Official thread to discuss moderation policies

Ok

If a pro or age grouper or anyone else goes to one of our fearless

Leaders and wants to know who is talking about them and some of the comments included drug suspicions , it’s highly recommendable not to inform the pro-

He or she could be guilty as hell and then you get them Stakking and harming the poster for revenge if they feel that poster has actual evidence

Nope never without the court order

Like others said, I think some more transparency would be good. Like, to know who the mods are.

One suggestion I have, for the “report a post” function, I would like to be able to explain why I think a post should be deleted. Sometimes when I’ve reported posts that I thought were misogynistic or sexist and they were allowed to stay up. I think because a lot of posts get flagged, the moderators sometimes don’t have time to carefully read the posts, so they sometimes might just get a quick glance. Having an explanation of why something should be deleted might make the process easier and quicker for the moderators.

There should be a proper sense of order though.

Post deletion:

I see way too many junk-ads, spam posts (pharmaceuticals, QuickBooks, Printer help, etc.)

Can you please delete posts that have to do with:

1. People trying to sell their product on this site (whether it be spam/junk marketing or movie scripts or pills, etc.). Things having to do with other than sporting equipment. Unless you make a separate Classified Sections.

2. Posts that are about valid psychological issues: suicide, eating disorders (starving oneself). This probably isn't the appropriate arena to encourage people to foster advice for these more serious matters.

LoneStarXC wrote:

One suggestion I have, for the “report a post” function, I would like to be able to explain why I think a post should be deleted. Sometimes when I’ve reported posts that I thought were misogynistic or sexist and they were allowed to stay up. I think because a lot of posts get flagged, the moderators sometimes don’t have time to carefully read the posts, so they sometimes might just get a quick glance. Having an explanation of why something should be deleted might make the process easier and quicker for the moderators.

+100 on this! There should be a drop down list of reasons why you are reporting a post, plus a box for additional comments if you would like to expound. Instead there is a box for a name?! What exactly does that do, when you can put anything in the name spot!

Everydog wrote:

Ok

If a pro or age grouper or anyone else goes to one of our fearless

Leaders and wants to know who is talking about them and some of the comments included drug suspicions , it’s highly recommendable not to inform the pro-

He or she could be guilty as hell and then you get them Stakking and harming the poster for revenge if they feel that poster has actual evidence

Nope never without the court order

We wouldn't do that. The pro I referenced above was being harrassed in a much different manner. We've said we will always allow drug discussions and even speculation.

I don't know if this is a general problem, but Rojo did disclose identifying information about me in another thread because he disagreed with me, and I never gave him permission to do so.

My ongoing complaint is that the hateful stuff doesn't get shut down fast enough if at all. The latest trend is people regularly using the wrong pronouns for people (even Serena Williams??) and there are ongoing problems with racism etc. I know you have the "report post" function, but the recaptcha is cumbersome (apparently I don't know what a storefront is) and it takes a while for action to be taken. Even if things do get shut down eventually, this stuff is still on the front page for hours every day, which is more than long enough for the message to get across to people. There needs to be a better way to handle it.

The policy seems straight forward.

Any post or thread that offends malmo gets deleted.

I don't know what all of those other words were for.

LoneStarXC wrote:

Like others said, I think some more transparency would be good. Like, to know who the mods are.

One suggestion I have, for the “report a post” function, I would like to be able to explain why I think a post should be deleted. Sometimes when I’ve reported posts that I thought were misogynistic or sexist and they were allowed to stay up. I think because a lot of posts get flagged, the moderators sometimes don’t have time to carefully read the posts, so they sometimes might just get a quick glance. Having an explanation of why something should be deleted might make the process easier and quicker for the moderators.

It might be nice to have a box like, "I feel strongly about this and would be willing to discuss further over email (for registered users)"

dunes runner wrote:

wejo wrote:

And the vast, vast majority of posters are positive contributors. I'd say it's less than .1% of the posters who cause the most trouble.

That's one of the funniest things that I've ever seen posted on here.

Wejo is correct, only a small percentage of posters cause nearly all of the noise, and you would not believe some of the most depraved things I've seen posted over the years. There are some real sickos out there, and unfortunately the internet has given them a platform to say unthinkable things.

David S wrote:

My ongoing complaint is that the hateful stuff doesn't get shut down fast enough if at all. The latest trend is people regularly using the wrong pronouns for people (even Serena Williams??) and there are ongoing problems with racism etc. I know you have the "report post" function, but the recaptcha is cumbersome (apparently I don't know what a storefront is) and it takes a while for action to be taken. Even if things do get shut down eventually, this stuff is still on the front page for hours every day, which is more than long enough for the message to get across to people. There needs to be a better way to handle it.

Not sure if your idea of 'hateful content' is the same as mine (you mention 'racism' which, while real racism is truly bad, we know the term is often abused by doping apologists to try to close down any discussion of the Kenyan problem), but I do agree that genuinely hateful stuff is left up for too long.

For example, recently a top British pro was very much slandered here and the posts were up for many hours. Similarly, Jamin and others have been subjected to extremely obnoxious lies (likely by the same person), and they have remained up for as much as a day. It's easy to form the suspicion that this was deliberate upon the part of the mods.

If something stays up on this forum for more than a few hours, it can be archived and mirrored on other sites and then it will be online and on Google forever. It does seem strange that posts that upset the mods can be deleted within minutes, but potentially life-altering slanderous posts about identifiable people stay up for hours.

I've explicitly used your situation as an example for the Brojos when false charges of racism are being hurled at you in an attempt to shut your opinion down. Your plight has not gone unnoticed.

malmo wrote:

I've explicitly used your situation as an example for the Brojos when false charges of racism are being hurled at you in an attempt to shut your opinion down. Your plight has not gone unnoticed.

Thank you!

malmo wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Not sure if your idea of 'hateful content' is the same as mine (you mention 'racism' which, while real racism is truly bad, we know the term is often abused by doping apologists to try to close down any discussion of the Kenyan problem), but I do agree that genuinely hateful stuff is left up for too long.

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I've explicitly used your situation as an example for the Brojos when false charges of racism are being hurled at you in an attempt to shut your opinion down. Your plight has not gone unnoticed.

Seems lke your concern is about false charges of racism and not racism itself

wejo wrote:

We've said we will always allow drug discussions and even speculation.

That's an extremely bad policy, which leads to character assassinations about EVERYONE.

"Assassinate my favorite runner huh, well then I'll assassinate yours."

No one is except from such treatment, and there is absolutely no good that comes from it.

Plus it leads to really bad outcomes, tainted testing, people's lives ruined, even death, and yet still it continues.

the gentleman wrote:

malmo wrote:

I've explicitly used your situation as an example for the Brojos when false charges of racism are being hurled at you in an attempt to shut your opinion down. Your plight has not gone unnoticed.

Seems lke your concern is about false charges of racism and not racism itself

If you're concerned about racism then you would also be concerned about false charges of racism.

where do the pages list the posters' IP address? Of course the server knows it but I don't see anything visible to the internet.

Hardloper wrote:

the gentleman wrote:

Seems lke your concern is about false charges of racism and not racism itself

If you're concerned about racism then you would also be concerned about false charges of racism.

I am concerned about both. But it's a false to say they're equal concerns.

Coevett wrote:

You mention 'racism' which, while real racism is truly bad, we know the term is often abused by doping apologists to try to close down any discussion of the Kenyan problem.

For example, recently a top British pro was very much slandered here and the posts were up for many hours.

Routinely attacking Kenyans while giving special treatment to British is not racist?

Of course it is.

dunes runner wrote:

Coevett wrote:

You mention 'racism' which, while real racism is truly bad, we know the term is often abused by doping apologists to try to close down any discussion of the Kenyan problem.

For example, recently a top British pro was very much slandered here and the posts were up for many hours.

Routinely attacking Kenyans while giving special treatment to British is not racist?

Of course it is.

I've explicitly used your situation as an example for the Brojos when TRUE charges of racism are being hurled at you in an attempt to shut your opinion down. Your plight has not gone unnoticed!!!