"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

Also you fail to explain excess deaths, once again. It’s just whackamole for you. There no unified theory of COVID death over counting. Pure BS.

2600 bro wrote:

Bullet_Proof wrote:

They count. But not as covid deaths.

Congrats, you've passed elementary school!

Your second sentence makes no sense. Please rewrite in correct syntax and grammar.

Why not? Comorbidities contribute to risks for causes of death but are not the underlying causes of death. ~92% of COVID deaths have COVID as the underlying cause (determined by attending doctor).

Second Q was: what fraction of all deaths have at least one listed comorbidity?

Thats not what the director of the CDC said recently: 75% 4 cormorbidities. 93% 2 comorbidities.

2600 bro wrote:

Also you fail to explain excess deaths, once again. It’s just whackamole for you. There no unified theory of COVID death over counting. Pure BS.

What do I need to explain? Yes, people died. You act as if death doesn't exist. You act as if we are all getting out alive. Sometimes people like you need a little tough love reminder: death is inevitable.

The excess deaths you keep claiming, when interpreted calmly, leads us to conclude that we can continue our lives normally.

Google the average age of death. It is around 78 years old. Not actuarial tables - we've already been over this - google average age of death. Simply ask yourself, with existing data we have of the age of people who die from 1940 until 2019. For kicks I went and looked. A lot of people die after 78 years old and a lot of people die before 78 years old. And the average ends up around 78 years old. People die for a whole slew of reasons, some preventable, some not preventable. Should we stop the world with lockdown measures and forced mandates that limits our freedom because 0.06% of the population is at risk? We dont do that in other parts of our society where one persons actions may inadvertantly lead to another persons death. Because we calmly examine the data and accept the risk.

People have been getting sick since the beginning of time. I would bet my net worth that in your life you have been sick with the flu and spread it to others which eventually led to an old person contracting it and dying.

We cannot shutdown society because of a relatively small risk. Whats funny is there are other things in life that are more likely to kill you.

We have explained the excess deaths. A lot of old people dying. So what? Everyone of us has lost someone. Life goes on. Your like drax in Guardians of the Galaxy, cumiserating that youre the only one who has lost someone. Then the racoon says "weve all lost someone." Taking him out of his selfish pity party. We cannot wait inside our whole lives. That is waiting to die.

Choose to live life fully.

We must fight back against shutting down society because of a miniscule risk. No lockdowns. No vaccine mandates. No mask mandates.

Fight back against MASS FORMATION PSYCHOSIS!

Okay, now that I think about it, you're in the Troll Bin, with NY and the rest. That's okay, though: Knowing to just skip your posts will speed my reading through this thread.

Fauci just confirmed this is a pandemic of everybody. Regardless of vaccination status.

“I think, in many respects, Omicron, with its extraordinary, unprecedented degree of efficiency of transmissibility, will, ultimately, find just about everybody,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci

Sorry Harambe. Your troll post has been refuted by your hero. Time to start a new thread. But you won’t.

teflontony wrote:

Fauci just confirmed this is a pandemic of everybody. Regardless of vaccination status.

“I think, in many respects, Omicron, with its extraordinary, unprecedented degree of efficiency of transmissibility, will, ultimately, find just about everybody,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci

Sorry Harambe. Your troll post has been refuted by your hero. Time to start a new thread. But you won’t.

The vaccinated are better protected than anyone else during the Omicron wave. They will not be putting pressure on hospital resources.

The pandemic of the unvaxxed remains.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

People have been getting sick since the beginning of time. I would bet my net worth that in your life you have been sick with the flu and spread it to others which eventually led to an old person contracting it and dying.

I got rich of Dogecoin last year. (See my posts) I have no need for an extra $50k or whatever. Thanks for the offer though.

DanM wrote:

You have an answer for everything. What's your answer for the Governor of West Virginia ?

Three doses of "vaccine" and the man is seriously ill with Covid-19.

Why ?

Jim Justice is a man of the fat persuasion. As already established on this thread, obesity is likely the primary risk factor (aka comorbidity) for severe illness or death from Covid-19.

He's lucky to have been vaccinated and boosted; otherwise, we might well be talking about him in the past tense.

teflontony wrote:

Fauci just confirmed this is a pandemic of everybody. Regardless of vaccination status.

“I think, in many respects, Omicron, with its extraordinary, unprecedented degree of efficiency of transmissibility, will, ultimately, find just about everybody,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci

Sorry Harambe. Your troll post has been refuted by your hero. Time to start a new thread. But you won’t.

Bingo.

And with the drop of the DARPA documents and Fauci emails this week, we can now shift our focus to the POS scumbag criminals that created the virus that helped kill 4.5M globally, destroy thousands businesses here in the US, tear families apart, etc.

Harambe wrote:

Bullet_Proof wrote:

People have been getting sick since the beginning of time. I would bet my net worth that in your life you have been sick with the flu and spread it to others which eventually led to an old person contracting it and dying.

I got rich of Dogecoin last year. (See my posts) I have no need for an extra $50k or whatever. Thanks for the offer though.

You could use it towards your HIV treatments.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Why not? Comorbidities contribute to risks for causes of death but are not the underlying causes of death. ~92% of COVID deaths have COVID as the underlying cause (determined by attending doctor).

Second Q was: what fraction of all deaths have at least one listed comorbidity?

Thats not what the director of the CDC said recently: 75% 4 cormorbidities. 93% 2 comorbidities.

Are you being intentionally obtuse? It's not a good look.

Death certificates have multiple lines. But there is an UNDERLYING CAUSE on every form. The cause that lead to the death of patient. E.g. the patient died from respiratory failure but the underlying cause the COVID induced pneumonia. This underlying cause is COVID on ~92% of COVID deaths (death certs that have COVID anywhere on the death certificate) in the US.

This is different from saying these deaths were without comorbidities. Most old people have > 0 comorbidities (hypertension, obesity, etc.), but the key is what the doctor judges as the underlying cause. Most deaths have multiple comorbidities since most deaths are old people.

Read this:

Bullet_Proof wrote:

[quote]2600 bro wrote:

Also you fail to explain excess deaths, once again. It’s just whackamole for you. There no unified theory of COVID death over counting. Pure BS.

What do I need to explain? Yes, people died.

/quote]

As long as you acknowledge that ~800k people died over the past 2 years that would not have otherwise died (see: excess deaths). This is a big improvement. You might not be as stupid as I thought.

Once that is in your brain, it will become obvious that approximately all over the excess deaths were caused by COVID.

This is progress!

yourexboyfriend wrote:

You could use it towards your HIV treatments.

Oddly enough, Fauxi was at the root of that gigantic f-up, too…

The World Health Organization on Tuesday said the Covid omicron variant can result in life-threatening illness for the unvaccinated, the elderly and people with underlying conditions.

Dr. Mike Ryan, director of the WHO’s health emergencies program, said unvaccinated people face a higher risk that an omicron infection will make them severely sick and and possibly even kill them.

“Omicron still represents a massive threat to their life and a massive threat to their health,” Ryan said of the unvaccinated during a Q&A livestreamed Tuesday on the WHO’s social media channels.

Ryan said vaccinated people, on the other hand, generally experience mild illness if they get a breakthrough infection.

Harambe wrote:

PTF wrote:

Not sure this is "anti-vaxx" evidence...cause I'm not sure anymore what people mean when they use that term...but here is a bit to at least get one thinking in a more balanced way:

Nobody argues that prior immunity (vaccine or infection) does much against mild disease. The vaccine is still hugely effective against severe disease.

It may come as a surprise, but re-litigating points that everyone agrees to and then claiming you are bringing 'balance' to the conversation... does not reflect well on the antivaxx grasp of the current literature (or really any other scientific capabilities).

This is getting stupid, spewing the same old crap. Again, there is no severe disease without a bunch of co morbidities. The injection makes no difference other than making you unhealthy. Nobody healthy has a rough time with this. Your just full of spin and grabbing onto words that have no relevance in this discussion.

Why Unvaccinated People Are Feeling the Brunt of the Omicron Surge:

Several factors, including its high transmissibility, have led to a surge in the spread of the coronavirus Omicron variant.

The unvaccinated are at greatest risk for severe illness.

Vaccination greatly reduces risk of being hospitalized and dying from the disease.

Vaccination also reduces the burden on the healthcare system.

“You know, be concerned about Omicron, but don’t be alarmed,” said Biden. “But if you’re unvaccinated, you have some reason to be alarmed. Many of you will — you know, you’ll experience severe illness, in many cases, if you get COVID-19 if you’re not vaccinated. Some will die — needlessly die.”

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-unvaccinated-people-are-feeling-the-brunt-of-the-omicron-surge