Nick Symmonds runs 12.36 in 100m time trial

Me likey wrote:

Nick is A-OK in my book. A bunch of his detractors are probably the types who frown at any kind of touchdown end zone celebrations in football. Nick has a sense of enjoyment about what he does, and, man, how I could learn a thing or two about the big picture just by paying attention to his videos. More power to you, Nick! And you stick-in-the-muds out there? I do hope you can extricate yourselves from the mire once in a while, even if it's only to meet at the local bar to b*tch about Nick.

THIS.

i peg coe as a 140 guy, reasonably.

140 guys have 45 400 speed by definition, none, maybe one with 44 400 speed.

there were like 5 140 guys potentially, all have that 400m ability.

these guys can open in 22 high or 23 low for the opening 200m incase you didn't notice.

like amos, cruz, coe, rush, kipkiter,

some of these guys got like a 46 best listed for 400m. those times come as preparation for the 8 ....

in other words, if you are the all time best at a distance.

you must be able to produce good results at half the distance.

it is the axium.

a perfect example, is peter elliot, he somehow was like slow but somehow managed the 142,

all butshit and imagination. he was 47x 400, as you have to be to open in 50 and come back with a 52.

with that said , 800m training is not very good for 400m, because you have the anaerobic component to concentrate on, and that takes away from 100-200 speed.

which means all the great 800 guys could be successful 400m runners, like in the top 20 in the world but it is total specualtion to put any in the top 10...

sorry above anaerobic, should read aerobic.

finally, we're not talking about a 142 high guy here, we're talking 140 guys ...

longjack wrote:

i peg coe

gross

Agreed. Cruz's 'official' 400pb was only 47.17, but he has a 46.0 listed as a training run.

Kipketer's official pb is 46.85, but like Coe he ran a 45.4 relay leg a week before equalling Coe's WR of 1:41.73.

I think all 3 were capable of 45 mid - 46 flat in an open 400m when in peak 800 form.

Rudisha was more of a 44 high/45 flat guy.

Yes, Elliott must have been in 47 mid - high form when he ran his pb in 90, although remember his 1:42.97 was more of a 1:43 flat performance.

This. I say Nick at his prime would have MAYBE been able to run 11-flat with a running start, like what he did in his first sprint in the video. If his drop-off from running to still start was about 0.7 like now, that would put him at 11.7 at his best (but I woulda guessed 11.3-11.5 so idk). I think now 11.5 would be a really good goal/achievement for him. Just guesses here.

Well, maybe he should take some of that multimillion money and donate it to programs who work with younger athletes rather than him making a fool of himself by trying to run 100 meters sub 13.

Is no one going to mention that runs 11.36 in the video not 12.36?

Gb i wrote:

Is no one going to mention that runs 11.36 in the video not 12.36?

He ran 11.63 with a flying start, 12.36 with a standing start.

Run_N_Gum wrote:

He can easily knock a second off his time with better start mechanics. He’ll need a sprint coach to clean up that technique.

He would of gone faster if his starter gave better commands and was more excited. She should of yelled, “GO!!!” Instead of “start.”

And Nick claims Run Gum is a multi million dollar company. Is that true?

Would of?

Should of?

I truly don't believe people realize how many mid-d guys can easily run 11s or under for 100m. The real problem with many of these runners is not having anywhere near the strength required to run elite 800m times. I have a teammate who ran 10.98 with a rolling start when he was only in 1:55 shape. I ran 11.1 with a rolling start and 11.7 from a standing start as a 1:53 guy. I like to think with some block work I could run close to or under 11s for 100m, and I'm far, far from world class.

will people be interested in this?