Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Sally Vix wrote:

Please explain to me how you can do anything without a photo ID. I am not talking about being Joe Dirt and living in a trailer park all day long. I am talking about having a job, commuting to work, earning a paycheck, having taxes taken out of your paycheck, voting, having a bank account, and doing everything else required to be a part of society.

Newsflash from NYC - there is a large part of the population in my area that do not have photo IDs. They don't need to drive because of public transport, so they never needed to get a license. Those that have not left the country have expired passports so there goes that. There are other, no photo documents such as birth certificate that allow you to be part of and function in society. I know it must be hard for you, but you should really try to think before you post.

... pay cash and you can buy even more things without any ID, let alone a photo ID[/quote]

Smorbun wrote:

Sure, you can do trivial stuff like that. How can you function in society?

Are you daft? People cannot function in society if they pay cash for everything and do not have a photo ID, which is not required for most cash exchanges). You cannot be that stupid.

Please answer: Can you buy cryptocurrencies without a photo ID?

Motor Voter wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Since we are talking about how people live without an ID, it's relevant that nothing on that list actually requires a photo ID except to legally drive a car, and arguably "Purchase nail polish at CVS".

I'm pretty sure you can do everything else, one way or another, without an ID.

I can't vote without an id. I can't buy alcohol or cigarettes without an id. I can't buy sudafed either without one.

The point is that it's pretty easy to get those things without an ID. Just get somebody else to buy them for you.

Sally Vix wrote:

Please explain to me how you can do anything without a photo ID. I am not talking about being Joe Dirt and living in a trailer park all day long. I am talking about having a job, commuting to work, earning a paycheck, having taxes taken out of your paycheck, voting, having a bank account, and doing everything else required to be a part of society.

News flash. About 20 million people live in trailer parks. They are part of society. The ones who live there without a photo ID should be allowed to vote.

Flagpole wrote:

wowzerz wrote:

wow. just wow.

How is that a "wow. just wow."?

Many of the things that typically require a photo ID are things that are not necessary. There are people who live their whole lives, often due to poverty, who never drive a car legally if at all or take a plane ride or rent a car or whatever. They live in the same run-down house their great grandmother owned, and on and on. Truth.

You obviously don't understand the idiocy of your initial statement.

You don't need an ID to rent a house. My father-in-law has a couple of low end rental homes on the edge of his property. He never has them sign a lease or show ID. It's a small town where people know each other. Everything is done on a handshake. As long as they pay the rent and take care of the place they can stay.

I've told him he should use a lease to protect himself but he has been doing it that way for years and never had a problem.

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Please explain to me how you can do anything without a photo ID. I am not talking about being Joe Dirt and living in a trailer park all day long. I am talking about having a job, commuting to work, earning a paycheck, having taxes taken out of your paycheck, voting, having a bank account, and doing everything else required to be a part of society.

News flash. About 20 million people live in trailer parks. They are part of society. The ones who live there without a photo ID should be allowed to vote.

agip wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Please explain to me how you can do anything without a photo ID. I am not talking about being Joe Dirt and living in a trailer park all day long. I am talking about having a job, commuting to work, earning a paycheck, having taxes taken out of your paycheck, voting, having a bank account, and doing everything else required to be a part of society.

it doesn't matter, vixxer. millions of eligible voters don't have photo ID and that's all we need to know here,

If it were a requirement to vote, I suspect they would make it a priority to get one. Not having one is not the same as being unable to get one. I'm sure if they wanted to drive a car, they would get a license.

Sally Vix wrote:

Earth 2 Sally wrote:

... you can buy food

... gasoline

... you can buy buy most things

... pay cash and you can buy even more things without any ID, let alone a photo ID

Just to follow up, one who has no ID can ...

1) Not drive

2) Not rent or own a house

3) Not have a bank account

4) not have a credit card

5) not vote

Most important, 6) you can't have a job!

Will keep it to those 6 for now. Who can function today with not being able to do those 5 things? You can't drive. So you ride around on a bike. You don't own a house or rent so you sponge off a parent or friend. You don't have a bank account so you carry cash with you. You can't even have real job! How can you survive without having a job?

You can do all those things without a photo ID except drive.

Like the other poster said, are they incapable of getting an ID or just don't have one.

Plus, an expired gov't issue ID is an acceptable form of ID for voting in my state, All someone has to do is get 1 gov't issued photo ID in their life in order to vote. If that's too difficult for you to do, Lord help you.

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Just to follow up, one who has no ID can ...

1) Not drive

2) Not rent or own a house

3) Not have a bank account

4) not have a credit card

5) not vote

Most important, 6) you can't have a job!

Will keep it to those 6 for now. Who can function today with not being able to do those 5 things? You can't drive. So you ride around on a bike. You don't own a house or rent so you sponge off a parent or friend. You don't have a bank account so you carry cash with you. You can't even have real job! How can you survive without having a job?

You can do all those things without a photo ID except drive.

How can you legally drive without an ID? You can't. You are breaking the law. You can have a ma-and-pop operation which allows you to rent without an ID but 99% of places require an ID. You DO need an ID to buy a home. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous. You DO need an ID to have a bank account. You DO need an ID to have a credit card. You DO need an ID to have a real job.

Ladies here ...

Would you ever date someone with no car, no driver's license, no apartment or house of his or her own, no bank account, no credit card, no real job and who has never voted?

Appalachia wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

News flash. About 20 million people live in trailer parks. They are part of society. The ones who live there without a photo ID should be allowed to vote.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/21/18230009/voter-id-laws-fraud-turnout-study-research

They also have little impact on turnout...so there's that.

You are an ignorant fool. You can buy a house without a photo ID. You can inherit a house without a photo ID. You do not need credit. Credit is only necessary if you are going to borrow money from reputable sources. You do not need a bank account. What do you think those Check Cashing stores are for? You do not need a photo ID to get a credit card, and you do not need a photo ID to charge a meal at a restaurant. And, of course, you could pay cash at that restaurant or not go to the restaurant at all. Millions of Americans do not go to college or take a plane ride. You do not need a photo ID to receive public assistance. You do not need a photo ID to ride a bus or get most jobs. There are tons of people in this country, typically below the poverty line, who do not have photo ID. Every day you show people here how uneducated you are. It's jolting. I participate in a few different message boards on different topics, and you are the most ignorant poster on any of them that I have ever seen.[/quote]

Why would you not need a photo ID to receive public assistance? Ever hear of fraud? Let's make it as easy as possible to defraud the government. I need a photo ID for pretty much everything. Why would one who receives public assistance not need to accurately verify who he or she is?

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Just to follow up, one who has no ID can ...

1) Not drive

You can do all those things without a photo ID except drive.

Who checks the photo ID of every person who is driving? No one. Follow the driving laws and you will never be stopped and asked to show an ID.

photo ID wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

You can do all those things without a photo ID except drive.

Who checks the photo ID of every person who is driving? No one. Follow the driving laws and you will never be stopped and asked to show an ID.

Hey, Einstein. If you don't have a photo ID, you are not following the driving laws. You are supposed to have in your possession when operating a motor vehicle. Did you really think this through?

Any Thing wrote:

... pay cash and you can buy even more things without any ID, let alone a photo ID

Smorbun wrote:

Sure, you can do trivial stuff like that. How can you function in society?

Are you daft? People cannot function in society if they pay cash for everything and do not have a photo ID, which is not required for most cash exchanges). You cannot be that stupid.

Please answer: Can you buy cryptocurrencies without a photo ID?[/quote]

Sally wrote that, not me.

Newsflash wrote:

Plus, an expired gov't issue ID is an acceptable form of ID for voting in my state, All someone has to do is get 1 gov't issued photo ID in their life in order to vote. If that's too difficult for you to do, Lord help you.

To get a real photo ID you need specific paperwork. An existing government issued photo ID (Catch 22). And a new version of your birth certificate (original versions are not acceptable; and if the hospital you were born in has never made digitized records you cannot get an updated birth certificate).

Of those one is impossible if you never had a photo ID (school photo IDs are not acceptable). The second is impossible if you were born at a small hospital with shoddy record.

Billy Bob wrote:

agip wrote:

it doesn't matter, vixxer. millions of eligible voters don't have photo ID and that's all we need to know here,

If it were a requirement to vote, I suspect they would make it a priority to get one. Not having one is not the same as being unable to get one. I'm sure if they wanted to drive a car, they would get a license.

It's not always easy to get one. That's what most of the court cases have been about.

photo ID wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

You can do all those things without a photo ID except drive.

Who checks the photo ID of every person who is driving? No one. Follow the driving laws and you will never be stopped and asked to show an ID.

Ummmm. Traffic laws include having a valid drivers license.

How can I not have a license AND follow all the traffic laws?