tacomafan wrote:
If you read Mary's description of trying to go back to NOP, she describes it as the point where the scales fell from her eyes and she saw Alberto for what he is.
I think someone needs to get Jordan away from her current situation.Remember the pressure Salazar put on her - "If you don't improve (read: Do EVERYTHING I say), I won't be able to coach you anymore". Jordan has Stockholm Syndrome.
Well he can't coach her anymore anyway.
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Rupp Fan Boy wrote:
So in Jordan's first post in almost a month, she praises an "Ablerto friend" (David McHenry), posts a picture revealing how lean and fit she is, quotes Kobe Bryant about not quiting, and behind her is a quote from the first woman to summit Mt Everset saying getting to the top requires will power, "Technique and ability alone do not get you to the top — it is the will power that is the most important."
I see it as a dig on Mary!
https://www.instagram.com/jordanhasay/
Hasay posts stuff like this all the time. It has nothing to do with Mary
She's a robot same with Rupp.
They will never bash Alberto. They're both 100% obedient to their master.
NDAsssss wrote:
Jzsbbs wrote:
Regardless of whether or not she reached out privately, it’s tasteless to post something the next day that doesn’t even acknowledge what happened.
Magness said something on Twitter about how all NOP athletes and staff are under NDAs. Legally, Hasay may not be able to say anything unless she wants Nike to come after her. And yes, while NOP has disbanded, there may be a scope on the NDA that survives termination of the group (if that was contemplated).
I don't hold it against any NOP athletes for being silent on the matter. I wouldn't want Nike suing me.
But really if all these athletes are getting paid as little as everyone claims - who cares if Nike goes after them as they have nothing to lose. As someone pointed out it's more how Nike controls the sport and potential careers but if all the athletes stood together and refused to work with Nike until changes were made then the sport would have to do something. They're making a choice - money or integrity and you might not hold it against them but it's still their choice.
However I see this as an opportunity for Nike to save face - I see them distancing their athletes from Salazar and this was why none of the other veteran athletes or women on the team (Shannon, Jordan, etc.) supported Mary or reached out to help her because they were all being emotionally abused and manipulated by Salazar. I think they also would have to clean house with his staff then but that might still be coming - you know as part of their big "investigation." Possibly assistants from Schumacher's group would take it over.
Yeh, I got a creepy vibe once. Many years ago, I met Hasay's Mom. I ran a mile race at an all comers meet and Hasay was in the race too. It was my first race of the season and went out there to have fun and see what I could comfortably run a mile in with winter mileage. Her Mom came up to me after the race, shook my hand, and informed me of how old she was at the time. I didn't know who Jordan was and actually have no idea where she'd placed behind me....probably second. It was a bit off putting, to be honest.
Anyways, it's possible Jordan did post to subtly throw shade, and maybe Mary will know that. But, I think it's best for all of us just to assume good intent. For Jordan's sake, I do hope that it didn't mean anything. She's better off focusing on her recovery and herself. Negativity can destroy at person.
jiaaf wrote:
Ablerto wrote:
Who is Ablerto?
You have never heard the story about Cain and Ablerto?
You mean Cain and Abel from Genesis right
Imethermomonce wrote:
Anyways, it's possible Jordan did post to subtly throw shade, and maybe Mary will know that. But, I think it's best for all of us just to assume good intent. For Jordan's sake, I do hope that it didn't mean anything. She's better off focusing on her recovery and herself. Negativity can destroy at person.
You guys are morons.
She posted this to tag the company that's sponsoring her.
"my hamstring is feeling better and I’m hitting the rehab hard with @smarttoolsusa Smart Cuffs!"
If you don't see that, you're probably a BOOMER who doesn't know how instagram works.
This has nothing to do with Mary.
This barely has anything to do with Jordan.
It's an AD.
A FREAKING advertisement for 'Smart Cuffs'
She got paid for it. You're giving her more money by clicking on it.
So dumb.
ohthedangledwebweweave wrote:
You mean Cain and Abel from Genesis right
You mean Genesis the band, right?
macdaddy wrote:
If you don't see that, you're probably a BOOMER who doesn't know how instagram works.
This has nothing to do with Mary.
This barely has anything to do with Jordan.
It's an AD.
A FREAKING advertisement for 'Smart Cuffs'
She got paid for it. You're giving her more money by clicking on it.
So dumb.
Not as dumb as giving 'Smart Cuffs' a free plug on LetsRun and bringing them to the attention of millions of readers around the world. Well done moron.
Anyway, I'm happy to bring a few dollars Jordan's way, she a hard working, non-whining, honest runner, we need more like her.
macdaddy wrote:
She posted this to tag the company that's sponsoring her.
Posted as in mailed via USPS? I did not know you mail things to Instagram. Do you use a regular stamp, or is there a special internet stamp?
It isn't mere coincidence that Mary decided to come public with her story after talking on the phone with Kara Goucher for two hours.
I used to support Kara Goucher and the whistleblowing, but this has now turned to MeToo hysteria and Kara is turning into Rose McGowan with her all out vengeance and Frank Shorter joined her bandwagon.
Focus on the facts. Focus against NOP and Alberto should remain on the doping allegations.
MeToo is not about female empowerment. MeToo is backwards feminism. Metoo promotes the idea that women are helpless victims. So women can't be coached my men?
Wetmore should retire before he is the next #T&FMeToo victim. He worked with Dr Brown too right?
mcgowan wrote:
It isn't mere coincidence that Mary decided to come public with her story after talking on the phone with Kara Goucher for two hours.
I used to support Kara Goucher and the whistleblowing, but this has now turned to MeToo hysteria and Kara is turning into Rose McGowan with her all out vengeance and Frank Shorter joined her bandwagon.
Focus on the facts. Focus against NOP and Alberto should remain on the doping allegations.
MeToo is not about female empowerment. MeToo is backwards feminism. Metoo promotes the idea that women are helpless victims. So women can't be coached my men?
Wetmore should retire before he is the next #T&FMeToo victim. He worked with Dr Brown too right?
Where did you read she spoke with Kara for two hours? This whole thing smelled of Kara from the beginning but I didn’t see any actual evidence of a link.
Robot overlords wrote:
She's a robot same with Rupp.
They will never bash Alberto. They're both 100% obedient to their master.
This. Plus neither Jordan nor Rupp are the sharpest knives in the drawer.
Honestly Guys....We have to address the issue of some coaches obsession on weight. Salazar seemed like he pushed to the absolute threshold on ethics ...riding right on the gray zone. I don’t know about the PEDs but the obsession of weight is something that the running culture is hyper focused on. We need more of the top athletes to throw up the middle finger to unhealthy fueling habits (like NOT getting enough calories or hyper focusing on food). Good for Mary for taking a stand...good for Cam for offering support.
And don’t give me the BS about these ppl are professional...this is an issue that trickles down to even the lowest competitive level if running/racing.
Both Jordan and Galen seem to have complied with Albertos weight standards (they’re both crazy skinny) and both also seem to get injured and DNF almost every major marathon they hype up their appearance at
They both have professional medals around their necks. But neither of them cut themselves for attention. There are some who have a very strong will even though weighed by heavy expectations, and some who do not.
Both are really awesome athletes. Nike & Alberto can take the L as far as Kara and Mary are considered.
I think we can all agree though that - Epstein didn’t kill himself
I don't really understand your post, but Salazar made Kara's career. Kara expressed her appreciation for Salazar and what he did for her career at its peak in an almost weird/deity type of way. It was only when she was over-the-hill and lost the confidence of Salazar that she decided he was not the greatest coach ever, but rather some kind of devil. So no loss due to his coaching of Kara, other than seeing a has-been act like Glen Close in Fatal Attraction when they separated.
In my opinion Mary was a disaster from the very beginning. I always thought that Mary's over-zealous, over-emoting, over-positive and over-bubbly interviews whenever she was on camera always seemed disingenuous. That was the first red flag I saw.
She was paid a lot of money, and now she wants to go on Dr. Phil.