Back to what this thread is about, my training at now age 66 and trying for to run a sub 20 min 5 k one more time in my life.
I had a good maxVO2 interval today at the gym and 15 × 400m @ pace 4:57 min / km . Easy walk rest 1 min between the first 5 reps, 90 sec between the second 5 reps and 2 min rests between the 5 last reps. No problems and a good workout.
Tomorrow an easy steady run again. 🧙♂️
An older man living in a fantasy world, claims for weeks he is able to run a 5 k in 25:00.
Doesn't knows his max heartrate but guess it's around 190.
Blows up at his 5k TT with a (max) heartrate at 173.
Then says he went out on 5:18 because he finally understood his false claim.
No matter what, there is always an excuse for it.
It's not even that interesting he's running a 25minute 5 k, a 24-23-22-21-20 minute 5 k.
Back to what this thread is about, my training at now age 66 and trying for to run a sub 20 min 5 k one more time in my life.
I had a good maxVO2 interval today at the gym and 15 × 400m @ pace 4:57 min / km . Easy walk rest 1 min between the first 5 reps, 90 sec between the second 5 reps and 2 min rests between the 5 last reps. No problems and a good workout.
Tomorrow an easy steady run again. 🧙♂️
An older man living in a fantasy world, claims for weeks he is able to run a 5 k in 25:00.
Doesn't knows his max heartrate but guess it's around 190.
Blows up at his 5k TT with a (max) heartrate at 173.
Then says he went out on 5:18 because he finally understood his false claim.
No matter what, there is always an excuse for it.
It's not even that interesting he's running a 25minute 5 k, a 24-23-22-21-20 minute 5 k.
Only for him and his sidekick's ego's.
Well, maybe not interesting for you, but it looks so interesting for you that you spend time writing about it .... ? 🤔🤣
And I didn't blow up at the 26:30 TT . It was 5:18 min/ km all the way. Next time I will try to cut a half minute and go for 26:00 ( 5:12 min/ km.
What does my very good and fast hair growth have to do to this thread?? Since that photo I cut my hair and soon I will visit the barber shop again. I'm happy I have very good hair growth at my age 66.And I like and are used to long hairstyle. I think it suits me and the women I easily pull looks to like it too, ahaha! 😉 🙏🧙♂️🇸🇪
What does my very good and fast hair growth have to do to this thread?? Since that photo I cut my hair and soon I will visit the barber shop again. I'm happy I have very good hair growth at my age 66.And I like and are used to long hairstyle. I think it suits me and the women I easily pull looks to like it too, ahaha! 😉 🙏🧙♂️🇸🇪
Today another 63 min easy steady run to the endurance account. Nice and easy. Tomorrow a 'potent' threshold interval again . 🇸🇪🧙♂️🇸🇪
It's correct what you say I didn't reach my potential at the marathon, and infact never at the other distances too. There were examples at this back then with guys I easily beat at 800m ( ran only one time 1:58) up to 10000m but at the marathon they had 2:12- 2:15...Why? I know now the main reason to be that they did already the nowadays popular lactate threshold intervals I didn't do. Instead I ran tempos 10-12 km and not at the needed faster paces to press down my lactate threshold enough.🧙♂️
Tragic JS in bold above.
also Tragic JS;
I myself as young ran 2:22:09 ( twice on the second! ) in Stockholm marathon on a difficult course with a method quite the same as the Dancan system of today.
I myself as young ran 2:22:09 ( twice on the second! ) in Stockholm marathon on a difficult course with a method quite the same as the Dancan system of today.
Remind me, what does 2 + 2 = ?
Unanswered. Placeholder.
He never answers when it's not convenient for him. There are countless examples in this thread alone.
He never answers when it's not convenient for him. There are countless examples in this thread alone.
I believe J.S. was on around 100 to 120 kilometers per week in his build up for that marathon mostly in singles but coach will correct me if I'm wrong on that. He was 6.2/165 at the time (1.88/72kg). Skinny. Abs visible. Nordic monster. Resembling a world class cross country skier.
Once again 2:22 for someone of his ability at that time, despite the minimalist shoes, was nowhere near what his potential could have been which I'm putting out in the 2:12.00 to 2:16.00 (he was beating Swedish runners in that range in other races) range minimum at that time. Teleported to today's era he might have become a sub 2:10.00 marathon runner. Respect.
Once again 2:22 for someone of his ability at that time, despite the minimalist shoes, was nowhere near what his potential could have been which I'm putting out in the 2:12.00 to 2:16.00
So, ran2 times 2:22, training quite the same as his the dancan, but his potential, as you stated, 2:12-2:16 (never mind the 2:10 joke).
He never answers when it's not convenient for him. There are countless examples in this thread alone.
I believe J.S. was on around 100 to 120 kilometers per week in his build up for that marathon mostly in singles but coach will correct me if I'm wrong on that. He was 6.2/165 at the time (1.88/72kg). Skinny. Abs visible. Nordic monster. Resembling a world class cross country skier.
Once again 2:22 for someone of his ability at that time, despite the minimalist shoes, was nowhere near what his potential could have been which I'm putting out in the 2:12.00 to 2:16.00 (he was beating Swedish runners in that range in other races) range minimum at that time. Teleported to today's era he might have become a sub 2:10.00 marathon runner. Respect.
Ghost you are just as delusional as Jan.
2:22 using the best possible training method for training, then suddenly became of shoes means he is a sub 2:10 runner. Does mean the great running then using their suboptimal method at the time with modern shoes were all 1:57 runners?
so the great runners now running 2:01/2:02 with Jan method would be running 1:55 right? Which would make Jans time hobby jogger elite.
Just accept that Jan is not the messiah, was a decent elite runner, but invented a training methodology which quite frankly is very suboptimal and a coin toss whether you improve or go backwards from your starting point depends on your fitness starting position.
Once again 2:22 for someone of his ability at that time, despite the minimalist shoes, was nowhere near what his potential could have been which I'm putting out in the 2:12.00 to 2:16.00
So, ran2 times 2:22, training quite the same as his the dancan, but his potential, as you stated, 2:12-2:16 (never mind the 2:10 joke).
Well ladies and gentleman, there you have it.
Thank you
ghost is too stupid to understand this sadly, and jan wont answer.
I believe J.S. was on around 100 to 120 kilometers per week in his build up for that marathon mostly in singles but coach will correct me if I'm wrong on that. He was 6.2/165 at the time (1.88/72kg). Skinny. Abs visible. Nordic monster. Resembling a world class cross country skier.
Once again 2:22 for someone of his ability at that time, despite the minimalist shoes, was nowhere near what his potential could have been which I'm putting out in the 2:12.00 to 2:16.00 (he was beating Swedish runners in that range in other races) range minimum at that time. Teleported to today's era he might have become a sub 2:10.00 marathon runner. Respect.
Ghost you are just as delusional as Jan.
2:22 using the best possible training method for training, then suddenly became of shoes means he is a sub 2:10 runner. Does mean the great running then using their suboptimal method at the time with modern shoes were all 1:57 runners?
so the great runners now running 2:01/2:02 with Jan method would be running 1:55 right? Which would make Jans time hobby jogger elite.
Just accept that Jan is not the messiah, was a decent elite runner, but invented a training methodology which quite frankly is very suboptimal and a coin toss whether you improve or go backwards from your starting point depends on your fitness starting position.
Once again, I never did the Dancan method back then at my prime. We can say I did a ' prototype' back then but nowadays the real effective successful the Dancan System that is extremely effective on low mileage training but also functions super on high mileage too of course. 🧙♂️
So, ran2 times 2:22, training quite the same as his the dancan, but his potential, as you stated, 2:12-2:16 (never mind the 2:10 joke).
Well ladies and gentleman, there you have it.
Thank you
ghost is too stupid to understand this sadly, and jan wont answer.
I ran 5000m 14:20 when the world record was still over 13 min, without super shoes of course. So, little more than one lap behind the world record ......