Ciscokid wrote:
PAC09 wrote:
Petros is out for real.
The questions are:
A) Where is he going?
B) Who will go with him?
C) Who takes over Georgia? Will be a transition, all new staff, or a hybrid?
Bring back George Cleare, or does Tim Hall finally get a Head Job in the SEC
Tim Hall gets it. He’s already rallying his staff
How? The reason I ask is because if you go demanding to much other candidates will probably say I can do it without what others are asking for.
South of the border wrote:
https://ncaamarket.ncaa.org/jobs/14678320/associate-head-coach-women-s-track-cross-country
That would be a fun job, as long as you don't want to actually coach and are not going to have any expectations of the athletes. Those kids are not interested in being held accountable, working hard or having any expectations. Be very careful of what you say at all times, or you may find your words twisted and posted on social media. And obviously the Administration there isn't going to have your back. They will fire you in a second without evidence to save face. The kids have the power. If you go there thinking otherwise, you and your reputation will be out the door. Sadly, not unlike a lot of other athletes in other programs these days. Good luck!
Grunkle wrote:
South of the border wrote:
https://ncaamarket.ncaa.org/jobs/14678320/associate-head-coach-women-s-track-cross-countryThat would be a fun job, as long as you don't want to actually coach and are not going to have any expectations of the athletes. Those kids are not interested in being held accountable, working hard or having any expectations. Be very careful of what you say at all times, or you may find your words twisted and posted on social media. And obviously the Administration there isn't going to have your back. They will fire you in a second without evidence to save face. The kids have the power. If you go there thinking otherwise, you and your reputation will be out the door. Sadly, not unlike a lot of other athletes in other programs these days. Good luck!
Okay Matt
Grunkle wrote:
That would be a fun job, as long as you don't want to actually coach and are not going to have any expectations of the athletes. Those kids are not interested in being held accountable, working hard or having any expectations. Be very careful of what you say at all times, or you may find your words twisted and posted on social media. And obviously the Administration there isn't going to have your back. They will fire you in a second without evidence to save face. The kids have the power. If you go there thinking otherwise, you and your reputation will be out the door. Sadly, not unlike a lot of other athletes in other programs these days. Good luck!
I agree with you, but let's not overlook the fact that among other things, a coach is responsible for team culture. That means that your team will reflect the type of kid you bring in. I am out of the college coaching biz for 10 years now, but one thing I have seen, and it was really starting to happen a lot as I got out, is a lot of coaches only recruiting by the numbers, just looking at times. That can land you some talented, team cancer that will definitely destroy your team dynamic and make your life miserable. You have to recruit character just as hard as you recruit numbers/times.
Bottom line, a job like that will be what you make of it. Bring in kids that WANT YOU to run the show, not kids who are going to do what they want and try to steer the team down their path. If that means you forsake the 9:00 kid for the 9:10-9:15 kid, believe me it's well worth it. You can make up and surpass that 15 second achievement gap via a good coaching relationship easily inside of a good freshman year.
“...let's not overlook the fact that among other things, a coach is responsible for team culture. That means that your team will reflect the type of kid you bring in. “
^ This x1000
Ouch? wrote:
Grunkle wrote:
That would be a fun job, as long as you don't want to actually coach and are not going to have any expectations of the athletes. Those kids are not interested in being held accountable, working hard or having any expectations. Be very careful of what you say at all times, or you may find your words twisted and posted on social media. And obviously the Administration there isn't going to have your back. They will fire you in a second without evidence to save face. The kids have the power. If you go there thinking otherwise, you and your reputation will be out the door. Sadly, not unlike a lot of other athletes in other programs these days. Good luck!
Okay Matt
Yeah, not Matt. Just an observer that watched what went down from afar, and that has watched this become more and more common.
Crusty Ol' Coach wrote:
Grunkle wrote:
That would be a fun job, as long as you don't want to actually coach and are not going to have any expectations of the athletes. Those kids are not interested in being held accountable, working hard or having any expectations. Be very careful of what you say at all times, or you may find your words twisted and posted on social media. And obviously the Administration there isn't going to have your back. They will fire you in a second without evidence to save face. The kids have the power. If you go there thinking otherwise, you and your reputation will be out the door. Sadly, not unlike a lot of other athletes in other programs these days. Good luck!
I agree with you, but let's not overlook the fact that among other things, a coach is responsible for team culture. That means that your team will reflect the type of kid you bring in. I am out of the college coaching biz for 10 years now, but one thing I have seen, and it was really starting to happen a lot as I got out, is a lot of coaches only recruiting by the numbers, just looking at times. That can land you some talented, team cancer that will definitely destroy your team dynamic and make your life miserable. You have to recruit character just as hard as you recruit numbers/times.
Bottom line, a job like that will be what you make of it. Bring in kids that WANT YOU to run the show, not kids who are going to do what they want and try to steer the team down their path. If that means you forsake the 9:00 kid for the 9:10-9:15 kid, believe me it's well worth it. You can make up and surpass that 15 second achievement gap via a good coaching relationship easily inside of a good freshman year.
I absolutely agree with you. However, this coach will be inheriting a culture that is presumably bad, with kids that are going to be there for up to four years still. It's very difficult to bring in a new culture when a toxic old culture exists and has found it is in control.
You also have an administration that appears to have reacted to PR, not to truth. That is a dangerous environment to work in and creates a risk for a coach that an administration that does its due diligence and supports their coach until the proof is clear doesn't.
I would also say that recruiting and building great culture is harder than ever due to generational changes and technology. Not impossible, but much harder.
“... this coach will be inheriting a culture that is presumably bad, with kids that are going to be there for up to four years still. It's very difficult to bring in a new culture when a toxic old culture exists...”
I agree.
There are certain directors out there who are damaged program cleaner-uppers, or morale fixers, coaches who thrive on turning things around for the better. I would argue these are the same coaches who develop potential in athletes (and humans), and don’t just grab potential point scorers based on their high marks alone. Do blue chip high school recruits improve? Check those stats over 4-5 years of college competition and you will see what a coach is made of. Yes, there are issues with transitioning from home to college life, but like it or not, it is PART of a college coach’s job, shepherding humans into adulthood. Amazing coaches who don’t like the shepherding aspect of the job can go pro. ADs do well to hire coaches who don’t generate negative press and do graduate happy alumni.
Let's be real no white person is getting that UAB job
Anybody got an actual list of openings and not drama about potential jobs opening? Been looking back for days, haven't really seen a list. Thanks
Heard the head coach here is terrible to work for
knowledge wrote:
Heard the head coach here is terrible to work for
Kurt is a douche, couldn’t pay me enough to work for him based on the encounters I have had.
Whoa! A lot said in what wasn't said in that article....
I'll coach Georgia for half of his pay
UGA has tired of his toxicity. Championships cannot outweigh such a negative human.
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You sound like someone he fired or removed from his team for not doing your job. Or you have no clue who Petros is. UGA offered multi year extension and appears he turned it down. Who’s tired of who?
It’s no secret that outside of salaries UGA’s support for it’s non football/basketball sports is lacking. Sounds like the opposite of what you're describing to me....
I don’t think that’s Alabama A&M Coach name .