Explosive New York Times article: Mary Cain breaks silence about NOP

1 lb = 2 seconds a mile. wrote:

So she was fat and wanted to be the best in the world? Doesnt work that way Mary. Take the 150K you got from the NYT for your exclusive story and book rights, and shove it where the sun dont shine.

Also, Cam Levins Grats on being the Beta Kuck Orbiter of the Year.

Thank you sociopath. Every competent coach (who cares) in the world knows how to get adequate calories in someone and still get results. Dangerous caloric restriction is lazy thinking on AS's part and yours, and emotional abuse doesnt wok real well either.

Sad to see people attack the victim and attempt to defend an awful human being in Salazar.

You can go to the big house for SO much less than he did. If she died, he would unquestionably be looking at a day in court with his freedom on the line. Felicity Hoffman went to jail for being a rich person paying off college admissions people. Would you say physically and emotionally abusing someone til they almost killed themselves and lost their career might necessitate a year or two to think in an 8 x 8 cell? Its called a deterrent.

I agree with you on this.

I think Salazar and his team screwed her up and he should get punished but in the video I also got the vibe she might not have wholly ready for the transition to pro sports. Rather, she should have gone to college.

I get #metoo and feminists, and understand their concerns (body shaming is NOT good), but not all of it is on Salazar. Most of it, but not all.

To clarify she may have needed a better support system around her from her teammates and non-Salazar personnel.

Between hearing of the abuses of these young athletes to their rampant abuse of child labor overseas, Nike is really a garbage, s**t company.

Meanwhile, there's human debris like Lebron and Kaepernick lecturing the American populace while simultaneously supporting communist regimes.

We really do live in Clown World now.

A new Maddy video; the book that Fagan wrote wasn't totally accurate. But good points about setbacks.

yhrebray wrote:

Sad to see people attack the victim and attempt to defend an awful human being in Salazar.

+1

Those despicable trolls have no shame.

I'm sure this weight topic is even more focused upon in other sports such as gymnastics boxing swimming wrestling. What Alberto was doing has been done plenty in these other sports and perhaps to an even more extreme degree. With today's society there is a victim blaming complex instilled, primarily amongst women, always entitled to be the victim and absolutely no self responsibility for what occurred. Now yes, I understand the amount of trust people put in coaches, especially young female athletes. But at the end of the day, it is the individuals decision to comply or not. I give credit and respect to miss Cain for making her own decision to leave the coach. But I'm also saying she had her own discretion whether or not to restrict calories as an adult woman. She did a good job of doing her own thing. The victim complex exists amongst the vast majority of women and is instilled upon them by other women as a toxic cultural thing. I always hear that it's the coaches fault when it goes wrong and all on the athlete when it goes right. Like a broken record. That's why I have more respect for people who can take responsibility instead of blaming someone else for why something went awry. I especially will respect a woman who takes responsibility.

females prefer most often male coaches. having a woman rule over another woman, they chafe.

the males that do coach, have to have no temptations. and one percent sanity. plus understand women.

alsal is not one hundred percent sane, nor is cain, who is weak mentally.

sal is not the type to understand women.

so goes the shitshow.

i guess nikearrogance karma has to play out.

should read above one hundred percent sanity.

cain is way off the rails

Died of what, weighing 122 instead of 114? Are you joking?

longjack wrote:

cain is way off the rails

Keep up the victim blaming.

bleu wrote:

Died of what, weighing 122 instead of 114? Are you joking?

Cardiac arrest or suicide for starters.

OK, I'll bite.

Female here.

I ran mid-distance D1. I can run a marathon well within the US time to go to the Marathon Trials (I'm not a citizen, however, as I am British).

I watch my weight. Intensely. I'm naturally skinny.

I also dislike Nike. Intensely.

I always liked Mary Cain, and I still do. HOWEVER, nobody at NOP 'made her' do anything. I am a bit tired of people playing the victim and saying I was 'made' to do this. If anybody 'made her' do something, it was her parents. Coach Salazar, not my favourite person at all by the way, did not MAKE her do this.

As a human being with her own volition, she could (and ultimately did) leave the team.

Salazar was a jerk? Yes he was. But he is right...to a point, thinner is better. To a point, of course.

TinaInCali wrote:

OK, I'll bite.

Female here.

I ran mid-distance D1. I can run a marathon well within the US time to go to the Marathon Trials (I'm not a citizen, however, as I am British).

I watch my weight. Intensely. I'm naturally skinny.

I also dislike Nike. Intensely.

I always liked Mary Cain, and I still do. HOWEVER, nobody at NOP 'made her' do anything. I am a bit tired of people playing the victim and saying I was 'made' to do this. If anybody 'made her' do something, it was her parents. Coach Salazar, not my favourite person at all by the way, did not MAKE her do this.

As a human being with her own volition, she could (and ultimately did) leave the team.

Salazar was a jerk? Yes he was. But he is right...to a point, thinner is better. To a point, of course.

Actually she was paid to do the things she had to do to keep her job. So yes they did make her do it. She was under contract to run for Salazar so she had to be there and follow his rules. Otherwise she would have been allowed to eat in front of everyone and not have the sneak food to eat in her room.

Did she eat with the team? Or in some sort of cafeteria? I am wondering, because I saw an interview with Koko in which she said she is preparing her own food.

Captain Steve wrote:

Hateraid wrote:

Actually she was paid to do the things she had to do to keep her job. So yes they did make her do it. She was under contract to run for Salazar so she had to be there and follow his rules. Otherwise she would have been allowed to eat in front of everyone and not have the sneak food to eat in her room.

Did she eat with the team? Or in some sort of cafeteria? I am wondering, because I saw an interview with Koko in which she said she is preparing her own food.

I don't know the rules of the dictator of when and where they were allowed to eat. But I did read she was sneaking protein bars in her room and scared that someone would hear her opening the wrappers.