"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

trashcan wrote:

joed|rte wrote:

Here is data from Israel.

https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general?utm_source=go.gov.il&utm_medium=referral

They have three vaccination categories: unvaccinated, vaccinated and vaccinated without validity. These are the same three categories as the UK and Canada, except those vaccinations they cannot validate are thrown into the unlinked category.

The reference in the UK data reads: Individuals whose NHS numbers were unavailable to link to the NIMS (National Immunization System of Record).

Based on the NHS reference the proper way to handle it is to say “we don’t know” and not associate it with either category.

Which is what they do in the UK, Canada and Israel, but not in the US. In the US, it goes into the unvaccinated bin (and the unknowns are far higher in the US because they don't have the centralized data). Which is why the US vaccine numbers look so much better than anywhere else.

joed|rte wrote:

trashcan wrote:

Based on the NHS reference the proper way to handle it is to say “we don’t know” and not associate it with either category.

Which is what they do in the UK, Canada and Israel, but not in the US. In the US, it goes into the unvaccinated bin (and the unknowns are far higher in the US because they don't have the centralized data). Which is why the US vaccine numbers look so much better than anywhere else.

This thread is filled with posts that show excellent efficacy against hospitalization and death outside the US... what are you smoking?

You've gone to new depths to ignore/exclude/rationalize any data that doesnt confirm your inane priors.

2600 bro wrote:

joed|rte wrote:

Which is what they do in the UK, Canada and Israel, but not in the US. In the US, it goes into the unvaccinated bin (and the unknowns are far higher in the US because they don't have the centralized data). Which is why the US vaccine numbers look so much better than anywhere else.

This thread is filled with posts that show excellent efficacy against hospitalization and death outside the US... what are you smoking?

You've gone to new depths to ignore/exclude/rationalize any data that doesnt confirm your inane priors.

I mean if you take the NHS data as dependable (I would) then you were talking about a 90+ percent protection against death once adjusted for age. Yes, other data looks better. Nothing really looks worse, and that is incredibly valuable.

Obviously herd immunity is out the window and it will only slow the spread a bit, but that hospitalization and death reduction is very valuable.

joed|rte wrote:

Which is what they do in the UK, Canada and Israel, but not in the US. In the US, it goes into the unvaccinated bin (and the unknowns are far higher in the US because they don't have the centralized data). Which is why the US vaccine numbers look so much better than anywhere else.

If the vaccines have any efficacy at all, which they clearly do, putting "unknowns" that are really vaccinated in the "unvaccinated" bin would make the vaccine efficacy look worse not better. That's just math.

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

joed|rte wrote:

Which is what they do in the UK, Canada and Israel, but not in the US. In the US, it goes into the unvaccinated bin (and the unknowns are far higher in the US because they don't have the centralized data). Which is why the US vaccine numbers look so much better than anywhere else.

If the vaccines have any efficacy at all, which they clearly do, putting "unknowns" that are really vaccinated in the "unvaccinated" bin would make the vaccine efficacy look worse not better. That's just math.

No, putting cases, hospitalizations and deaths that are vaccinated of individuals who are really vaccinated in with the unvaccinated only affects the numerator. It doesn’t affect the denominator at all. They know how many first, second and third shots have been administered, they just can’t connect the data.

2600 bro wrote:

joed|rte wrote:

Which is what they do in the UK, Canada and Israel, but not in the US. In the US, it goes into the unvaccinated bin (and the unknowns are far higher in the US because they don't have the centralized data). Which is why the US vaccine numbers look so much better than anywhere else.

This thread is filled with posts that show excellent efficacy against hospitalization and death outside the US... what are you smoking?

You've gone to new depths to ignore/exclude/rationalize any data that doesnt confirm your inane priors.

The data from other nations with better data reveals that the reality of the situation is about 4 times worse for the vaccinated than the rosy picture painted by the cdc and liberal state governments.

For young individuals such as yourself (I’m assuming you are young based on the sophomoric nature of your posts), the risks are exceedingly minor and excess deaths in your age group have been unaffected through the pandemic. Additionally, there is no statistical basis that suggests vaccinated immunity is in any way superior to acquired immunity other in the risk faced when the individual acquired the immunity in the first place. As such, vaccine mandates should exempt those under 25 and those with a previous infection. Omicron has revealed that mandates should not exist at all, as vaccinated individuals are just as likely to act as vectors of disease as the unvaccinated (data from the uk and Canada suggests they are more likely to).

Vaccine mandates reduce load on the healthcare system, which has repeatedly been stressed, exclusively by antivaxxers, several times in 2021.

Vaccines are exceedingly safe and very effective. You would be better of railing against some other perceived injustice than vaccines.

BTW most data reports ~90% efficacy against Omicron hospitalzation. That's what the UK reports. NY State. Ontario. Plenty others. Your claims are just not backed up by data. That's been the repeated story of your push to manifest 'vaccine failure.' It just isn't happening. Oh well, always the next variant for your dreams of mass death to come true?

CDC booster data is in and WOW.

Look at those death numbers.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

Lol

2600 bro wrote:

CDC booster data is in and WOW.

Look at those death numbers.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

Pandemic of the unvaccinated rages on

Regeneron, which makes monclonal antibodies, says they don't work against Omicron.

Ron Desantis is falsely saying they do and has been pumping it for 8 months across Florida instead of promoting vaccinations and boosters. He refuses to say if he has the booster.

Citadel owns $16 million of Regeneron stock.. Citadel CEO is DeSantis biggest donor at $11 million.

These are all coincidences. Nothing to see here.

Harambe wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

CDC booster data is in and WOW.

Look at those death numbers.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

Pandemic of the unvaccinated rages on

Spoken like a true foot soldier for the industry! Lol. Revised version is now the pandemic of the vaccinated:

"In Every Country Worldwide; The More You Vaccinate, The Greater The Infection Rate."

Your circus act is over - you're just rearranging the deck chairs of the Titanic. Lol.🤪

Here's what everybody on this thread, at least the main kooks really need, warning it's not a mask or shot.

https://thepsychologygroup.com/ruminating-thoughts-and-anxiety/

The "Stress" is over. We are doing fine. Time to move on and focus on Evil Russia or Evil Ukraine. This will be an interesting situation for our POTUS and his business connections to both. And he is demented. We are effed.

pandemic monitor wrote:

Regeneron, which makes monclonal antibodies, says they don't work against Omicron.

Ron Desantis is falsely saying they do and has been pumping it for 8 months across Florida instead of promoting vaccinations and boosters. He refuses to say if he has the booster.

Citadel owns $16 million of Regeneron stock.. Citadel CEO is DeSantis biggest donor at $11 million.

These are all coincidences. Nothing to see here.

Lol. Nice job liberal protégé. Falsely attack the better qualified candidate that can unseat you. Shouldn't be that hard to beat an old white, racist, demented male.#GL

pandemic monitor wrote:

Regeneron, which makes monclonal antibodies, says they don't work against Omicron.

Ron Desantis is falsely saying they do and has been pumping it for 8 months across Florida instead of promoting vaccinations and boosters. He refuses to say if he has the booster.

Citadel owns $16 million of Regeneron stock.. Citadel CEO is DeSantis biggest donor at $11 million.

These are all coincidences. Nothing to see here.

Right wingers are an interesting species. Most of them get happier the more covid deaths they see - DeathSantis included - especially if jt means they can continue grifting off it; but some right wingers like Trump have enough brain cells to see that the strategy of coddling antivaxxers to own the libs is backfiring on them.

Most are not “anti vaxxers” but most are anti MANDATE. Most could care less whether someone else gets a vax. Especially a vax with no long term studies. Only the insane care about what other people decide to put in their bodies. I really hope you covid vax mandate nazis get the mental help you so desperately need.

2600 bro wrote:

CDC booster data is in and WOW.

Look at those death numbers.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

Pandemic of the unvaccinated continues to be confirmed.

Unvaccinated four times likely to test positive and fifteen times more likely to die.

But the idiots will continue to idiot on.

Quacks wrote:

I really hope you covid vax mandate nazis get the mental help you so desperately need.

There they go. The softest, most delusional, group of people in the history of American culture. Equating this to nazi Germany, You might want to read a book partner.