Is there any athlete is history that was more clutch than Tom Brady?

asdfasdf wrote:

Tiger?

Mariano?

Jeter?

I hate to say it, but David Ortiz (who tested positive for PEDs and is still looking for the reason!)?

Jordan?

Bolt?

One of the knocks against Tiger is that he never won a major where he went into the final round not in the lead. I find this to be a little of a stretch. So if Brady won every game by 14 points and never trailed in the 4th Q would he not be among the greatest QBs ever?

Yes Mann wrote:

notc wrote:

Bolt and MJ can't really qualify as clutch because they were never behind. MJ never played a game 7.

When I think about clutch runners I think about Leo Monzano and Centro.

Overall for sports Brady belongs on top. His come backs have been unreal. People who haven't watched decades of football often don't understand how difficult and how rare it is to do what he does.

Yes, he did.

Also I would count the NCAA Finals where he hit the game winning shot.

ric flair woo wrote:

clutch wrote:

I'm thinking not, but I'd love to hear what others think.

Michael Phelps

One of the things that makes Phelps amazing is that he performed when all the pressure in the world was on him to perform. I consider that to be pretty amazing. Far easier to be the guy (or gal) who comes out of "no where".

John Utah wrote:

clutch wrote:

I'm thinking not, but I'd love to hear what others think.

Not a big pats fan or NFL fan in general, but it's hard to argue with you statement. I think the whole world knew what was going to happen against the Chiefs when Brady had the ball with two minutes left. Massive game, massive pressure, playing in KC, doesn't matter. I would rank him as the greatest NFL player of all time. Crazy since his general athletic ability (running, jumping, agility, coordination, balance, strength, speed, fluidity, etc.) is fairly average for a male human. Don't matter. He puts the ball on the freaking dime every time, on time, and always to the right guy. He's unreal.

He was a good enough athlete in high school to be drafted by a major league baseball team. Then went to Michigan and became the starting QB and then to the Pats and has played since the Ice Age.

Is the OP aware of the "no touch" rules applied to modern day NFL QB'S? Does the OP know what QB influenced that protective policy?

It rhymes with "Mom Lady"

How many times did we see Brady screaming, and I mean screaming at the refs, for being hit?

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-playoffs-2019-new-orleans-saints-fan-starts-petition-demanding-nfc-championship-game-los-angeles-replayed/3k87cchy3rng1lk2mwd38dnq4

Starting QB at Michigan? Brady split time with Drew Henson. MLB? Did you see Brady throw out first pitch at Boston RedSox game. If I were to say he throws a baseball like a girl, I would insult my daughters. There's numerous reasons he was a 4th or 6th round draft pick.

Why does he do better than average? Most NFL QB's are forced to play in a head coach's system. Belichick is smart enough to design offense and defense schemes based on which athletes are healthy and ready to play each week. Many QB's would thrive under Belichick and Bob Kraft.

notc wrote:

Bolt and MJ can't really qualify as clutch because they were never behind. MJ never played a game 7...

Bolt came from behind in most of his races because he had a notoriously slow start, particularly after about 2010.

Given his form for the season, he was rarely even a hot favorite for most championship races after about 2011. The only one he lost was his final WC 100m. I think he was very much a clutch athlete.

MJ was as well. When the going got tough and the pr sure wound up, MJ was almost inevitably a beast.

This is the greatest clutch performance in history. The athlete is crippled and nowhere near his top shape after two years off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXktj9IxlU

clutch? wrote:

Brady, clutch? You sure must be a Tom Brady fan. In AFC game, Brady threw three interceptions. Patriots ran the ball well. Patriots stopped Chief's running game. That win was a team win.

Brady and Patriots beat Seattle Sea Hawks in superbowl due to a Malcolm Butler's goal line interception. Again, a Patriot team win, not a Brady win.

Ask Eli Manning if Brady is clutch.

Tom Brady would probably agree with you, the Patriots win as a team and loose as team. Of those three pics you mentioned from last week, one was a legitimately badly thrown ball. The others were both off players hands (Edelman & Gronk) which should have been caught, and one was actually negated due to a penalty. Never mind the 348 passing yards, TD to Dorsett and the most important stat, another playoff victory.

To say that T.B. is not clutch shows how little you know about the game.

Tom Brady, the player most synonymous with being clutch in pro sports ( Michael Jordan probably being the only other athlete at his level) has really struggled under pressure. Lets take a quick look at his post-season "clutchness" (his regular season clutch victories are literally to numerous to mention).

1. 2014 AFC Divisional Round, Pats down 14-0. Brady is near perfect in the second half (163 yds, 2 TD's 0 INT) to lead Patriots to victory over Ravens.

2. Super Bowl 38- Brady drives 47 yards with under 1:30 on clock to set up game winning field goal for a 32-29 victory over Carolina. M.V.P. trophy to Brady, who just can't seem to win the big ones under pressure.

3. Super Bowl 49- Losing 24-14 in the 4th quarter, Brady leads a pair of td drives for 28-24 victory over Seahawks, sealed by Malcolm Butler INT, but as you mentioned above, this was a Patriot Team win, not a Brady win ( another MVP award for Brady).

4. Super Bowl 36- With 1:30 left on clock, Brady drives 53 yards to set up A.V. field goal for 20-17 victory over St. Louis Rams ( M.V.P. trophy to Brady).

5. Super Bowl 51- Trailing 28-3, Brady engineers 5 straight scoring drives to complete largest comeback in Super Bowl history for a 34-28 victory over the Falcons. I'll let you guess who won the M.V.P.

I am not a 5'7" 115 lbs. person. I was a Pop Warner star. I perfected skills as both TE and DE. I once was bigger than average. I knocked on Carl Eller's door and asked him for an autograph at age ten or eleven. Eventually, I knew there was no way I was going to be close to that size. I switched to running. Before I switched to XC and T&F, I was a two-way star, Am. football. Please tell us about your football experiences.

5'8'' 125ish

1995 Central Valley All Star Pop Warner (Second Team)

Then things went south

Ben L Wrong wrote:

Robert Horry

+1. Came to this thread just to make sure he was listed.

Just because, some honorable mentions may include D Wade, Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, and Christian Laettner (pre NBA)

notc wrote:

Yes Mann wrote:

Yes, he did.

Not in the finals.

Guess we’re forgetting the Detroit Piston days, aren’t we?

Don’t create a biased perspective wrote:

notc wrote:

Not in the finals.

Guess we’re forgetting the Detroit Piston days, aren’t we?

I have not a clue how/why NBA allowed Chuck Daly and rest of Detroit Pistons to play defense in the manner in which they played defense. Mahorn, Laimbeer, Salley, Rodman and others threw NBA legends like McHale, Bird, Pippen and even Jordan around like rag dolls.

Nick Foles

1 in 3 starts ends with him leading the Eagles on a game winning drive. You can't beat that.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/is-the-eagles-nick-foles-the-most-clutch-qb-in-the-nfl-heres-why-thats-not-an-exaggeration/

Bill Walton, UCLA.