The Mo Farah slayer is back. Muktar Edris wins SENSATIONAL 5k. Pre would be proud of Jakob!!!

The "show" is broadcasted on the Norwegian version of BBC. They dont get paid, its more like a documentary that gives an insight view to the family.

Jakob admitted as the first thing he said after the run that he gave everything, but simple wasnt good enough. And ended the interview by saying that he needs to go home and train harder. Pretty humble if you ask me.

Norway invented national institutional guided doping . Not Russia.

I'd like to point out that white people look like idiots when they call black people "racist". If you are white, you will never understand what racism is like, what it feels like, especially in the United States of America.

As for Jakob, he's a darn great runner, pretty good for a kid, a little too aggressive at times. And Edris, let's just say he's one of these guys who pretty much know he's going to win on the starting line. Sorta like that guy Mo used to be.

By using legal asthmatic medicine and by no means try to hide it? Hilarious!

Aaleby wrote:

5000Legends wrote:

In a way i am glad, humble, hard working runners are winning competition vs entitled, over mediatized, TV reality show runners even if Jakob is of course training very hard.

Olympics and running are not about youtube, views, cameras and TV shows but about what you can accomplish. And Edris did it twice, a great champion. Looking forward to see him at Tokyo.

The "show" is broadcasted on the Norwegian version of BBC. They dont get paid, its more like a documentary that gives an insight view to the family.

Jakob admitted as the first thing he said after the run that he gave everything, but simple wasnt good enough. And ended the interview by saying that he needs to go home and train harder. Pretty humble if you ask me.

He does seem like a humble guy, even if he shows his ambition. But I find a bit unfair that people are rooting for him because he has TV shows, social media existance, while they are ignoring extremely talented runners because theses runners don't expose themselves or have no media coverage like Edris. Nobody cared about him, I made a thread announcing his victory and people ignored it, only talking about Jakob. A little frustrating.

Henrik I. wrote:

First of all, he should have been DQ'd for trying to pass on the inside in the prelim and should never have been allowed to race the final.

But then in the final, how many times can he push and shove and trip up other runners before he gets punished for it so that he'll learn his lesson? You can't just keep running into people and expect them to be ok with it!

Totally. Tripped Ahmed at least twice from behind.

I want to like Jakob but I’m completely disgusted by his race tactics. Stop trying to pass people on the inside and get off their asses. I’ve got kids who are young runners and I have to explain how they are NEVER allowed to do what he’s doing. Shouldn’t have to have that conversation. Not a good ambassador for the sport at all.

I'm an American... wrote:

Jakob is soooo overrated. All he does is clip other runners and tries to push his way through a race. As regards to Jakob being relatable, not to me. I'm an American.

He's 19, and is double European champion with pb's of 3:30 and 13:02...how is that overrated? Don't be silly.

Ejdndjsjsjs wrote:

As a Canadian I was wanting Ahmed to win and I was frustrated by Jakob running into him three or four times.

That being said, you idiots being so gleeful about a teenager failing (if finishing 5th in the world as a teenager is failing) are pathetic. You probably also celebrated Mary Cain’s challenges. Strange psychological reaction to me.

Well stated. There are some very strange people here, to be sure.

Saipan wrote:

Trackier wrote:

Prefer to see Ahmed, an honest hard working runner, get the bronze.

Yes, I agree. Fabulous race from him, reminiscent of Farah 2 laps out.

However, I have no sympathy for Jakob, who raced like a total d!ck and doesn’t deserve anything. The white supremacists on this board will cry and point their fingers, calling me a racist, but I lost count of the number of times Jakob shoved or tripped someone else during the race.

If an East African did that, you can sure as hell believe that Coevett&co would scream and whine about the need for a disqualification and fire away furiously on their keyboards in mummy’s basement.

Please go away with your racist name calling. That kind of $hit is part of the problem. It has gotten stale, and is completely uncalled for.

Pretty horrible thread from both sides of this 'argument'.

I'm just gonna say:

Very disappointed in Chelimo after the big talk.

Congratulations to Jakob for doing his best with the pressure put on him by European media outlets. Very brave run and 5th place is extremely commendable for a world final.

That said he needs to tidy up his runs as he nearly ended his own race and Ahmed's on a few occasions, and that's after nearly being DQ in the semi.

Amazing run from Ahmed. Clearly in crazy good form and did extremely well to split the Ethiopians. Has developed his kick supremely well and looked like a world class athlete today. Expect big things.

Huge congratulations to Edris. It was a tough field and he's not shown anything special this year but to defend a title against Barega and the rest was very impressive. Unbelievable last lap.

hurdlesjack wrote:

Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:

This kind of nihilism is corny and lame. I care, and I prefer rooting for the clean athletes.

And wishing that the IAAF would crack down on countries without an anti-doping program is sound policy, not a witch hunt.

The clean athletes- which ones were they again?

Marion Jones was clean as a whistle until she admitted she was doped to the gills, years after the fact. We all know how this game works.

By all means, support clean sport and clean athletes. Support robust doping controls in every country. But if testing is essentially meaningless at the elite level of the sport, let's not pretend we will really ever be able to tell who is who, or even worse, presume entire countries are innocent and others guilty.

It’s defeatist to say that we can never stop people doping. Let’s at least try. Robust controls/labs in all countries. More frequent testing. Better education. Yes, it’s possible to dope in all countries but it’s a darn sight easier when the testing is lax and corruption is rife. August 2018 was the first month an accredited blood lab was approved in East Africa - that’s almost a decade after the introduction of the biological passport. If it was you missing out on hard-earned medals and sponsorship deals (your livelihood) then I’m sure you’d feel less blasé about doping in the sport. Credit to the top guys today, innocent until proven guilty, however a lot of people will justifiably have more satisfaction in the performance of a (black) Canadian than Edris/Barega.

The thread title has changed for whatever reason but 'Pre would be proud of Jakob'...? What?

How on Earth can you legitimately project your own thoughts onto an American who passed away in 1975 about a Norwegian teenager. You have no idea. Such a weird title. Pre might be proud of Ahmed or Knight or just totally indifferent. Weird.

Why did Edris have a different coloured bib?

KB All Day wrote:

Why did Edris have a different coloured bib?

Is this the first event of the championships that you've watched? Reigning champs have a different color bib. So do DL champs.

Big Red wrote:

I'd like to point out that white people look like idiots when they call black people "racist". If you are white, you will never understand what racism is like, what it feels like, especially in the United States of America.

As for Jakob, he's a darn great runner, pretty good for a kid, a little too aggressive at times. And Edris, let's just say he's one of these guys who pretty much know he's going to win on the starting line. Sorta like that guy Mo used to be.

What biased nonsense.

Racism is racism, whatever colour your skin is.

Imagine if a group of Germans or Swedes had gathered together in the stands to boo any non German or non Swedish athlete who took the lead. There would be an international outcry with that country's fans banned or something. The booing from the fans from *certain countries* has been horrible to hear at these Championships.

In the 1990s, the running community (the people who would later frequent letsrun.com, which had not been invented yet), thought most distance runners were clean. That was wrong.

Now, many on these message boards have swung the other way, suggesting that everyone is dirty. I wonder if that is wrong as well, if, ironically, the sport is cleaner now than 1970-2010. Think about it: there was no testing for a long time; and we know that people were blood doping and using roids; then there was the EPO era. Now there is more testing everywhere.

And I think there are a lot of reasons why most Ethiopians are clean. Back in the 1990s, people thought that European runners like Dieter Baumann were dirty but believed that the Ethiopians were clean. The view was the Ethiopians had all sorts of advantages, possibly genetic, but certainly advantages of dirt roads at altitude and group training and competition. The view was not that Ethiopians did not have access to drugs or had different ethical standards, it was just that they did not need to dope.

Why has that view changed? It just doesn't surprise me that Ethiopians are great runners. If they started beating Norwegians in cross-country skiing, then I would be suspicious.

Again, I'm sure that a bunch of Ethiopians and bunch of people from every country dope but not sure why people think that everyone is doping. And I'm all for increased testing everywhere as well.

Jacob needs to clean his tactics.

Aaleby wrote:

In school? wrote:

Is Jakob in college at least?

Just finished high school, no plans of college.

Wasn't it Snell that said there's always time for college after athletics.