's security?
The account you're currently posting from has 16k posts. How many of those posts would you say involves insulting someone? Your Badcompany account was exactly the same (did that one get banned?)
I appreciate you don't seem to be capable of introspection, but at some point you really should have a think and maybe come to the conclusion that perhaps you're the problem.
Oh I insult plenty because I treat people like they treat me and you lefties simply cannot be civil if you're disagreed with.
I haven't even posted here in months.
It's sad that people like you are incapable of dealing with the actual arguments.
You're demanding people die for your virtue signaling. Who?
WHO is going to do the fighting to guarantee Ukraine's security?
The account you're currently posting from has 16k posts. How many of those posts would you say involves insulting someone? Your Badcompany account was exactly the same (did that one get banned?)
I appreciate you don't seem to be capable of introspection, but at some point you really should have a think and maybe come to the conclusion that perhaps you're the problem.
You're insulting me as you try to lecture me about insults.
A more intelligent person would see the irony.
And again... I'm very hurt by your insults... you should be very proud. Congratulations.
WHO is going to do the fighting to guarantee Ukraine's security?
Oh I insult plenty because I treat people like they treat me and you lefties simply cannot be civil if you're disagreed with.
I haven't even posted here in months.
It's sad that people like you are incapable of dealing with the actual arguments.
You're demanding people die for your virtue signaling. Who?
WHO is going to do the fighting to guarantee Ukraine's security?
The account you're currently posting from has 16k posts. How many of those posts would you say involves insulting someone? Your Badcompany account was exactly the same (did that one get banned?)
I appreciate you don't seem to be capable of introspection, but at some point you really should have a think and maybe come to the conclusion that perhaps you're the problem.
You're insulting me as you try to lecture me about insults.
A more intelligent person would see the irony.
And again... I'm very hurt by your insults... you should be very proud. Congratulations.
WHO is going to do the fighting to guarantee Ukraine's security?
Not a question they are willing think about and answer.
It’s a rhetorical question that shouldn’t be answered. If nobody is fighting for Ukraine, Russia wouldn’t have already taken Kyiv and captured Zelenskyy. There would be no drama, and no need for any peace deal.
Putin trusts that Trump won't bend over for him like Biden and Obama.
Putin tested Trump in Syria and Trump killed 400 Russians and took Russia out of the air space.
In response Putin did nothing.
Peace through strength is a thing.
Biden and Obama were weak and Putin walked all over them.
It's baffling that the left's actual position is that Putin only invaded other countries when Trump wasn't in office because Trump was his "b*tch".
Stop talking about how weak Biden and Obama are. Their election record against republicans are 3:0, sound victories chosen by the American people. Of course Putin would have chosen differently, but unfortunately Putin cannot vote.
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