Confused... wrote:
The Nike Androgen Project wrote:I think this might be one from yesterday, but you can't tell with the jacket over his head.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uEfdlrFOt3U/hqdefault.jpgAre you trying to suggest that is Mo? Slight problem in that the guy in the photo is white and Mo is black...
That is the brownest white guy ever.
wejo wrote:
I've received more texts [ from my nut case associates ] on that article congratulating me than any other. in a while. Also received an email from a British journalist saying nice job on it.
to bad wrote:
The 800 race in Barcelona is cancelled.
From a guys instagram yesterday:
"Race in Barcelona cancelled. Happened some things just outside Barcelona yesterday with people who had with my race to do. However, got a good workout in instead and now back home, preparing for a 1500 next week."
Soon Russia, China and similar countries will be the only free places where athletes can compete, without being harassed by the retarded nut case drug believer psychopaths.
I'm personally looking forward to this.
Russia ~ land of the free wrote:
Soon Russia, China and similar countries will be the only free places where athletes can compete, without being harassed by the retarded nut case drug believer psychopaths.
I'm personally looking forward to this.
Hi J.R.
Qatari middle-distance runner Musaeb Abdulrahman Balla was held by Spanish police in doping probe, says official
Earthbound wrote:
This is an incredibly weak story on the Farah connection. You guys generally do good work, but quit playing us for fools with your sensationalist garbage.
If you started to dig just a little, it wouldn't be hard to make a connection between hundreds of clean athletes that have been on a track at the same time as Adens group or have had a picture with some of his stars. To start with, you clearly don't have any understanding of the Somali and Ethiopian culture of friendliness.
Stick to the story at hand and sell the hell out of it. Your sideshow attraction on Farah is lame, however.
and
Metric Miler wrote:
Yeah, really BroJos, you ought to be careful writing stuff like this. It seems obvious that you are implicating Farah, before any alledged offences have even been brought forward by any reputable sources for you to comment on/report and before any evidence against Farah has come out.
Why can't the article be about athletes that Aden has trained such as the Dibaba's, Souleiman and Haroun who both set indoor WRs this year and maybe Makhloufi who rose from being little known to Olympic champion under Aden. They are bigger stories. What will happen to them?
Surely you realise that the likelihood of Farah being implicated in this case is quite slim. Even if he is guilty, it is easy for him to claim coincidence/ignorance given how Aden was never his actual coach. Especially if he doesn't test positive and wasn't there during the raid. Everyone in your photographs can simply say they didn't know Aden was doping some of his athletes. EPO injections into your stomach fat are really quite easy to do in the bathroom in privacy.
It's funny you gusy write this as we've been getting a lot of tweets, emails, etc from journalists praising us for our work,
We spent a lot of time on the piece including a ton of time working on the tone of the piece. What we reported on Farah wasn't a fishing expeditions. Our collleagues in Spain noticed that Farah had tweeted out that he was France training when in reality the photo was from France. When you add in the fact his agent told us he was unaware of Farah ever training there, we felt it was newsworthy.
You can decided for yourself what it means. Was it simply a case of someone living in Flagstaff going down to Phoenix to do a workout and then tweeting a picture from it but saying they are in Flagstaff? That's for you to decide.
I remember when Nicole Brown Simpson died. I working a Dallas TV station as a summer internt. I remember being being shocked when the guy stold me they were going to mention that OJ Simpson had been a domestic abuser. I was like, "There's zero proof he's involved in this at all." The news guys said, "We are reporting facts. You can make that jump if you want to or not. What we are reporting is a fact."
We are doing similar here.
I wish someone would start a thread devoted to possible explanations for him saying he was in one place when he was in another.
LaGraderia â€@LaGraderia
.@iGeorginaOS:"El seu advocat diu que no li han trobat cap substà ncia EPO i només li han confiscat substà ncies multivitamÃniques i de calci"
google translate
@LaGraderia
@ IGeorginaOS "His lawyer says they have not found any substance EPO only have confiscated substances and calcium multivitamÃniques"
rojo wrote:
We spent a lot of time on the piece including a ton of time working on the tone of the piece. What we reported on Farah wasn't a fishing expeditions. Our collleagues in Spain noticed that Farah had tweeted out that he was France training when in reality the photo was from France. When you add in the fact his agent told us he was unaware of Farah ever training there, we felt it was newsworthy.
What??
rojo wrote:
Earthbound wrote:This is an incredibly weak story on the Farah connection. You guys generally do good work, but quit playing us for fools with your sensationalist garbage.
If you started to dig just a little, it wouldn't be hard to make a connection between hundreds of clean athletes that have been on a track at the same time as Adens group or have had a picture with some of his stars. To start with, you clearly don't have any understanding of the Somali and Ethiopian culture of friendliness.
Stick to the story at hand and sell the hell out of it. Your sideshow attraction on Farah is lame, however.
and
Metric Miler wrote:
Yeah, really BroJos, you ought to be careful writing stuff like this. It seems obvious that you are implicating Farah, before any alledged offences have even been brought forward by any reputable sources for you to comment on/report and before any evidence against Farah has come out.
Why can't the article be about athletes that Aden has trained such as the Dibaba's, Souleiman and Haroun who both set indoor WRs this year and maybe Makhloufi who rose from being little known to Olympic champion under Aden. They are bigger stories. What will happen to them?
Surely you realise that the likelihood of Farah being implicated in this case is quite slim. Even if he is guilty, it is easy for him to claim coincidence/ignorance given how Aden was never his actual coach. Especially if he doesn't test positive and wasn't there during the raid. Everyone in your photographs can simply say they didn't know Aden was doping some of his athletes. EPO injections into your stomach fat are really quite easy to do in the bathroom in privacy.
It's funny you gusy write this as we've been getting a lot of tweets, emails, etc from journalists praising us for our work,
We spent a lot of time on the piece including a ton of time working on the tone of the piece. What we reported on Farah wasn't a fishing expeditions. Our collleagues in Spain noticed that Farah had tweeted out that he was France training when in reality the photo was from France. When you add in the fact his agent told us he was unaware of Farah ever training there, we felt it was newsworthy.
You can decided for yourself what it means. Was it simply a case of someone living in Flagstaff going down to Phoenix to do a workout and then tweeting a picture from it but saying they are in Flagstaff? That's for you to decide.
I remember when Nicole Brown Simpson died. I working a Dallas TV station as a summer internt. I remember being being shocked when the guy stold me they were going to mention that OJ Simpson had been a domestic abuser. I was like, "There's zero proof he's involved in this at all." The news guys said, "We are reporting facts. You can make that jump if you want to or not. What we are reporting is a fact."
We are doing similar here.
I wish someone would start a thread devoted to possible explanations for him saying he was in one place when he was in another.
Sure it can be newsworthy, on a slow day.
The picture is from 2014. Who even says Farah was in Spain with Jama Aden in 2014? Many athletes go and use that track.
Who is to say that Farah is in sole control of his Twitter account? Why would Ricky Simms want to admit anything to you when he feels (rightly) that you are trying to build some kind of case against his athlete?
I've said before, Farah may well be dirty. But this picture of Farah at a track in Spain, in 2014, means little. Far less than his doorbell not working.
The write up was good, these guys are just bored and have nothing better to do than nit-pick at stupid sh*t.
Get over yourselves.
Good Article!
rjm33 wrote:
Dieter Baumann also used to train in Flagstaff, Az.
Now that I'm married and once again a huge baseball fan, I'm not on the messageboard as much as I used to. Can someone please explain to me what the "used to train in Flagstaff, AZ" argument is.
It appears to be the dumbest argument in history. Flagsatff is one of the few places in the Western world where it's easy to do high low training. Lots of pros have trained there (and we take credit for helping get the word out on the place as that's where we were when we launched letsrun).
Correlation and cuasation are two different things. It would be like saying lots of people who competed at the 2012 Olympics tested positive. No duh.
He destroyed his 1500m PR over a year after he dropped him as a coach. Actually, he set all his main PBs after he dropped him as a coach. That doesn't dismiss the fact that he may have gotten some secret sauce, knowingly or not (like from the Torrance quote).
Makhloufi wrote:
Makloufi is an intelligient guy. I would guess he either
-was doping, but wanted to try and run clean so changed coaches, hence his less strong performances since
-was doping, and knew if he left Aden it would be harder for the iaaf to prove he cheated in 2012 if either Aden or him were caught later, so he could retain his olympic title
Mr. Obvious wrote:
rojo wrote:We spent a lot of time on the piece including a ton of time working on the tone of the piece. What we reported on Farah wasn't a fishing expeditions. Our collleagues in Spain noticed that Farah had tweeted out that he was France training when in reality the photo was from France. When you add in the fact his agent told us he was unaware of Farah ever training there, we felt it was newsworthy.
What??
I think he means- in reality the photo was from Spain.
rojo wrote:
rjm33 wrote:Dieter Baumann also used to train in Flagstaff, Az.
Now that I'm married and once again a huge baseball fan, I'm not on the messageboard as much as I used to. Can someone please explain to me what the "used to train in Flagstaff, AZ" argument is.
It appears to be the dumbest argument in history. Flagsatff is one of the few places in the Western world where it's easy to do high low training. Lots of pros have trained there (and we take credit for helping get the word out on the place as that's where we were when we launched letsrun).
Correlation and cuasation are two different things. It would be like saying lots of people who competed at the 2012 Olympics tested positive. No duh.
It's simply the theory that certain places are hubs of drug access, distribution and use and that elite athletes looking to use drugs tend to congregate there.
I honestly don't have an opinion on whether the is causation or correlation.
rjm33 has posted a lot of eye-opening stuff, though, you ought to pay attention to his posts.
More importantly, this EPO story proves that:
- the biological passport 's thresholds are too high
or (and)
- the IAAF can still be bribed,
because no Aden runner had a suspicious blood test.
Bad "news", either way. Something must change.
I think the focus should be on the Aden trained athletes.
Asking Mo questions is fine but I am not seeing why the focus immediately went to him and not the people there or the other Aden athletes.
I am not sure why an email to Salazar is supposed to mean anything. I think it is pretty common for coaches to discuss workouts. Maybe there is more there.
Something that never dawned on me (not that anyone is going to read this, 15 pages in!) is WHO is taking this photo. Mo posted this on his twitter or IG, right? but notice that Mo has a phone sitting in front of him on the table. Also notice that you can see both his hands. Drouich appears to be the one taking the photo. So, if this is the case, that means that Drouich had to SEND the photo to Mo, likely via text. Not that it matters much, but you can *almost* buy the "i didn't really know the guy" excuse...except you have each others phone numbers and you're close enough that you not only have dinner, but also text each other? No way, Mo know's damn well who Drouich is, and they (were) buddies, no bones about it.I feel bad for Mo, but this whole thing is pretty damning.
cleans wrote:
Any source for Mo's denial? Could be embarrassing for him. Maybe the guy he is having dinner with below is just a Driouch lookalike:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03215/mo_3215286a.jpg:)
rojo wrote:
It's funny you gusy write this as we've been getting a lot of tweets, emails, etc from journalists praising us for our work,
"we doubt that retired star Haile Gebrselassie is currently on the juice"
this part was especially good lol!
knower of things. wrote:
Something that never dawned on me (not that anyone is going to read this, 15 pages in!) is WHO is taking this photo. Mo posted this on his twitter or IG, right? but notice that Mo has a phone sitting in front of him on the table. Also notice that you can see both his hands. Drouich appears to be the one taking the photo. So, if this is the case, that means that Drouich had to SEND the photo to Mo, likely via text. Not that it matters much, but you can *almost* buy the "i didn't really know the guy" excuse...except you have each others phone numbers and you're close enough that you not only have dinner, but also text each other? No way, Mo know's damn well who Drouich is, and they (were) buddies, no bones about it.
I feel bad for Mo, but this whole thing is pretty damning.
cleans wrote:Any source for Mo's denial? Could be embarrassing for him. Maybe the guy he is having dinner with below is just a Driouch lookalike:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03215/mo_3215286a.jpg:)
bluetooth
Re: Mo's Twitter Page
(Link:
https://twitter.com/Mo_Farah/status/489377445368569857/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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I'm not sure whether the track Mo Farah is training on does or does not look like Font Romeu, but it definitely doesn't look like the videos or photographs that are purported to be Sabadell. The trees and building are all different.
Can someone explain why everyone is convinced the pictured photograph from Mo Farah's twitter feed is actually Sabadell?? It's not clear from the main page article.
