OFFICIAL LRC President Donald Trump SECOND TERM Thread

US state dept just declared another $6.7 billion for Israel to buy weapons last week.

See. Does not matter who is the president. In 2024 US gave Israel an additional $15 billion plus above all the usual goodies. IN 2025, the additional gifts were similar.

Biden in 2024, Trump in 2025. No difference

ACA? You mean Romney Care? I noted before it did help some people somewhat. But it helped the Insurers far more. Dems used to talk about Medicare for All all the time 10-12 years ago. Never a peep now.

No material difference

22 million people would like to have a word with you.

The avg savings per American is $300 to $400 per year.

The added money for the insurers per insurer is @ $5 billion per year.

do you have no comprehension that directly because of a trump action, 22 million people have their healthcare insurance go up 100%+ this month???? Has your jew hatred so taken over your entire brain that you can't even acknowledge that?

Wow. How'd you work "Jew hatred" into this conversation?

Trump's action screwed millions of poor people a little bit more than they were being screwed under Biden. The poor get screwed hard no matter what party is in charge.

Only someone with brain damage could be believe such a thing.

That’s a foolish or dishonest take masquerading as a cynicism born of experience and wisdom. There is and has always been corruption from someone, not restricted to any one party. There is and has always been some kind of dirty trick, manipulation, or fraudulent activity. It does not follow that every level of corruption is the same.

The transparency of an open society and a citizenry that is largely deeply opposed to malfeasance (not from “the other guys” as partisanship, but on the basis of shared principle) is what holds the problems in check.

You make a statement that levels distinctions. Do you think voting in the U.S. is better than it’s been in Turkey or Brazil? Than in every nominally democratic banana republic? Do you think voting in every U.S. county in the last election was the same as in the worst excesses of 19th and early 20th-century America? There are many factors that affect these problems, and it’s possible to create circumstances that minimize chances of wrongdoing. Even legal attempts at gerrymandering for an advantage vary in terms of severity in a party’s attempts to game the system, and that’s equally true other means of creating an advantage, legal or illegal.

”Oh well, they all cheat anyway” is exactly what every fraudster wants you to think, because it leads to the kind of lowered expectations and acceptance that open the door to unchecked behavior.

You’re just throwing out the very words that the fraudsters do to justify their actions and that the most base of the power-hungry do to justify their actions retreat from democracy to antidemocratic authoritarian rule.

There is no material difference between how the 2 parties rule.

the mindset of "all governments are equally corrupt" is very similar to a conspiracy kook mindset. It is a mindset of " I know the truth and you others are all deceived". We see it with 9/11 truthers, flat earthers, Antivaxers, you name it.

They want to pretend they are a part of a special group that is in the know and you are not a part of it because you are falling for the deception. It is kind of a feel good mechanism.

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=14028454&t=1770213340#post-1

look, if someone were in the Klan, you'd think that their entire judgment was biased and under question by that. That's why all convos with you must be judged by your view that the Nazis were essentially correct in their attitude toward jewry. That you agree with the Nazis viz Jews...that's a demonstration of your judgment in all things that people should have in front of them.

Your view that the Dems and Rs are equally bad to poor people is absurd. Since FDR the Dems have focused on helping blue collar people, while Rs have focused on helping bankers. Many, many accomplishments that the Republicans fought at every step, so the rich people could get ever richer.

And of course we all know every recession in half a century has come under R leadership, and the stock market and economy do far better with D leadership.

And of course the Rs started every war we've fought in a long, long time.

Also, I had no wish to imply anything like “the fact that It’s not as bad as it is elsewhere or at other times is an excuse for certain levels of wrongdoing.” It is merely the understanding that if there are levels of severity, the goal is to strive for constant vigilance about wrongdoing to minimize it rather than throw up your hands and say “Oh well, I guess they all do it, so who cares?”

here's a list. The Rs fought tooth and nail against all these, I'd guess. Like they fought hard agains Social Security and Medicare and FDIC.

there has always been a huge difference between parties, even before trump took over the GOP.

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Smells like cope.

You regret your Trump vote and you're trying to both sides this thing. Trump is next level incompetent and vastly more corrupt than any prior president.

You're partly responsible, just own it.

Lets talk specifics instead of you giving your amateur psychoanalysis to satisfy your confirmation bias. How do the Dems rule differently than the GOP? Materially? ACA or not is one minor difference. How about wars? Censorship? Crushing protest? Increased wealth disparity? Billions per year for Israel? Shipping our manufacturing jobs out of the country? Sanctioning any country that does not go along with US?

On an aside, you believe the official 911 story? Covid too?

Newname wrote:
Trump's action screwed millions of poor people a little bit more than they were being screwed under Biden.

concession accepted, thank you for your attention to this matter