As for the London Marathon, I'd like to learn from those familiar with the course the approximate mile markers for each batch of photo that Rob Young appears in. Maybe someone who ran the race can list the photo points.
http://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=85E840&LastName=YOUNG
I count 13 locations aside from the pre-race photo. Were there more photo locations? What photo points missed Rob, if any?
I still think Rob did a show pony run while someone else ran with his timing chip.
Anyone able to code up a UI for this?
I think it'd be awesome to be able to define a parameter (sub-xx pace), and have it highlight the sections on the map upon mouseover or something.
Lord Wanker wrote:
New footage of Rob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGX4JdtQi8
that's racist!
Ultra List Tracking wrote:
Easy there sonny, the Geezers took care of it with all their high tech gear:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3f431SkGo_MTFZ3VVlsM1JuZ00/view?usp=sharingThey'll have the pictures to be developed soon.
and someone finally puts boots on the ground for LRC
In the london results, it's easy to match them up since the results show the time of day, not just the race time.
The pics on the bottom row with #1017 in red as they turned right around a corner must have been around 15K.
The pics with #30445 must have been around 20K since they both have 11:27:54 as a time stamp for 20K.
printer wrote:
As for the London Marathon, I'd like to learn from those familiar with the course the approximate mile markers for each batch of photo that Rob Young appears in. Maybe someone who ran the race can list the photo points.
http://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=85E840&LastName=YOUNGI count 13 locations aside from the pre-race photo. Were there more photo locations? What photo points missed Rob, if any?
I still think Rob did a show pony run while someone else ran with his timing chip.
Well, it appears that any fellow runner in Rob's pictures has similar splits. I can't see where he slipped in or out of the race. It does look like he threw away a sub 3 run to do an interview. That, I don't get.
Also, pretty sure that second row with the big red banner and the clock is at 26.2 miles.
printer wrote:
Well, it appears that any fellow runner in Rob's pictures has similar splits. I can't see where he slipped in or out of the race. It does look like he threw away a sub 3 run to do an interview. That, I don't get.
I think he exaggerated afterward, saying it was a 20 minute interview to make his time look better. His splits for 30K and 35K and the brief 2.2K at the end look fairly consistent. It's the 40K split that looks about 5-7 minutes long. So if he did an interview, probably no more than 5-7 minutes at most. And yeah, looks like he ruined his chance to get near sub-3. Will be interesting to see what he runs at Berlin and Chicago if he does so.
printer wrote:
printer wrote:As for the London Marathon, I'd like to learn from those familiar with the course the approximate mile markers for each batch of photo that Rob Young appears in. Maybe someone who ran the race can list the photo points.
http://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=85E840&LastName=YOUNGI count 13 locations aside from the pre-race photo. Were there more photo locations? What photo points missed Rob, if any?
I still think Rob did a show pony run while someone else ran with his timing chip.
Well, it appears that any fellow runner in Rob's pictures has similar splits. I can't see where he slipped in or out of the race. It does look like he threw away a sub 3 run to do an interview. That, I don't get.
2:58 don't make money, but bullshite PR does
The LRC message board is truly the urine sample of the Internet.
It ain't an official record until you pee into our cup!
RYinvestigator wrote:
His book is full of ***:
http://imgur.com/a/VAiM2
Hey fella, you don't spoil a good story with the truth.
Regards
Dustin
Hey Dustin, what does Coach Sausage Roll Kev have to say about this? He's been really quiet lately.
curiously interested wrote:
For his first run, in the book he clearly describes running 4 unequal loops in Richmond Park. But on mapmyrun, for his first run, it's point to point. The route starts in Twickenham, goes 3/4 of the way around Richmond Park, goes out towards London, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
Listen you idiots I verified those runs, along with Joanna, it says so in the book which Dustin ghost wrote (you know, that Dustin Brooks of East Sheen who publishes children's books).
Regards
Eva
Writer of Children's Books
East Sheen
http://mysheenvillage.com/just-kids-magazine/books-for-children/an-interview-with-eva-katzler/Hey Rob Arvie, you got a friend:
I made GPX files based on the TomTom data provided for the big day in CO. Those BS screenshots actually don't account for tons of miles. Good visualization here:
I don't think this is revealing any smoking gun or anything, so probably not gonna go through all of them.
ImACoachSeriously wrote:
Hey Dustin, what does Coach Sausage Roll Kev have to say about this? He's been really quiet lately.
4:00am in UK at the moment, so Kev's currently tossing and turning and having his worst nightmare, unfortunately he's going to wake up soon and discovery it's real life and all true, same goes for Andy.
This thread moves proportionally to the RV...
Asher Delmott wrote:
Robert Young, or Marathon Man, is currently attempting to break the record for fastest crossing of the USA on foot. (His website:
http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk/fastest-crossing-of-america-usa-on-foot/)
I went out to to run a few miles with him since I thought he would be lonely running at 1:00 am in the middle of nowhere Kansas, and I thought it would be cool to be a part of something big like this. Below is my account of realizing this guy is faking it:
I wanted to run for a couple miles with the guy running across America, since I saw he was coming very near Lebo. I saw he was within 10 miles of Lebo, so I got in my car to find exactly how far away he was. I started driving west on old highway 50 from Lebo, and eventually passed an RV going east with an American flag on the back corner of the vehicle. I recognized that as the runner's RV, but I did not see anyone running. I thought the runner might have another support vehicle further back, so I kept driving. After a couple of miles, I checked his live tracking, and saw that the runner was indeed east of me. I took a screenshot of where the map said he was, then drove down the road. When I got close to the RV, I started filming, and still did not see a runner. They did not have hazard lights until I got somewhat close behind them. I decided to get out of my car at the next intersection to stand on the south side of the RV to get a better view. The next intersection was a main road, so I turned toward Lebo, and parked a block down the road. I ran back to old highway 50 and started going toward the RV. I didn't want them to stop before I got to them, so I ran up next to a house, and watched as the RV drove by with no runner in sight. I also took a screenshot of the map and took a video of the RV driving by. After it drove by, I ran into the highway, turned on my headlamp to strobe mode, and started running behind the RV. It was driving running speed, so I was making progress, but they saw my light and stopped. Someone got out of the passenger side of the RV, but when I got closer they got back in, and the RV drove off too fast for me to follow on foot. I ran back to my car, then drove to the highway. By that time, the RV had returned to the intersection of Fauna road and old highway 50. Someone was standing outside the RV, but I just drove past it heading east. I parked on the south side of the next intersection, and again, waited for the RV to pass. While waiting, I looked at the live tracking, and saw where the RV had driven away, and then come back, so I took a screenshot of that. I waited in my car for a few more minutes, and as the RV approached, I took another screenshot, and then another video* as the RV drove by once again without anyone running beside it.
*note: I turned my camera from vertical to horizontal around the two minute mark, so you have to turn your head 90 degrees to the left to see the RV driving by (or understand it is driving from bottom of the screen to the top).
All of the screenshots and the first two videos are shared in Google Drive at:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0i6cerKgSc0cjdjMFQ3NW1JY1EUnfortunately, they don’t show my location in relation to Rob’s, but I think I have location services turned on with my phone, so someone should have access to that data. The final video, I am having trouble sharing it any other way than Google Photos, so that link is:
https://goo.gl/photos/oK8L339ndAqJFZiPAI realize it is dark, so the videos don’t show a whole lot, but here are some points to consider.
1) The highway he was running on has no shoulder, so he likely would have been running in front of the RV in order to use its lights, and to keep safe from cars. Cars behind would see the RV and avoid it, while cars in front would see him in the headlights, as well as the RV. Rob does not appear in the headlights of any of my videos. If he did choose to run in the grass on the side of the road, I expect he would use a headlamp or flashlight, but again, there is no sign of a light other than those on the RV. The first video shows he was not running behind the RV, or in the oncoming traffic lane.
2) In my first video, you can also see the hazard lights of the RV turn on as I drive up from behind. It seems like support vehicles usually drive with their hazard lights on the whole time, but it makes sense that this group wouldn’t if they are trying to avoid drawing attention to themselves.
3) Also, see his recent blog post where Nancy Bennett attempted to run with him at night, and we unable to see him until the vehicle stopped (allowing him to exit the vehicle). It would be interesting to get her input on her experience compared to mine. The blog explains that Rob was just on the other side of the RV, but my multiple attempts allowed me to see all sides of the RV to ensure I did not just miss him on the other side (unless he is running circles around the RV).
I am convinced that Robert is not completing all of the distance on foot, and I understand my screenshots and videos cannot definitively prove it, but I think it at least warrants a very close inspection of his attempt if he is to be awarded recognition for this. Maybe other people have an experience and/or evidence that also indicates he is not running the whole distance.
Not sure if this was ever mentioned. But I'd just like to point out that in the screenshot dump of TomTom data from RY, the time of this incident is not accounted for. There is on June 4, 10:22PM for 1:32, then a run on June 5, 3:37AM. Nothing for this.
I'm waiting for the inevitable Facebook post by Rob & crew stating that they have gone several hundred miles down the road, with a new RV in order to ditch all the negative haters.
Now Rob is able to focus solely on running, back up to 80+ miles per day, even with his badly injured foot. A true hero.
Bob Hearn wrote:
Maker_of_Website wrote:I made a post about RY's desert day. I'm not sure I've read every single post here, but AFAIK this is the most concrete cheating data for the transcon.
I need to get a life now, but if Blogger allows access for others to post or someone else wants to help make this a hub for analyses, contact me. That google doc y'all made is great though. Just though this could be a nice format to link off to if people are contacting media, etc etc.
http://ryinvestigation.blogspot.comNo offense, but I'd be more inclined to read the whole thing if I could make it past the first sentence without a grammatical error. Just my 2 cents.
Good work. In your header artwork, beneath "Robert Young Investigation" put an acknowledgement along the lines of "data and photos provided by contributors to the LetsRun.com Messageboard" and perhaps a sticky link to the thread at the top.
Howard Dean wrote:
A true hero.
A hero, yes, to some idiots anyway.
True, not so much.