Semenya wins in court, is able to race all distances without lowering her testosterone

I applaud your right to say that, but am I willing to come out on social media and say that?

No, because it stays with you the rest of your life. What's wrong is wrong BUT IT DON'T NOT MATTER ANYMORE!

I warned people that stuff like this would happen when we passed the gay marriage.

Now you've got marijuana and men competing against women in sport. What's next?

Boycott this circus wrote:

All biological females need to boycott any race Semenya enters. This circus needs to end.

This will never happen

The Swiss are only good at making watches and chocolate. Why should they have a say in this matter? These people should be ashamed of themselves. Tough scene.

What makes me mad is the IAAF delayed implementation of the rules allowing her to compete in the interim with the idea that everyone would adhere to the CAS decision and the decision would be swift. But after delays in the CAS ruling and then even after the ruling allowing her to run one more time, she’s still crying and here we go again with the legal challenges.

I hope people stop with the “Semenya has emerged as role model....” crap because now she is acting like a whining baby that lost her toy.

Jerk - but it takes one to know one wrote:

What makes me mad is the IAAF delayed implementation of the rules allowing her to compete in the interim with the idea that everyone would adhere to the CAS decision and the decision would be swift. But after delays in the CAS ruling and then even after the ruling allowing her to run one more time, she’s still crying and here we go again with the legal challenges.

I hope people stop with the “Semenya has emerged as role model....” crap because now she is acting like a whining baby that lost her toy.

I don't blame semenya for fighting this. Most people would do the same.

I also think IAAF has done a poor job of explaining themselves. Most people think semenya is being banned because her testosterone is too higj. Hence the bogus Michael Phelps comparisons. Most public opinion supports semenya because they think she is being penalized for high testosterone.

IAAF needs to come out and tell people that semenya is 46XY chromosome, no uterus, no ovary, intersex so she is basically a man. testosterone is not the issue. It is the fact that semenya is a man.

IAAF needs a public spokesman to explain their view.

What is Semenya's T level?

I tried googling it, but no luck...

Thanks in advance.

Yeah we'll listen to the Swiss when they return all the stolen money and artwork stored there by the Nazis

And as long as yous till have to have an acceptable entry to run in the DL and the Olympics, she can still remain on the sidelines.

If you have the balls to challenge the system, of course you'd fight

Dreslowpije333 wrote:

What is Semenya's T level?

I tried googling it, but no luck...

Thanks in advance.

Goes from 700 to 1100

She's high enough to make Arnold proud

Hobby Yogging wrote:

Hot take: I actually think Semenya makes the 800 more interesting.

Hotter take: Shooting rubber (or real) bullets at the competitors from a helicopter would also make the 800 more interesting. That's hardly a justification for doing it. Races are for the athletes, not for the dimwitted slavering fans.

Interesting?

She's like the pacemaker that goes out to hard and never comes back

Gay marriage isn't a competitive sport

Jerk - but it takes one to know one wrote:

What makes me mad is the IAAF delayed implementation of the rules allowing her to compete in the interim with the idea that everyone would adhere to the CAS decision and the decision would be swift. But after delays in the CAS ruling and then even after the ruling allowing her to run one more time, she’s still crying and here we go again with the legal challenges.

So you are against due process rights. Noted.

Armstronglivs wrote:

TheProblemIs wrote:

The problem is, people here are always confused what a woman is. They will bore you to tears about XY. They can't get to grips that women don't want to be defined like this. Most (but of course not all) women support this notion. The don't want to be categorized by men as to how to define them.

It's nearly always the men complaining about this, very strange. It's almost like they want to dictate what a man or woman is. Get a life.

Most women aren't defined that way. They are XX.

The fact 'most' women are XX is completely irrelevant.

TheProblemIs wrote:

The fact 'most' women are XX is completely irrelevant.

The fact that Semenya has testes that secrete testosterone is pretty important. But I guess you'll find a way to pretend this is a trifling detail as well. Screw biology! Screw science! This person says she's a woman, so it would be cruel to rely on facts instead of emotion! Let one victim of non-descended testicles ruin all of women's track!

Idiot.

On the bright side, Caster Semenya will ever demand paid maternity leave from Nike or any other company.

Where is the real women’s rights movement? wrote:

Good bye female athletics.

Good bye to what advances females have worked hard for in sport.

PC culture is the demise of it all.

I actually blame female athletes for not taking charge of their own destiny, not making a stand for their rights. Why do they race against these guys? Where are all the women’s rights movements on this? They seem to jump on men with reckless abandon, can’t they understand what having a Y chromosome competing in sports means to female sport?

Too bad ladies.

Y'all act like a new race suddenly descended upon earth to take over female athletics. People like Caster Semenya, Wambui, etc are not new. Women like them have been competing in sports since the beginning and female athletics has only been growing.

I agree that Semenya has a very clear advantage, but it's not going to end female sports otherwise the end of female sports would have happened over half a century ago.

Warm Snatch wrote:

Hobby Yogging wrote:

Hot take: I actually think Semenya makes the 800 more interesting.

Hotter take: Shooting rubber (or real) bullets at the competitors from a helicopter would also make the 800 more interesting. That's hardly a justification for doing it. Races are for the athletes, not for the dimwitted slavering fans.

Another LR poster that also couldn't read past the first sentence to understand the greater part of the point being made.

But to go off your point, yes the races are for the athletes. But those "dimwitted slavering fans" pay the athletes by paying admission and watching on television. Without those fans, there are no prize purses and there is no money in the sport. Like it or not, the governing bodies need to make the sport more entertaining so that it can make money. My argument is that having faster races, which the 800 is with Semenya in it, is better for the sport. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Ajee Wilson had a bonus in her contract for when she broke the AR. Can you guess who won that race and asked for the pace to be set so fast? I'm sure the athletes would've enjoyed a much slower pace that day rather than gain monetary incentives for breaking NRs.

crumpet wrote:

Dreslowpije333 wrote:

What is Semenya's T level?

I tried googling it, but no luck...

Thanks in advance.

Goes from 700 to 1100

She's high enough to make Arnold proud

You have a link to support this?

What justification is there precisely to say that an XY person with testicles, high testosterone, and no insensitivity to androgens should be competing against women who are xx, no testicles, low testosterone?