For over 30 years, the Kenyans and Ethiopians outperformed us on the track, on the roads and in cross-country— until they couldn't, any more. We finally rose to their level, beating them on the track and on [artificial] country roads. Today, we've caught up with them in the longest road distance race.
For over 30 years, the Kenyans and Ethiopians outperformed us on the track, on the roads and in cross-country— until they couldn't, any more. We finally rose to their level, beating them on the track and on [artificial] country roads. Today, we've caught up with them in the longest road distance race.
Go Uganda!
I root for Kiplimo. Seeing him seize up after the finish line and upchucking Maurten's even 5 minutes later was endearing. Could be wrong but gives me hope he's not doping. Ruth was running around with the flag 10 seconds later. Ran into someone's arms but never hit the ground.
Gotta say I expected a podium finish from Mantz. Masai kinda crushed him on the last mile.
Classy of Conner to say they helped each other and the moment of breaking the AR meant more to him because he got to run it with/against a guy he's known for a long time. And that Alex had a great PB himself. I think he's well-aware that third-place Kenyan is indistinguishable from another Kenyan to American media and general American audience so it was nice to see him give props and a little distinction to Masai.
John Korir to NYC next month perhaps?I reckon he was fit but just got his tactics wrong today.He revealed his plan too early to Kiplimo with the initial break after 1st half.Kiplimo is the ultimate competitor.Once John's plan was clear to him ,he chose the perfect time to attack too and he knew Korir was less experienced to deal with him.
I also think he was slightly distracted by Wesley Korir's marketing stuff.Perhaps they could have just focused on the race,then afterwards embark on their marketing activities.
I think if John is not injured,he should try NYC so as not to waste all the hard work and sacrifice.
The wheelchair commentator is very good at her job. Let me start with a compliment.
But we absolutely need to push back on her being allowed to use the team "Run." She will talk about how they are running a great race. No, they are not. They are wheeling it. This reminds me of the trans talk. Language has to be factual. If we don't have a society of facts, then we don't have a society
rojo, you make a post about how society should behave in a thread covering a major marathon, but then immediately delete my post advising that you shouldn't draw the line arbitrarily. Presumably for being off topic.
So let me respond another way. I agree with you on the language and facts. I am anal about facts to the extent that I don't believe in gods like most of you do, and believe in scientific facts, proof and obseravtions.
However, you should encourage the entire society to behave in the way you suggest, all the way to leaders who set the tone.
On the topic of Chicago marathon and the coverage. Great that I could stream this race live from down uner for the first time , late at night on a day that I started working at an event at 5am. However I was saddled via VPN with the same bad NBC coverage that you guys watched.
I must say, going back to the 70's this must be the worst coverage of any race, any distance, size or importance, that I have ever seen. There was more screen time on the wheelies, interviews with them afterwards, interviews with the majors sponsor etc...anything but the lead pack or the two leaders...progressively getting even worse as the race progressed.
Imagine covering the super bowl, and having interviews with the crowd, with trainers etc while touch downs are happenning. And this is in a country that is given 3 majors, presumably because running is importnat, watchable and draws numbers. This is the point, the majors atre nothing but a cash cow for taking big money from average runners.
Anyway, Kiplimo impressed me, and I think he is currently the best bet to break the 2hr barrier. A few things counted against him here, the wind maybe (don't know how strong), and pacing in the middle km's plus maybe fuelling as he definitely showed signs of muscle glycogen depletion at the end. Responding aggressively to Korir gave him 28:25 from 20km to 30km, but 30-40km was 29:39
Great run for Mantz!! Probably sub 2:10 without supershoes. With 104% conversion, it’s 2:09:42. Are supershoes giving more than 4% advantage now?
I’m getting a whole bunch of down votes. Not sure why. I am quite sure that his time is worth sub 2:10. His shoes would have to provide more than 4.2% advantage for his time not to be worth sub 2:10. In my mind, he is almost at Alberto Salazar level. Mantz is 4 minutes slower than WR, but the quality of marathoners was not as high in the Salazar days. So this is a terrific performance.
Bunch of down votes again. ok, you go and try to run 2:04 and see how easy it is? it’s not. This performance ranks Mantz in the top 77 all time performers. That is quite decent.
Lost respect for Mantz not going with the lead group and for the win. Guess he’s gonna be content with only having an Olympic trials win* on his resume (handed to him on a silver platter)
Mantz is nowhere near as good as those guys. He made the sensible move.
Any background on Colin Mickow? Good running for him. Is he sponsored or part of elite group?
I think he used to run with a local elite club in Chicago but parted ways recently, not sure why. That club have a “sponsorship” with rabbit for gear and mizuno for shoes but I think it’s just free product and nothing more in terms of support for their athletes it seems.
Mickow was wearing all puma today so presumably he’s sponsored by them, although maybe he just likes their brand and buys it himself and isn’t sponsored. He actually has no mention of any brands on his social media so it’s an interesting question. I wonder if he’s completely unsupported and just doing it all for fun and doesn’t care to get any brand support or potential contract.
I’ve heard he is a grinder in the Chicago suburbs and runs 120-140 mpw year round like many other high volume elites with similar ~2:11 ability who are sponsored and on teams
Lost respect for Mantz not going with the lead group and for the win. Guess he’s gonna be content with only having an Olympic trials win* on his resume (handed to him on a silver platter)
Mantz is nowhere near as good as those guys. He made the sensible move.
Mantz wouldn't have gotten the AR if he went out @ 1:57 pace is my take. The top guys couldn't handle that pace. He basically ran even, going 62:18/62:25. Mantz went out @ 2:01:23 pace. He was likely running a lot closer to 2:04 effort than 1:57 is to 2:01-flat. Kiplimo bled a ton of time from 35k to the finish. I doubt he falls off as much if he's just something like 3-5s/mile slower in the opening 5k.
I’m getting a whole bunch of down votes. Not sure why. I am quite sure that his time is worth sub 2:10. His shoes would have to provide more than 4.2% advantage for his time not to be worth sub 2:10. In my mind, he is almost at Alberto Salazar level. Mantz is 4 minutes slower than WR, but the quality of marathoners was not as high in the Salazar days. So this is a terrific performance.
Bunch of down votes again. ok, you go and try to run 2:04 and see how easy it is? it’s not. This performance ranks Mantz in the top 77 all time performers. That is quite decent.
unfortunate in your case that they do not make super shoes for the brain.
I can't wait for NYC...Chicago is overated. Too much hype no substance...NYC is the real deal.There us better coverage than the armature stuff in Chicago.
I was surprised at Chicago, watching it live for first time. Seemed like going through the back blocks of a semi industrial area at times. What is the attraction? Ahh...its a major
