Coach Joe, humor me, you believe those emails or pictures to be fake. Why do you believe that, is there any damning evidence to support you to believe that? Or are you just basing it on how you feel? The rest of us use evidence to support our opinion.
To believe it was fake, you would need to know:
Seth's email address
Seth's grandparents mailing address
Seth's Mom's name and at least some working knowledge of her writing style in order to create the preview of an ostensibly fake email she sent on Seth's behalf to ISU staff
How to de-obfuscate Google's Gmail code to create a pixel-perfect local working prototype with zero CSS, scripting, or run-time errors
How to create a local webserver to simulate the act of pulling information in the same way, and/or the knowledge to create static links within the prototype to support the display of multiple threads
A store that sells EPO and the design of their invoice
Doing all of these things just to randomly frame someone is so insanely unlikely I cannot imagine anyone would be stupid enough to believe it, or stupid enough to think that someone else would believe it.
Your post is scarey. You are advocating for lawlessness. Are you okay with me breaking into your house to find your tax forms because I know that you falsely claimed a deduction?
Your post is scarey. You are advocating for lawlessness. Are you okay with me breaking into your house to find your tax forms because I know that you falsely claimed a deduction?
I appreciate that you're finally admitting that Seth is a cheating scumbag.
Coach Joe, humor me, you believe those emails or pictures to be fake. Why do you believe that, is there any damning evidence to support you to believe that? Or are you just basing it on how you feel? The rest of us use evidence to support our opinion.
Here are my thoughts on the email video.
We don't know who made the video, how they gained access or when it was made.
The search for "epo" turned up only a few items. Seems too perfect that just these emails turned up and nothing that may be unrelated to running or drugs.
The video didn't screenshot the tracking information. That is information that can be verified through a 3rd party and verify that a package actually existed and was delivered.
I find it odd that he would use the dark web to make an illegal purchase and use his personal Gmail account to do it. And to do this AFTER rumors of ped use was already circulating.
All the video contains is what looks like a Gmail inbox and a receipt. Receipts can be faked, people have been doing that a hundred years.
All of this makes me question the legitimacy of the screenshots in that video.
Your post is scarey. You are advocating for lawlessness. Are you okay with me breaking into your house to find your tax forms because I know that you falsely claimed a deduction?
Yes. Would you like my address? I can assure you this will backfire for you as 1) no falsely claimed deductions and 2) I’m obsessively pro 2A.
tsmall@njacsports.com (Terry Small) tuckers@rowan.edu (Shawn Tucker) Dear Mr. Tucker and Mr. Small, I am writing on behalf of hundreds of Division III student-athletes to express our grave concern regarding the documented dop...
24 hours before the entire thing went down my GC started going crazy that Iowa State was (allegedly) under a doping scandal as someone got caught and (allegedly) Seth was the ring leader (native ties) and there was a whistleblower. The news broke out to everyone that people from Iowa State got suspended and as many did, the masses chalked it up to the top-7 guys being the ones who got suspended based on results from Nuttycombe. We were waiting for the Big 12 lineups and what did ya know, none of the Top-7 were suspended for allegedly doping like the closeted racists were expecting, it was basically just a bunch of Americans that got suspended.
Now if you think that doping isn’t an issue in the NCAA, there’s (allegedly) a DI All-American 1500m who has been taking something.
Seth's Mom's name and at least some working knowledge of her writing style in order to create the preview of an ostensibly fake email she sent on Seth's behalf to ISU staff
How to de-obfuscate Google's Gmail code to create a pixel-perfect local working prototype with zero CSS, scripting, or run-time errors
How to create a local webserver to simulate the act of pulling information in the same way, and/or the knowledge to create static links within the prototype to support the display of multiple threads
A store that sells EPO and the design of their invoice
Doing all of these things just to randomly frame someone is so insanely unlikely I cannot imagine anyone would be stupid enough to believe it, or stupid enough to think that someone else would believe it.
Is that Seth's email address? Do we know that for sure? If it can be verified then it is something that could have been known prior.
Again, if you can look on the internet and verify that it is in fact his grandparents address then this is also something that could be determined prior.
I doubt it is very difficult to find Seth's mom's name. How do you know that is in her particular writing style. You don't know.
I'm still unclear about what people are seeing in this video. What actually was "working", what I saw was some scrolling and one message opened. Is there more video somewhere?
You only need to create a hyperlink that opens a document that looks like an email receipt. Not hard to do.
You do not need to design an invoice that is the same as that storefront's invoices. Nobody knows the difference. Make a fake receipt, nobody knows what a real illegal epo shop receipt looks like.
A Johns Hopkins freshman dropped from 9:22 6 months ago to 14 flat. His teammate dropped ton13:58 from 15:30 freshman year of college.
5% acceptance rate university btw, also I know a (non d1) athlete who went from 17:00 and is now running 14:10s and is cleaner than any of the guys who got suspended from Iowa state will ever be.
try harder, rowan really moved to a cherry picking conference just to get steamrolled
We can all agree it’s silly to point fingers at other programs. This situation isn't about what other D3 teams/athletes are doing! Also to be fair to them, Rowan's jumps and sprints coaches are some of the best coaching staff for any collegiate track and field program, full stop. Give Norm Tate a search!
Also, think about what types of athletes would be recruited to run for top level academic institutions in D3. Ivy League Schools don't offer athletic scholarships. For a blue chip recruit who is also very strong academically, it begins to make sense why they'd choose to attend or land at an elite institution in D3 where they can have a big team impact, receive high level coaching, get a lot of institutional athletic support (reminder some D3 schools have D1 sports like Lax/Hockey so a lot of money in athletics), and maybe is a better fit if they don't want running to be their whole life? If they wanted to spend less time in the classroom / library and more time living the pro runner lifestyle they'd probably choose to wind up elsewhere.
Are you asking me? I have no idea, but there are only two options I can think of: 1) email was logged in and accessible to the person who took video or 2) person who took the video had the password to access the email. Option 1 seems more probable unless sc was sharing his password.
He was obviously just sharing his password and some no good teammate of his ordered drugs from his email address to his family members house and then injected them into him in his sleep. Roommate seems most likely, because then he probably wouldn't have even needed to share the password. Seth is clearly innocent.
The fact that the email contains a real but basically unknown grey web vendor selling EPO that’s shipped to the address of a relative makes the fake theory implausible. It would take very high level skills to fake something like this and it’s unclear who would have both the skill and the incentive to do so.
We keep talking about SC but if Im being honest the MIT track and field team has a 4:01 and 4:02 miler + a 1:49 guy and you're telling me their mid-distance squad isn't fishy. And even looking back at Ryan wilson everyone around him got fast. The power of friendship isn't that powerful!
That's a good point I forgot the MIT guys also got kicked off previous teams and had email leaks of their EPO receipts
It's also MIT... one of the few D3 schools where it shouldn't be surprising if anyone no matter how good of a runner chose it over a D1/D2 school.