Ahh, whataboutism again and again and again. That’s all you got. Hilary’s actions have no bearing on Trump’s guilt or innocence. None…..It’s really straightforward. Is Trump allowed to have govt documents at his private home. No, he’s not. Doesn’t matter if they are classified. He was asked repeatedly to return them. He did not. He still had them in his possession and he knew it. If these are the facts, he committed a crime. Hilary’s server is not a mitigating factor or in any way legally relevant.
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Wise Old Man wrote:
November 2022 and 2024 are going to be hilarious wrote:
There is literally evidence of multiple felonies which involve Joe Biden on Hunter's laptop.
Stop getting all of your news from the Daily Show and CNN.
Stop it. Whatever Hunter or even Joe did is NOT a defense of Trump. You get that, right? Trump is either guilty of being in illegal possession of govt documents, or conspiring to overturn a free and fair election, or whatever, or not. He and his lawyers cannot offer as a defense, well….what about Burisma! Also, Joe is now President, so cannot be prosecuted, Trump is not, so let’s investigate and prosecute Trump’s crimes. When Joe is out of office, Desantis’s AG can prosecute Joe and he can pardon Trump if he wishes. That’s how it works.
The fun part is you idiots are too stupid to understand that Trump is your only hope in 2024.
If your filthy corrupt DoJ and FBI keep Trump from running in 2024 the GoP will be able to roll out a Pepsi machine and beat whatever moron you leftist clowns nominate.
If Trump was guilty of anything they wouldn't have to continually invent things to accuse him of.
I don't point out that the Biden's are a literal crime family to defend Trump. I point it out to highlight that you idiots are all hypocritical morans.
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"If Trump was guilty of anything they wouldn't have to continually invent things to accuse him of."(quote)
What would they be doing? Raiding his residence for evidence of a crime on a warrant issued by a judge?
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November 2022 and 2024 are going to be hilarious wrote:
Taking the 5th wrote:
Hunter Biden needs to resign from the office of President of the United States NOW!
There is literally evidence of multiple felonies which involve Joe Biden on Hunter's laptop.
Stop getting all of your news from the Daily Show and CNN.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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Wise Old Man wrote:
November 2022 and 2024 are going to be hilarious wrote:
There is literally evidence of multiple felonies which involve Joe Biden on Hunter's laptop.
Stop getting all of your news from the Daily Show and CNN.
Stop it. Whatever Hunter or even Joe did is NOT a defense of Trump. You get that, right? Trump is either guilty of being in illegal possession of govt documents, or conspiring to overturn a free and fair election, or whatever, or not. He and his lawyers cannot offer as a defense, well….what about Burisma! Also, Joe is now President, so cannot be prosecuted, Trump is not, so let’s investigate and prosecute Trump’s crimes. When Joe is out of office, Desantis’s AG can prosecute Joe and he can pardon Trump if he wishes. That’s how it works.
What is the DeSantis DOJ going to prosecute Biden for? He has to actually commit a crime. You can say Trump didn’t commit a crime either, but many reasonable people disagree.
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November 2022 and 2024 are going to be hilarious wrote:
Yes they spent 8 hours in Melania's closet for "national security".
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November 2022 and 2024 are going to be hilarious wrote:
Taking the 5th wrote:
Hunter Biden needs to resign from the office of President of the United States NOW!
There is literally evidence of multiple felonies which involve Joe Biden on Hunter's laptop.
Stop getting all of your news from the Daily Show and CNN.
HE WAS PLAYING TOO MANY GAMES GODDAMIT! It's a felony! Less games, more work. Less games more work!
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OhPLEASEPLEASE!!! wrote:
Accept it, Trumpers, your hero is a criminal wrote:
I'm a life-long Republican but have been accused of being a "radical liberal" by many Trumpers. The fact is that the Trumpers do not reflect the values of the GOP that I used to know.
Anyway, the National Review, the publication that was founded by conservative William F. Buckley, Jr, and is now carried on by Rich Lowry, had a good op-ed piece about the FBI's looking in to DJT. (Trumpers have said Lowry is a "radical liberal," BTW. They also think that Buckely was liberal! That is rich!)
Below is a link to the short op-ed, that I don't think many Trumpers will read because it is probably considered to be too long for their attention span and the content too difficult to comprehend even though it is quite elementary. It's a short read, just a minute or two, but is spot on.
The two best quotes from the piece...
"The FBI serves search warrants on homes all the time. Donald Trump is a former president, not a mystical sacrosanct being."
"If we really believe, as we say we believe, that this is a republic, that nobody is above the law, that the presidency is just a temporary executive-branch office rather than a quasi-royal entitlement, then there is nothing all that remarkable about the FBI serving a warrant on a house in Florida."In 2022, any person who remains tethered to the Frankenstein/Cult/Monster that the republican party has morphed into is, in my mind, either a bad faith actor or utterly ignorant. Switch to Independent? Sure. Democrat? Sure. However, to remain a republican is absolutely the same as a member of the Charles Manson family remaining committed to the good aspects of his message after the Hollywood murders.
The party is essentially a dangerous personality cult devoted to the Orange Monster and mob-like cronyism. The fact that the party lent itself to this evolution tells us everything we need to know about what it was to begin with. The party fights for voter suppression, demonizes the conduct of legitimate elections, and (inconveniently for those like Rich Lowry) committed itself to a dogwhistle-driven anti-black racism starting with the Southern Strategy in the early 1970s. The icon of republicanism himself, Ronny Reagan, Hollywood California guy, kicked off his 1980 presidential campaign at a County fair in Mississippi in an obvious nod to racially-motivated right wingers.
I suppose it's OK that a few republicans decided that a wannabe almost-literal mob boss and obvious grifter would be a bad idea as a party leader, but I remain (at best) highly suspicious of ANYONE who still calls themselves republican in modern America. It informs me that you are highly likely to be selfish, possibly racist and reactionary, regressive and unsupportive of a country that evolves and modernizes over time.
I think I could accept that an occasional Republican could be disillusioned by the cult of Trump, which is what the Republican Party has become.
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November 2022 and 2024 are going to be hilarious wrote:
The fun part is you idiots are too stupid to understand that Trump is your only hope in 2024.
..Actually, the "fun part" is that what you are incapable of comprehending is that what the folks on here care about is NOT a Democrat being elected, but rather about holding Trump accountable for crimes committed against the United States of America and about the preservation of that same United States of America.
Country over party. An incomprehensible concept to Trumpettes.
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November 2022 and 2024 are going to be hilarious wrote:
Wise Old Man wrote:
Stop it. Whatever Hunter or even Joe did is NOT a defense of Trump. You get that, right? Trump is either guilty of being in illegal possession of govt documents, or conspiring to overturn a free and fair election, or whatever, or not. He and his lawyers cannot offer as a defense, well….what about Burisma! Also, Joe is now President, so cannot be prosecuted, Trump is not, so let’s investigate and prosecute Trump’s crimes. When Joe is out of office, Desantis’s AG can prosecute Joe and he can pardon Trump if he wishes. That’s how it works.
The fun part is you idiots are too stupid to understand that Trump is your only hope in 2024.
Far from it. This may be hard for an extremist to understand, but my world doesn't end if DeSantis is elected president in 2024.
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November 2022 and 2024 are going to be hilarious wrote:
Wise Old Man wrote:
Stop it. Whatever Hunter or even Joe did is NOT a defense of Trump. You get that, right? Trump is either guilty of being in illegal possession of govt documents, or conspiring to overturn a free and fair election, or whatever, or not. He and his lawyers cannot offer as a defense, well….what about Burisma! Also, Joe is now President, so cannot be prosecuted, Trump is not, so let’s investigate and prosecute Trump’s crimes. When Joe is out of office, Desantis’s AG can prosecute Joe and he can pardon Trump if he wishes. That’s how it works.
The fun part is you idiots are too stupid to understand that Trump is your only hope in 2024.
If your filthy corrupt DoJ and FBI keep Trump from running in 2024 the GoP will be able to roll out a Pepsi machine and beat whatever moron you leftist clowns nominate.
If Trump was guilty of anything they wouldn't have to continually invent things to accuse him of.
I don't point out that the Biden's are a literal crime family to defend Trump. I point it out to highlight that you idiots are all hypocritical morans.
You keep backtracking and changing the topic. It's almost as if you were guilty of hypocrisy. "You see the mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”
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For the record, they have every reason to be skeptical. If just a few years ago, most conservatives put their absolute faith and trust in the FBI, this faith has been shattered by a series of Trump-era debacles, including the "Russiagate" hoax, the lies to obtain politically motivated warrants against opponents, and some high ranking agents being openly partisan.
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Why isn't the news media referring to the documents as "stolen"?
These are stolen documents we are talking about.
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wazzu1452 wrote:
For the record, they have every reason to be skeptical. If just a few years ago, most conservatives put their absolute faith and trust in the FBI, this faith has been shattered by a series of Trump-era debacles, including the "Russiagate" hoax, the lies to obtain politically motivated warrants against opponents, and some high ranking agents being openly partisan.
Oddly enough, the only folks who seem to "put their absolute faith and trust" in any human being or human institution are those who put their absolute faith and trust in the most dishonest human being to ever walk this planet (aka The Donald).
Weird world
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Fat hurts wrote:
Why isn't the news media referring to the documents as "stolen"?
These are stolen documents we are talking about.
That would depend on whether a charge they were stolen is proven. That may be one of the issues to be resolved. Until then the documents are only "allegedly stolen" - if theft is an issue.
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"You're OK," Biden said. "You're not going to — you're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."
"I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings," Biden insisted in 2019 when he was desperately campaigning for the Democratic nomination in Iowa.So you value truth telling? NOTED.
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wazzu1452 wrote:
For the record, they have every reason to be skeptical. If just a few years ago, most conservatives put their absolute faith and trust in the FBI, this faith has been shattered by a series of Trump-era debacles, including the "Russiagate" hoax, the lies to obtain politically motivated warrants against opponents, and some high ranking agents being openly partisan.
Wazzu goes woke in an effort to defend Trump. There is literally nothing a hard-core Trumper will not say or do to defend Trump, including abandon all principles they ever had.
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wazzu1452 wrote:
"You're OK," Biden said. "You're not going to — you're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."
"I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings," Biden insisted in 2019 when he was desperately campaigning for the Democratic nomination in Iowa.So you value truth telling? NOTED.
Wow! That was possibly the single lamest attempt at a comeback/defense that I have ever seen.
Good job!
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wazzu1452 wrote:
"You're OK," Biden said. "You're not going to — you're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."
"I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings," Biden insisted in 2019 when he was desperately campaigning for the Democratic nomination in Iowa.So you value truth telling? NOTED.
but..but...whatabout..
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SDSU Aztec wrote:
Wise Old Man wrote:
Stop it. Whatever Hunter or even Joe did is NOT a defense of Trump. You get that, right? Trump is either guilty of being in illegal possession of govt documents, or conspiring to overturn a free and fair election, or whatever, or not. He and his lawyers cannot offer as a defense, well….what about Burisma! Also, Joe is now President, so cannot be prosecuted, Trump is not, so let’s investigate and prosecute Trump’s crimes. When Joe is out of office, Desantis’s AG can prosecute Joe and he can pardon Trump if he wishes. That’s how it works.
What is the DeSantis DOJ going to prosecute Biden for? He has to actually commit a crime. You can say Trump didn’t commit a crime either, but many reasonable people disagree.
Of course I don’t think Biden committed a crime, I’m just saying, if there is something to investigate Biden about and prosecute, they can go to it when the time comes. None of that has any bearing on Trump. Tired of hearing that the best defense of Trump is Hunter Biden’s laptop. What a joke.
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