Fat hurts wrote:
Pooer wrote:
Really? You didn't do a background check on him? Verify his identity? How do you know he is even a citizen or able to work legally in this country?
I've known him and his family for many years.
I assume you have his EIN.
Pauley wrote:
Flagpole definitely has taken it too far with his previous misogynistic comments and now with his recent comments about blacks and the poor.
BS to all of that.
Flagpole wrote:
Pauley wrote:
Flagpole definitely has taken it too far with his previous misogynistic comments and now with his recent comments about blacks and the poor.
BS to all of that.
Always the last to realize it. You should be ashamed of some of your comments toward certain groups of people.
GDP coming in at 2.1%.
I thought Trump was supposed to give us infinity percent growth?????
Fat hurts wrote:
SiIly WilIy wrote:
Trump actually won quite easily, with what, 306 electoral votes? He almost won Minnesota, too, if it weren't for stupid Gary Johnson. 306 to 232 is quite a defeat.
Tiny's EC victory ranks 46th out of 58 presidential elections. So it's near the bottom in terms of electoral college wins.
To name a few better than Trump's 306:
2008 Obama 365
2012 Obama 332
1992 Clinton 370
1996 Clinton 379
1964 Lyndon Johnson was sweating it but got 486
Reagan got 489 and 525
Bush 1 got 426 in 1988
In 1972 Nixon was so worried about getting re-elected that he ordered the Watergate break in.
And he went on to get 520 electoral votes
Imagine that. Nixon won 49 states but public sentiment soured so much on him that he was forced to resign because Republican Congressmen were in favor impeaching and convicting.
Trump squeaks by to win, has scandals and crimes and lies way, way worse than Nixon and today's Republicans are scared to cross him.
Pauley wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
BS to all of that.
Always the last to realize it. You should be ashamed of some of your comments toward certain groups of people.
BS.
Flagpole wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Every President in US History has been a racist.
While I disagree with that statement, what you are referring to there has nothing to do with racist presidents. It has to do only with the voters.
Let me be clear:
Any person (non-elected people) who currently supports Donald Trump, regardless of their own race or gender or sexual orientation or whatever, is one of two things:
1) JUST stupid.
2) Racist.
There are no other possibilities.
Nobody cares what you say, bruh. You've been wrong about this stuff for too long. You've been "Flagpoling" (as we call it in my running group) for over 3 years now.
Check this out from page 71 of this thread... what a jerk0ff:
"Flagpoling: When one makes foolish predictions with absolute certainty, goes into hiding when proven wrong and returns to pontificate again. That is Flagpoling. Don't do it boys and girls, otherwise risk endless ridicule.
Examples (posted by Flagpole):
"What polls will you cling to in 2020? Trump is not winning this election. For sure not. I can even give a chance percentage for Trump...not sure if I've told anyone here or not, but here it is...Trump has ZERO chance to win"
1) Hmm...we will see how much I know when Hillary easily wins this election. I am an expert on Presidential elections, so I do know what I'm talking about. You have no clue. Trump has ZERO chance to win.
2) Big crowds at rallies are not indicators for votes; they are not a criterion for determining who will win or not...and Hillary has been getting some very big crowds lately anyway.
3) You don't know a thing about polling or sampling or how Presidential elections are won. You have an Aunt who will vote for Trump in NH and bring some friends and family with her? Really, that's what you're going with? Her view count? You have to be making this up.
4) So hilarious that you think people aren't excited or motivated to vote for Hillary. Nevada's race is likely already over due to early-voting Democrats.
5) I said Hillary would win this from the very beginning, because all evidence says she will...the 13 keys are now in her favor too. I said this even when the Trump took a lead after the GOP convention and when Lichtman was saying his keys were pointing to Trump (they have now turned to Clinton). What matters in Presidential elections is the economy (decent now and not in recession), approval rating of current President (he is above 50% which bodes well for Clinton), and a few other things, but none of them have to do with big crowds. Trump is a circus, so of course he draws big crowds.
Just say it with me, because it will be appropriate when the returns come in..."Flagpole, you were right all along, and I was wrong." Acceptance is the first step to change...accept after the election that you were wrong in your baseless assumptions and then change by reading about Presidential elections and what factors make a candidate win or lose. Or, if you don't have the interest in that, just refrain from making comments the next time."
Take a look at comparison photos of newly elected Republicans vs Democrats in Congress:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/14/congress-diversity-democrats-republicans-photo#img-3
Compare the gender and racial makeup of each party.
Which party looks more like America today?
We know Trump wants to Make America White Again.
And his party looks a lot like the only people who were allowed to vote before 1860.
Racket wrote:
GDP coming in at 2.1%.
I thought Trump was supposed to give us infinity percent growth?????
Not only growth that he said would be 4% and even higher, but we'd have a wall, and not only a wall, but one Mexico would pay for, Hillary would be behind bars, Obamacare would be repealed and replaced. Those are the three main things he ran on in 2016. These aren't some small promises he made that an opponent would just bring up to have something to bring up, these were his MAIN points! Whipped his supporters up into a frenzy over those things:
"Lock her up!"
"And who's going to pay for that wall?" "MEXICO!!!" "You better believe it."
"Repealing and replacing Obamacare will be so easy. So easy."
He also said he would wipe out the national debt in 8 years. That was lunacy, and of course he hasn't even knocked it down but increased it.
So, he was interesting as a candidate in 2016. He had the outsider vibe so many were attracted to. He was a "successful" businessman.
BUT, we have learned more about him since then.
1) His three main promises mentioned above have NOT come true. He even had the House and Senate the first 2 years and couldn't do any of it.
2) We found out that NO, he wasn't going to be able to get rid of the national debt in 8 years.
3) We found out that NO, he wasn't this great businessman most of the world thought he was.
4) We have seen his attacks on our democracy with repeated attacks on our press, our judges, and anyone with any power to question him.
5) He has said outrageously racist things, taking him from "yeah, he's probably racist" to "yep...he's a full-on racist."
6) He cozies up to dictators...MURDEROUS dictators. Ridiculous. He has given Kim Jong Un legitimacy by meeting with him despite no concessions by Kim Jong Un and no movement toward anything positive for the US and our allies.
7) He has lied at an outrageous unfathomable rate.
8) He has proven NOT to be a fiscal conservative...really the ONLY thing that is admirable about traditional conservative (stated) values. I say "stated" because Republicans don't really walk the walk on that and more than Democrats have.
9) He has proven he is NOT a Christian. Has said he never has to ask for forgiveness, is Mr. Two Corinthians. Now, I couldn't care less if he is a Christian or not, but many Christians do care, and he is clearly NOT one. You can't just say you are and be one.
So, since Trump hasn't even come CLOSE to accomplishing his three main goals, why in the world would anyone who voted for him STILL support him today?
There are only two reasons:
1) JUST stupid. Why would you support someone who doesn't accomplish the things he said he would do that got you to vote for him in the first place?
2) Racist. Trump is a racist. He repeats racist tropes. He is lauded by racists. Now, ALL racists are stupid, but some of those who support Trump do so because of the racism, not necessarily the stupidity.
There are no other possibilities.
SiIly WilIy wrote:
Nobody cares what you say, bruh. [and then proceeds to copy stuff I have said]
Kind of shot yourself in the foot there, brother, because apparently YOU care what I say.
Flagpole wrote:
SiIly WilIy wrote:
Nobody cares what you say, bruh. [and then proceeds to copy stuff I have said]
Kind of shot yourself in the foot there, brother, because apparently YOU care what I say.
Two Sides wrote:
Which party looks more like America today?
We know Trump wants to Make America White Again.
And his party looks a lot like the only people who were allowed to vote before 1860.
Testy Westy
EIN wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I've known him and his family for many years.
I assume you have his EIN.
Why would I need it? You don't ask for an EIN when you hire someone to perform a service at your house unless you are the one employing that person. He has his own business. It's no different from hiring a plumber or an electrician.
Fat hurts wrote:
EIN wrote:
I assume you have his EIN.
Why would I need it? You don't ask for an EIN when you hire someone to perform a service at your house unless you are the one employing that person. He has his own business. It's no different from hiring a plumber or an electrician.
The part about opening a bank account isn't really true. You have to verify your identity in someway to open a bank account at a legit FDIC bank. And most employers will ask you to verify your identity with some form of ID unless they're intentionally trying to hire illegal immigrants.
Not having some form of ID is a big drawback and a lot of poor people don't have one. The actual solution is to make sure that everyone has easy and free access to getting a government issued ID instead of pretending like you can get by perfectly fine without one. The problem is that Republicans don't want that either (for obvious reasons) so they make sure that DMVs or courthouses have the most inconvenient times ever.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Pauley wrote:
Flagpole definitely has taken it too far with his previous misogynistic comments and now with his recent comments about blacks and the poor.
#BanFlagpoleNow
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAIF-9eX4AAlBna?format=jpg&name=medium
Since Flagpole said if you support Trump you are either:
1) racist
2) stupid
Since most liberals here say blacks can't be racist, all the blacks supporting Trump are just stupid, according to Flagpole. Flagpole thinks all black supporters of Trump are simply stupid.
Racket wrote:
GDP coming in at 2.1%.
I thought Trump was supposed to give us infinity percent growth?????
It’s a good thing he at least kept his promise to wipe out our national debt.
You can show anecdotal pictures but this is how elections show by party.
SiIly WilIy wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
While I disagree with that statement, what you are referring to there has nothing to do with racist presidents. It has to do only with the voters.
Let me be clear:
Any person (non-elected people) who currently supports Donald Trump, regardless of their own race or gender or sexual orientation or whatever, is one of two things:
1) JUST stupid.
2) Racist.
There are no other possibilities.
Nobody cares what you say, bruh. You've been wrong about this stuff for too long. You've been "Flagpoling" (as we call it in my running group) for over 3 years now.
Check this out from page 71 of this thread... what a jerk0ff:
"Flagpoling: When one makes foolish predictions with absolute certainty, goes into hiding when proven wrong and returns to pontificate again. That is Flagpoling. Don't do it boys and girls, otherwise risk endless ridicule.
Examples (posted by Flagpole):
"What polls will you cling to in 2020? Trump is not winning this election. For sure not. I can even give a chance percentage for Trump...not sure if I've told anyone here or not, but here it is...Trump has ZERO chance to win"
1) Hmm...we will see how much I know when Hillary easily wins this election. I am an expert on Presidential elections, so I do know what I'm talking about. You have no clue. Trump has ZERO chance to win.
2) Big crowds at rallies are not indicators for votes; they are not a criterion for determining who will win or not...and Hillary has been getting some very big crowds lately anyway.
3) You don't know a thing about polling or sampling or how Presidential elections are won. You have an Aunt who will vote for Trump in NH and bring some friends and family with her? Really, that's what you're going with? Her view count? You have to be making this up.
4) So hilarious that you think people aren't excited or motivated to vote for Hillary. Nevada's race is likely already over due to early-voting Democrats.
5) I said Hillary would win this from the very beginning, because all evidence says she will...the 13 keys are now in her favor too. I said this even when the Trump took a lead after the GOP convention and when Lichtman was saying his keys were pointing to Trump (they have now turned to Clinton). What matters in Presidential elections is the economy (decent now and not in recession), approval rating of current President (he is above 50% which bodes well for Clinton), and a few other things, but none of them have to do with big crowds. Trump is a circus, so of course he draws big crowds.
Just say it with me, because it will be appropriate when the returns come in..."Flagpole, you were right all along, and I was wrong." Acceptance is the first step to change...accept after the election that you were wrong in your baseless assumptions and then change by reading about Presidential elections and what factors make a candidate win or lose. Or, if you don't have the interest in that, just refrain from making comments the next time."
Flagpole said NONE of those things, '
You should be banned for posting LIES!
