WinnytheBish wrote:
Serena Williams is a top 10 athlete of ALL TIME. Let alone best woman. Name 10 athletes who were as dominant in their sport as she has been.
As McEnroe points out ad nauseum, she would have a fairly hard time competing against a high school boys state champ,. She would get nowhere in the CIF tournament. Nonetheless, she is magically one of the greatest athletes of all time, regardless of sex.
Who or what is a "bish"?
Marianne Vos
“The world’s best bike racer is a woman,” Outside Magazine declared in a recent profile. And perhaps it is true: Marianne Vos, a Dutchwoman of 31 who could conceivably race for several more years, received more votes in our survey than any other women’s cyclist, racing or retired, living, or dead.
She currently rides for a team whose name, CCC-Liv, reads like the Roman numeral for 350. And that figure is not much higher than the number of races that Vos has won. Her victories have come in four wildly different disciplines, road racing, track racing, mountain biking, and cyclocross. No man has even approached this kind of dominance in four different cycling disciplines.
Vos is a two-time Olympic gold medalist, a three-time winner of the world championship road race, a seven-time winner of the world cyclocross championship, and a five-time winner of the UCI Women’s Road World Cup, a measure of overall success across the road-racing calendar. She has claimed three editions of the Giro d’Italia Femminile. And we could go on.
Gymnasts: Larisa Latynina and Simone Biles.
WinnytheBish wrote:
Obvi wrote:
Nope. Truth posting.
Or are you going to claim that Serena was at some point one of the top 100 tennis players in the world?
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As to you - Stupid posting?
She's a top 10 athlete of all time, this is a ridiculous post. Get off the sauce.
So . . . someone who got their butt whipped by a #203 ranked tennis player is one of the top 10 best athletes of all time? I guess that makes that #203 ranked tennis player at least #9 on the all time list of best athletes! Indeed, it would appear that professional tennis is where it's at as far as all time best athletes. It seems that at least 204 of the top 10 best athletes of all time are professional tennis players. Impressive!
Seriously, are you some kind of moron?
Margaret Court still has more major titles than Williams. And no "panic room" incident. (And no, "I'm going to ram this ball down your f*cking throat!" Maybe the question should have been who is the greatest bully in women's sport. Williams wins, hands down.)
No love for Paula Newby-Fraser?
PT in Eugene wrote:
Gymnasts: Larisa Latynina and Simone Biles.
Cant believe I needed to get to the 4th page to get to Biles. Gymnast careers typically end at a much earlier age than tennis players, what Simone has been doing is pretty incredible as well.
Armstronglivs wrote:
WinnytheBish wrote:
lol "everyone better than me is cheating"
I thought she only mentioned Williams. But maybe you are extrapolating the point that everyone is smarter than you.
If that was the only comeback you had I'm in great shape here!
Da King of Da Jooze wrote:
WinnytheBish wrote:
Serena Williams is a top 10 athlete of ALL TIME. Let alone best woman. Name 10 athletes who were as dominant in their sport as she has been.
As McEnroe points out ad nauseum, she would have a fairly hard time competing against a high school boys state champ,. She would get nowhere in the CIF tournament. Nonetheless, she is magically one of the greatest athletes of all time, regardless of sex.
Who or what is a "bish"?
John McEnroe is the Skip Bayless/Max Kellerman of the tennis world. She is a female. She is in a separate sport than men's tennis. To compare her to men is interesting but certainly not fair to her. That would be like comparing men to gorillas in weight lifting. Do you think men would have a chance? Get out of here.
"Bish" comes from the same place that words like "da" and "jooze" come from.
Obvi wrote:
WinnytheBish wrote:
She's a top 10 athlete of all time, this is a ridiculous post. Get off the sauce.
So . . . someone who got their butt whipped by a #203 ranked tennis player is one of the top 10 best athletes of all time? I guess that makes that #203 ranked tennis player at least #9 on the all time list of best athletes! Indeed, it would appear that professional tennis is where it's at as far as all time best athletes. It seems that at least 204 of the top 10 best athletes of all time are professional tennis players. Impressive!
Seriously, are you some kind of moron?
It's spelled "moran" thank you very much.
She's almost 38 years old. That's like comparing Bernard Lagat now compared to his former 3:26 self.
"hE'S jUsT a 2:12 MaRAthONEr!!"
WinnytheBish wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
I thought she only mentioned Williams. But maybe you are extrapolating the point that everyone is smarter than you.
If that was the only comeback you had I'm in great shape here!
Of course you think that. It's good someone does.
WinnytheBish wrote:
Da King of Da Jooze wrote:
As McEnroe points out ad nauseum, she would have a fairly hard time competing against a high school boys state champ,. She would get nowhere in the CIF tournament. Nonetheless, she is magically one of the greatest athletes of all time, regardless of sex.
Who or what is a "bish"?
John McEnroe is the Skip Bayless/Max Kellerman of the tennis world. She is a female. She is in a separate sport than men's tennis. To compare her to men is interesting but certainly not fair to her. That would be like comparing men to gorillas in weight lifting. Do you think men would have a chance? Get out of here.
"Bish" comes from the same place that words like "da" and "jooze" come from.
If I was the best basket baller of all time under 5 foot 6. Doesn’t put me on a par with Michael Jordan?!
Likewise, being the best female tennis player doesn’t put you on a par with Roger Federer.
It’s an accomplishment worth celebrating but cut the equalising across genders bullsh*t. McEnroe is right.
True equality would be women playing against men, and no one batting an eyelid. Same across all sports.
This equal when it suits us, and unequal when it doesn’t is tiring.
tycobb wrote:
She turns 38 this month and just destroyed the 18th ranked player in 45 minutes.
What women have been more dominant?
Best overweight woman ever in a individual sport.
Babe was great in an era that women didn't compete in sports.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Margaret Court still has more major titles than Williams. And no "panic room" incident. (And no, "I'm going to ram this ball down your f*cking throat!" Maybe the question should have been who is the greatest bully in women's sport. Williams wins, hands down.)
Mary Court is a bigot who should have every single title she won expunged from the record books for her disgusting views. If we do that for Lance Armstrong for being a drugs cheat then surely we can do it for Mary Court for being a humanity cheat. Get those history books re-written right now I say...
Besides her record doesn't count - half her total comes from the Aussie Open back in the 60s which no-one at that time really gave a hoots about nor considered it a "major".
Weird how she has been so successful while you all claim she is grossly overweight. Shouldn't someone not overweight be able to beat her?
BigFan wrote:
Babe was great in an era that women didn't compete in sports.
Not Babe’s fault.
Along the same lines, tennis is hardly a sport which widespread female participation. Too elitist and too expensive. Fact.
To back up what someone else said, attributing 24 "major" titles to Margaret Court is rewriting history. Only at the very end of Court's career was the Australian Open considered a major. It was just an intramural Aussie thing for much of the time she was winning it.
The guy who called Serena the best overweight woman ever in an individual sport is forgetting Tamara Press and, more recently, Valerie Adams.
Armstronglivs wrote:
tycobb wrote:
She turns 38 this month and just destroyed the 18th ranked player in 45 minutes.
What women have been more dominant?
38 years old and 15 kg overweight says more about the standard of her competition. Women's tennis is a joke.
I bet you couldn't beat her.
Women's tennis was a joke 40 years ago, not now.