OFFICIAL LRC President Donald Trump SECOND TERM Thread

Precious Roy wrote:

What we are seeing with Trump's foreign policy is that world leaders have figured out how to play Trump. Instead of having normal diplomatic negotiations with state department diplomats working with their counterparts to try and see what sort of agreements can be hashed out between two countries, leaders have figured out that Trump can be played by going at him directly with a "deal" that plays out like a real estate development.

Zelensky offered to let the US develop Ukraine's rare earth minerals. Trump loved the idea and rolled with it claiming that future aid will be contingent on a deal for rare earth minerals. What Zelensky knows and Trump does not is that most of the known rare earth minerals are in the eastern part of Ukraine, which is currently occupied by Russia. So, Trump effectively would have to push Russia out of Donbas in order to get Ukraine's rare earth minerals.

Similar thing happened with Israel. Netanyahu knows that Israel's military cannot clear Hamas out of Gaza. Israel need the US military to do that. With Biden, Netanyahu did his best to provoke a wider conflict with Iran and Syria to draw the US into the conflict with Hamas. But Iran and Syria did not bite. Now, Netanyahu proposed a real estate deal with Trump. If the US clears out Hamas from Gaza, Trump can redevelop prime real estate on the Mediterranean.

Finally, Bukele in El Salvador also played Trump. His offer to let Trump deport undocumented immigrants to El Salvador is just a play to get the US to back his regime and protect him from the military. Bukele was a dark horse candidate and has never been popular with the traditional power structure in El Salvador (military and wealthy land owners). His war on gangs has empowered the military to take a much more active role in civil society. Bukele is hoping that US backing of his regime will create a bulwark against any inclination the military has to taking power again.

Precious Roy wrote:

What we are seeing with Trump's foreign policy is that world leaders have figured out how to play Trump. Instead of having normal diplomatic negotiations with state department diplomats working with their counterparts to try and see what sort of agreements can be hashed out between two countries, leaders have figured out that Trump can be played by going at him directly with a "deal" that plays out like a real estate development.

Zelensky offered to let the US develop Ukraine's rare earth minerals. Trump loved the idea and rolled with it claiming that future aid will be contingent on a deal for rare earth minerals. What Zelensky knows and Trump does not is that most of the known rare earth minerals are in the eastern part of Ukraine, which is currently occupied by Russia. So, Trump effectively would have to push Russia out of Donbas in order to get Ukraine's rare earth minerals.

Similar thing happened with Israel. Netanyahu knows that Israel's military cannot clear Hamas out of Gaza. Israel need the US military to do that. With Biden, Netanyahu did his best to provoke a wider conflict with Iran and Syria to draw the US into the conflict with Hamas. But Iran and Syria did not bite. Now, Netanyahu proposed a real estate deal with Trump. If the US clears out Hamas from Gaza, Trump can redevelop prime real estate on the Mediterranean.

Finally, Bukele in El Salvador also played Trump. His offer to let Trump deport undocumented immigrants to El Salvador is just a play to get the US to back his regime and protect him from the military. Bukele was a dark horse candidate and has never been popular with the traditional power structure in El Salvador (military and wealthy land owners). His war on gangs has empowered the military to take a much more active role in civil society. Bukele is hoping that US backing of his regime will create a bulwark against any inclination the military has to taking power again.

king999 wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

What we are seeing with Trump's foreign policy is that world leaders have figured out how to play Trump. Instead of having normal diplomatic negotiations with state department diplomats working with their counterparts to try and see what sort of agreements can be hashed out between two countries, leaders have figured out that Trump can be played by going at him directly with a "deal" that plays out like a real estate development.

Zelensky offered to let the US develop Ukraine's rare earth minerals. Trump loved the idea and rolled with it claiming that future aid will be contingent on a deal for rare earth minerals. What Zelensky knows and Trump does not is that most of the known rare earth minerals are in the eastern part of Ukraine, which is currently occupied by Russia. So, Trump effectively would have to push Russia out of Donbas in order to get Ukraine's rare earth minerals.

Similar thing happened with Israel. Netanyahu knows that Israel's military cannot clear Hamas out of Gaza. Israel need the US military to do that. With Biden, Netanyahu did his best to provoke a wider conflict with Iran and Syria to draw the US into the conflict with Hamas. But Iran and Syria did not bite. Now, Netanyahu proposed a real estate deal with Trump. If the US clears out Hamas from Gaza, Trump can redevelop prime real estate on the Mediterranean.

Finally, Bukele in El Salvador also played Trump. His offer to let Trump deport undocumented immigrants to El Salvador is just a play to get the US to back his regime and protect him from the military. Bukele was a dark horse candidate and has never been popular with the traditional power structure in El Salvador (military and wealthy land owners). His war on gangs has empowered the military to take a much more active role in civil society. Bukele is hoping that US backing of his regime will create a bulwark against any inclination the military has to taking power again.

You can say what you want, the outcry is mostly from soft Dems who actually liked this sh-t under Biden? It;s comical. Check actual Interview that got edited with Harris, that was your choice? My God!! Trump may be a lot of things , but he is not getting played by anyone, if anything , he has shown almost how easy with the right platform it is to get elected. He HAD NO helpers in 2016. NOW, they are all helpers and you folks despise it.

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

What we are seeing with Trump's foreign policy is that world leaders have figured out how to play Trump. Instead of having normal diplomatic negotiations with state department diplomats working with their counterparts to try and see what sort of agreements can be hashed out between two countries, leaders have figured out that Trump can be played by going at him directly with a "deal" that plays out like a real estate development.

Zelensky offered to let the US develop Ukraine's rare earth minerals. Trump loved the idea and rolled with it claiming that future aid will be contingent on a deal for rare earth minerals. What Zelensky knows and Trump does not is that most of the known rare earth minerals are in the eastern part of Ukraine, which is currently occupied by Russia. So, Trump effectively would have to push Russia out of Donbas in order to get Ukraine's rare earth minerals.

Similar thing happened with Israel. Netanyahu knows that Israel's military cannot clear Hamas out of Gaza. Israel need the US military to do that. With Biden, Netanyahu did his best to provoke a wider conflict with Iran and Syria to draw the US into the conflict with Hamas. But Iran and Syria did not bite. Now, Netanyahu proposed a real estate deal with Trump. If the US clears out Hamas from Gaza, Trump can redevelop prime real estate on the Mediterranean.

Finally, Bukele in El Salvador also played Trump. His offer to let Trump deport undocumented immigrants to El Salvador is just a play to get the US to back his regime and protect him from the military. Bukele was a dark horse candidate and has never been popular with the traditional power structure in El Salvador (military and wealthy land owners). His war on gangs has empowered the military to take a much more active role in civil society. Bukele is hoping that US backing of his regime will create a bulwark against any inclination the military has to taking power again.

The New York Times reader, revealed. Basically a straight regurgitation.

First of all, if we are going to continue to fund the “war” in Ukraine, why wouldn’t we demand something in return? Just imagine!? Trump could just as easily settle it by ceding the eastern part of Ukraine (culturally and ethnically Russian) to Russia with the caveats that Ukraine immediately joins NATO, weaponization is allowed right at the border to stop any further incursion (so a real red line), and the US gets those mineral rights as well. But the left would lose their friggin minds. In any event, rare earth mineral rights should be part of any conversation, since China will use that as a huge leverage point.

As far as Gaza, Trump is simply being the outrageous provocateur that he always is to get SA, Egypt, UAE, Jordan, and Qatar to the negotiating table. Iran is the worst thing that ever happened to innocent Gazans, but Trump also knows that the US can’t indefinitely fund a proxy war there either. Gazans aren’t going anywhere, but they deserve a future free from strife and deplorable conditions. Which is all Iran has ever delivered. So, you build a new coalition, and, in the process, why not help to makeover Gaza? Because it really is a sh!thole country. But you have to get wealthy SA, UAE, and Qatar onboard, as well as Jordan and Egypt, who don’t want Palestinians back even though the vast majority are Trans-Jordanian and Egyptian refugees.

There are no easy answers, as the prior administration solved nothing and invited these wars. I told you, Precious Roy, how it is that you Democrats were going to get Trump elected, and you wouldn’t listen. You’re still not listening. These wars are a result of feckless Biden/Harris foreign policy, speaking of who got played. As was Mexico’s exploitation of our border for their own selfish interests.

Precious Roy wrote:

Sub-9:00 guy wrote:

The New York Times reader, revealed. Basically a straight regurgitation.

First of all, if we are going to continue to fund the “war” in Ukraine, why wouldn’t we demand something in return? Just imagine!? Trump could just as easily settle it by ceding the eastern part of Ukraine (culturally and ethnically Russian) to Russia with the caveats that Ukraine immediately joins NATO, weaponization is allowed right at the border to stop any further incursion (so a real red line), and the US gets those mineral rights as well. But the left would lose their friggin minds. In any event, rare earth mineral rights should be part of any conversation, since China will use that as a huge leverage point.

As far as Gaza, Trump is simply being the outrageous provocateur that he always is to get SA, Egypt, UAE, Jordan, and Qatar to the negotiating table. Iran is the worst thing that ever happened to innocent Gazans, but Trump also knows that the US can’t indefinitely fund a proxy war there either. Gazans aren’t going anywhere, but they deserve a future free from strife and deplorable conditions. Which is all Iran has ever delivered. So, you build a new coalition, and, in the process, why not help to makeover Gaza? Because it really is a sh!thole country. But you have to get wealthy SA, UAE, and Qatar onboard, as well as Jordan and Egypt, who don’t want Palestinians back even though the vast majority are Trans-Jordanian and Egyptian refugees.

There are no easy answers, as the prior administration solved nothing and invited these wars. I told you, Precious Roy, how it is that you Democrats were going to get Trump elected, and you wouldn’t listen. You’re still not listening. These wars are a result of feckless Biden/Harris foreign policy, speaking of who got played. As was Mexico’s exploitation of our border for their own selfish interests.

Only Trump would be dumb enough to do a deal to get rare earth minerals that are by and large located in Russian occupied territory. That basically commits the US to liberating Donbas or getting nothin in exchange for supporting Ukraine if a peace treaty gives Donbas to Russia. That is getting played in a big way.

Israel's right wing has long wanted to expel the Palestinians and retake Gaza and the West Bank to bring back the biblical borders of Judea and Samaria. But it was always a redline with the US because any mass expulsion would force the Gulf monarchies and Egypt to decide whether they want a civil war inside their country or go to war to stop Israel from expelling the Palestinians. Israel has pursued a death by a thousand cuts strategy by taking small tracts of land in the West Bank for settlements and bombing large swaths of Gaza to force as many Palestinians in Gaza to give up and leave (not many are budging). Not even the most right wing US foreign policy flack would want to commit the US to a wide war in the middle east to expel the Palestinians from Gaza. But Netanyahu got Trump to do it in about 45 minutes by making it a real estate deal to let Trump build casinos in the Holy Land.

Precious Roy wrote:

What we are seeing with Trump's foreign policy is that world leaders have figured out how to play Trump. Instead of having normal diplomatic negotiations with state department diplomats working with their counterparts to try and see what sort of agreements can be hashed out between two countries, leaders have figured out that Trump can be played by going at him directly with a "deal" that plays out like a real estate development.

Zelensky offered to let the US develop Ukraine's rare earth minerals. Trump loved the idea and rolled with it claiming that future aid will be contingent on a deal for rare earth minerals. What Zelensky knows and Trump does not is that most of the known rare earth minerals are in the eastern part of Ukraine, which is currently occupied by Russia. So, Trump effectively would have to push Russia out of Donbas in order to get Ukraine's rare earth minerals.

Similar thing happened with Israel. Netanyahu knows that Israel's military cannot clear Hamas out of Gaza. Israel need the US military to do that. With Biden, Netanyahu did his best to provoke a wider conflict with Iran and Syria to draw the US into the conflict with Hamas. But Iran and Syria did not bite. Now, Netanyahu proposed a real estate deal with Trump. If the US clears out Hamas from Gaza, Trump can redevelop prime real estate on the Mediterranean.

Finally, Bukele in El Salvador also played Trump. His offer to let Trump deport undocumented immigrants to El Salvador is just a play to get the US to back his regime and protect him from the military. Bukele was a dark horse candidate and has never been popular with the traditional power structure in El Salvador (military and wealthy land owners). His war on gangs has empowered the military to take a much more active role in civil society. Bukele is hoping that US backing of his regime will create a bulwark against any inclination the military has to taking power again.

Newname wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

Only Trump would be dumb enough to do a deal to get rare earth minerals that are by and large located in Russian occupied territory. That basically commits the US to liberating Donbas or getting nothin in exchange for supporting Ukraine if a peace treaty gives Donbas to Russia. That is getting played in a big way.

Israel's right wing has long wanted to expel the Palestinians and retake Gaza and the West Bank to bring back the biblical borders of Judea and Samaria. But it was always a redline with the US because any mass expulsion would force the Gulf monarchies and Egypt to decide whether they want a civil war inside their country or go to war to stop Israel from expelling the Palestinians. Israel has pursued a death by a thousand cuts strategy by taking small tracts of land in the West Bank for settlements and bombing large swaths of Gaza to force as many Palestinians in Gaza to give up and leave (not many are budging). Not even the most right wing US foreign policy flack would want to commit the US to a wide war in the middle east to expel the Palestinians from Gaza. But Netanyahu got Trump to do it in about 45 minutes by making it a real estate deal to let Trump build casinos in the Holy Land.

Wouldn't call dropping over 100,000 tons of bombs on the 2 million plus people trapped in tiny Gaza death by a thousand cuts