I’ve gone from big Kipchoge fan to disliking him

Lol literally the most significant thing to happen to running in years, you might actually have a way to relate your hobby to the real world and you want to sh@t on it.

So you basically have nothing.

Also Kipchoge who gives less than 2 feucks about LRC is probably the best speaker for the sport and every jealous basement dweller can't handle jealousy.

Per usual, do better, LRC. Why are you promoting this thread instead of our sport? Kipchoge is the best thing we have & did something special with whatever enhancements he may have had. He's still super inspiring and media like ESPN who never cover the sport are covering it. We should be excited but instead we come here and see the negative right away.

.I don't know guys.

This is bittersweet to me, don't get me wrong, I like Kipchoge, he's a very hardworking man, he's humble, talented and is proving we can break a lot of limits if we focus. But at the same time, we have to remember we aren't Kipchoge, and even if we're better than him in somethings, at the end of the day we don't have a whole group of scientis helping us, we don't have special "shoes" to help us break our everyday limits.

I felt more motivated because Bekele was able to comeback after so many Injuries, that is something more relatable, but Kipchoge is different, he is like an exception to every rule, and maybe thats why I don't feel the same happyness, when I see him, I don't see our everyday struggles.

But hey, this is just me, maybe i'm just jealus.

Sorry, I'm Still learning English

Kipchoge is to Bekele as Rupp is to Solinsky. Is that an accurate analogy?

I have to give credit where it is due, there is some first class garbage being talked by the "unimpressed"

MadDesire wrote:

, at the end of the day we don't have a whole group of scientis helping us, we don't have special "shoes" to help us break our everyday limits.

So much like we get improvements to consumer cars from racing, we get shoe clothing and supplement improvement from racing. Advances in shoe technology were never for you to begin with. They were for elites.

Jesus hopping jealousy wrote:

So much like we get improvements to consumer cars from racing, we get shoe clothing and supplement improvement from racing. Advances in shoe technology were never for you to begin with. They were for elites.

Thats why I feel empty about this, it wasnt for "humanity" after all, it's a bussines. It was kipchoges goal, not mine. Entertaining yes, motivating no, for me at least.

I'm a huge Bekele fan and a huge Kipchoge fan. It will be fun to watch them in Tokyo. Geez...Imagine that. It's like Yahweh vs Zeus. Those of you who are dismissing Kipchoge's performance, then stop using technology. The purpose of science is to make life and us better.

I'm a bigger fan of Eluid than ever. I've been a fan since the 2003 WC 5000. Other highlights include his 2012 indoor 2-mile where he beat Mo. Also his 2008 Olympic silver behind Kenny was a darn good run.

Around his 2nd marathon, when was it, 2013, 2014? I thought, this is his event, he'll win the Olympics.

Look, if you could wear fancy shoes and run under 2 hours, you'd do it, yes?

Of course!

Impressive achievement. But it wasn’t a marathon. A marathon is a race. What he did is no different from the Japanese multiple “marathon” guys who daily run 26.2 miles starting outside their front doors.

He covered the distance but he didn’t compete. Sports is about competition. If they had gotten the world’s fastest marathon runners and offered a $100,000 to anyone breaking two hours and a million to the winner then that would have been a race and exciting to watch.

This was just a science experiment. A treadmill run under 2 hours would have been as impressive.

now thats impressive

MadDesire wrote:

.I don't know guys.

This is bittersweet to me, don't get me wrong, I like Kipchoge, he's a very hardworking man, he's humble, talented and is proving we can break a lot of limits if we focus. But at the same time, we have to remember we aren't Kipchoge, and even if we're better than him in somethings, at the end of the day we don't have a whole group of scientis helping us, we don't have special "shoes" to help us break our everyday limits.

Yes, we do!

Check out the shoes you put on the next time you go for a run and compare them to shoes from 20 years ago. Check out the training plans or nutrition plans available at the click of a button, developed with the help of whole groups of scientists.

We may not be Kipchoge, but we still have a lot of things helping us break our limits, too.

Some random bloke wrote:

It surprises me how in just a couple weeks I’ve become more of a Bekele fan. This second attempt with even more enhanced shoes and continuing to say that this is for humanity? Humans aren’t limited? Then why not break 2 in Berlin or even NYC? I confess I didn’t know until watching the INEOS documentaries that he spends so much time away from his family and wanted a wife that was “not as talkative.”

yes, you are utterly stupid.

he ran 26.2 miles to show that breaking 2 hours on a flat pancake course could be done.

He only had 2 things that aided him, but those 2 things are available in Berlin, London, and many other races.

You can't fault Kipchoge for going for the $. No mention in this thread about this but I'm sure he's made off well. Good for him. However the cost was (as I'm sure he well knew), setting it up for the most probability of success (and return on sponsor dollars). That meant the shoes, the pacing, the green line, the car, the track, the bottles and feeding and probably a lot more we are unaware of .... I'm surprised they didn't put a big fan on a truck behind him.

I don’t understand the mind boggling ignorance here. Stunning.

This is an experiment to see if someone can break 2 under totally optimized conditions.

The things you are calling cheating were intentional. It’s not a race. The concept of cheating is not relevant as it’s not a competition. It’s an experiment.

People have run this distance for a very long time without anyone breaking 2. Many have been doped while trying to do it in races before yet nobody has done it. Maybe kipchoge is doping as well. But up to this point nobody has done it in a race. Now you know that it’s possible if everything is optimized. Maybe even the doping too.

Why the F not try it? Why would anyone be opposed to seeing if it’s possible since nobody has ever done it? What the f is wrong with you?

Let me get this straight....

Kipchoge grew up in poverty, living in a f-ING hut or something and had a childhood filled with hard labor and deprivation. By insane will and determination he has risen from one of the lowest positions in the world (poverty in a corrupt third world country and broken family to boot) to achieve unbelievable success.

You are dissing him because he can’t relate to......your......struggles?

Wow. I think you have pushed past a threshold of retardation that I never thought was possible. Even here.

Truly a break through day.

Warrington wrote:

EssosLandi wrote:

Why should we be impressed?

This comment epitomizes the modern human being in the West. As he sits in front of his computer, he is seldom impressed, always envious, agitated and anxious for being inadequate. He then projects his misery as doubt, condemnation, skepticism or apathy.

You epitomize what is wrong with the human being in the West. Swallowing glorified exhibitions like if it was real sport, taking short cuts instead of doing it the right way.

You are eating what Nike and Ineos are asking you to eat. You can't think by yourself. You are a sheep.

Why hate someone who has done something no one has ever done? It is not a world record. It just seems silly that haters like you come on here to put down something extremely fast for many people to see. Things that were once "impossible" are now possible. This is exciting.....fun....and different than the boring running events that go on all around the world. Kipchoge is innovative and pioneer for a new world of running. Stop hating on this. Focus your hatred on the NOP, Salazar, Rupp, and possibly Nike not kipchoge. This man is a role model....period.

all this "for humanity" stuff is a bit too schmaltzy for my liking but it doesn't take away from what he did.

...the AlphaFly shoes on the other hand.