RYinvestigator wrote:
I am also wondering how he could claim he ran one marathon a day, because some stages of the TransCon were less than 26 miles:
http://raceacrossusa.org/results/
I have a feeling that the whole raceacrossusa thing was a sham too. Seriously, I don't see how RY could run a marathon a day for weeks. That's 182 mpw. No way he would walk around with a muffin top then.
The wiki link was only to show the list of awards and achievements he's won. There are other sources for that. WIki is convenient for this. Best thing about wiki is the citations. Just click them and go to the sources.
Peace and Sport Awards wrote:
http://m.zimbio.com/photos/Robert+Young/Peace+Sport+8th+International+Forum/mCmh2hQZHkYThis is the biggest joke of the lot.
Is he holding a small toilet seat?
What about starting to talk about this on UK running forums. I think he biggest are http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/latest-posts/ and http://www.fetcheveryone.com/ I've had a quick look and I don't see that anyone is talking about it yet. I'm sure a lot of his fans hang out in these places so it might be a hard slog but it might get more UK runners doubting his exploits.
PS – this is sold out (https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/an-evening-with-robert-young-marathon-man-uk-tickets-25198212532) but I wonder if it will actually go ahead? If so I hope there are some real runners there with plenty of probing questions for him!!
Another money trail! I wonder how many events like this Dustin Brooks set up to con money away from people with Rob's false stories?
suspecter of fraud wrote:
RYinvestigator wrote:I am also wondering how he could claim he ran one marathon a day, because some stages of the TransCon were less than 26 miles:
http://raceacrossusa.org/results/I have a feeling that the whole raceacrossusa thing was a sham too. Seriously, I don't see how RY could run a marathon a day for weeks. That's 182 mpw. No way he would walk around with a muffin top then.
They were only running 6 days a week, then 1 off. But yeh, the raceacrossusa thing is sketchy because there's no gps data for the results, only a limited spreadsheet listing times. It was run by one of the main charities supporting this transcon record. Two runners report Rob sprinting off each day and going through the aid stations in the first half of the stages when they were unstaffed. Who knows. The organzers probly had the attitude, Ah, close enough. Who cares. RY is definitely the fastest so detes don't matter.
The photo of him finishing at the white house looks like he had run himself into shape. He looks more fit in that pic than any other.
Can't speak to the British charity but the US charities (100 mile club and Tyler Robinson Foundation), are both linked to RY's friends with questionable tracking of donation dollars
Already established the 100 mile club put on the "Race Across The Usa" in 2015 which RY "won". They also operate under "Run With Us America" same group, all is the 100 mile club "charity". Same major players, (Kara Lubin, Patrick Sweeney, Alex Ramsay, Maria Walton, Jup Brown, Ed Ettinghausen, Alfa Severino, Vanessa and Shacky Rodriguez, and so on).
Tyler Robinson Foundation is linked to Lisa Smith Batchen and, surprise surprise, was the the charity she was doing her 2016 transcon "for the children" on 2016 until she had her "medical emergency" less than a week in to the ride/run. 2 weeks later, literally 2 weeks later RY adds them as another charity that needs donations for this transcon and invites donations. LSB has been one of RY's most vocal supporters on that touting his incredibleness less than a month ago, unsure now if they will try to look non affiliated to regroup for the next go but it's a little late to pretend to be not affiliated.
These two american charities and?
Aside from these 2 american charities RY is "running for" on this transcon his pals have other charities outside of these two, am compiling a list of all the fake charities associated with RY pals and will post at some point. None of them have tracking of donation dollars, most but not all are variants of the "for the children" theme. They also do a lot of "raising awareness" which is a nice way to say do nothing. With all of these other charities they also do "endurance feats" and ask for donations for charities they or their associates founded with no tracking of where the money goes. It is a cottage industry and how these people live. This is how these people live.
i hate cheats wrote:
suspecter of fraud wrote:I have a feeling that the whole raceacrossusa thing was a sham too. Seriously, I don't see how RY could run a marathon a day for weeks. That's 182 mpw. No way he would walk around with a muffin top then.
They were only running 6 days a week, then 1 off.
I read somewhere that RY claims he ran "a marathon" on the off-day too.
suspecter of fraud wrote:
I read somewhere that RY claims he ran "a marathon" on the off-day too.
Saw that too somewhere. He used the stage race to pile up marathons in a year towards that record and the book.
This is amusing:
http://www.runultra.co.uk/Articles/October-2015/Q-A-Rob-Young-MarathonManUK-no-2
Quote 'The next day was the London Marathon. I had to run it very quickly in order to catch my plane back to the US for the rest of the series I was running over there. It was all tight margins and I had a motorbike waiting at the finish to whisk me off to Heathrow as soon as I was done. I threw in a quick pace and stopped for a good 20 minutes in the middle of the race to do some interviews and say hello to some friends who had come down to the race to see me.'
Really - stopped for 20 minutes in the middle? - the timing splits show a 1:22 at half way and you can see from his splits that the only place he could have stopped was between 35 and 40k - but still not for anything like 20 minutes. What a load of BS!
i hate cheats wrote:
suspecter of fraud wrote:I have a feeling that the whole raceacrossusa thing was a sham too. Seriously, I don't see how RY could run a marathon a day for weeks. That's 182 mpw. No way he would walk around with a muffin top then.
They were only running 6 days a week, then 1 off. But yeh, the raceacrossusa thing is sketchy because there's no gps data for the results, only a limited spreadsheet listing times. It was run by one of the main charities supporting this transcon record. Two runners report Rob sprinting off each day and going through the aid stations in the first half of the stages when they were unstaffed. Who knows. The organzers probly had the attitude, Ah, close enough. Who cares. RY is definitely the fastest so detes don't matter.
The photo of him finishing at the white house looks like he had run himself into shape. He looks more fit in that pic than any other.
But honestly, these races were all point to point and I assume he didn't have a personal RV. So I have no idea how he would have cheated.
On his facebook, he became a marathoner, but not in actual race just running 26 miels on his own, and immediately starting posting charity links, but not these american ones. The charity stuff started in April 2014 as he started running. Not too surprising. Someone posted an article from 2004 that described him biking or swimming for charity then.
the charity games wrote:
Already established the 100 mile club put on the "Race Across The Usa" in 2015 which RY "won". They also operate under "Run With Us America" same group, all is the 100 mile club "charity". Same major players, (Kara Lubin, Patrick Sweeney, Alex Ramsay, Maria Walton, Jup Brown, Ed Ettinghausen, Alfa Severino, Vanessa and Shacky Rodriguez, and so on).
Tyler Robinson Foundation is linked to Lisa Smith Batchen
I guess the participants in the raceacrossusa thing were just a bunch of scammer friends.
The runners were:
Core Team
Darren Van Soye M 53
Linda Mazenko F 56
Bryce Carlson M 34
Alex Ramsey M 30
Robert Young M 32
Nancy Bennett F 64
Newton Baker M 73
Journeymen
Steven Cooper M 49
Jup Brown M 41
Patrick Sweeney M 36
Chris Knodel M 42
Jessica Hardy F 32
You have already mentioned Alex Ramsey, Patrick Sweeney and Jup Brown being involved in the charities. Any idea about the rest of them?
There are plenty of photos and a few videos of Rob running on the raceacrossusa Instagram account
https://www.instagram.com/raceacrossusa/
They actually did a really good job of documenting the race through photos. Right from the start Rob looked fit, almost like a real runner. Compare that to his tire belly at the start of the TransCon attempt. I think he went into this attempt completely unprepared and out of shape but expected he could run the times he did last year for more than double the daily distance. This is what ultimately led to the cheating.
Good theory. He very well could be driving the rest of the way. But why no FB posts or blog? No uplifting "finishing for the kids" comment to his faithful disciples?
RYinvestigator wrote:
But honestly, these races were all point to point and I assume he didn't have a personal RV. So I have no idea how he would have cheated.
That's why I said it's kind of sketchy. I have no plausible explanation how he could've skipped parts of the stages. I don't think he had his own individual crew. I think the race organizers and participants all stayed and ate together and sometimes camped together. Probably few vehicles. I have wondered how he got from Alabama to the airport to fly to London and back though. Public transportation isn't an option like in Europe.
Is anything this guy claims actually legitimate and verified?
I think we could be looking at the biggest cheater in running history here. The best part is, he's only been running for just over 2 years since he was inspired by the charities at the London Marathon in April 2014.
Thank F he has been nailed now.
Nancy Bennett is Bunny Woman or whatever we are calling here
Note the ages here. This looks like it is mostly a masters/veteran/old fart group
the charity games wrote:
Can't speak to the British charity but the US charities (100 mile club and Tyler Robinson Foundation), are both linked to RY's friends with questionable tracking of donation dollars
Already established the 100 mile club put on the "Race Across The Usa" in 2015 which RY "won". They also operate under "Run With Us America" same group, all is the 100 mile club "charity". Same major players, (Kara Lubin, Patrick Sweeney, Alex Ramsay, Maria Walton, Jup Brown, Ed Ettinghausen, Alfa Severino, Vanessa and Shacky Rodriguez, and so on).
Tyler Robinson Foundation is linked to Lisa Smith Batchen and, surprise surprise, was the the charity she was doing her 2016 transcon "for the children" on 2016 until she had her "medical emergency" less than a week in to the ride/run. 2 weeks later, literally 2 weeks later RY adds them as another charity that needs donations for this transcon and invites donations. LSB has been one of RY's most vocal supporters on that touting his incredibleness less than a month ago, unsure now if they will try to look non affiliated to regroup for the next go but it's a little late to pretend to be not affiliated.
These two american charities and?
Aside from these 2 american charities RY is "running for" on this transcon his pals have other charities outside of these two, am compiling a list of all the fake charities associated with RY pals and will post at some point. None of them have tracking of donation dollars, most but not all are variants of the "for the children" theme. They also do a lot of "raising awareness" which is a nice way to say do nothing. With all of these other charities they also do "endurance feats" and ask for donations for charities they or their associates founded with no tracking of where the money goes. It is a cottage industry and how these people live. This is how these people live.
Great work!
Follow the money.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TcxS0bAZ8sG-SMZl_d-kF3zJS1jjLLPN5TOWddnixgo/editBy the way, I heard that Bob Marley also participated in that Race Across the USA.
In case anyone missed it yesterday.
Around 40,000 of his Facebook likes are from Turkey, compared to only 10,000 in his home country, the UK (http://i.imgur.com/Koa1IYP.png)
Fakes