What will Jakob Ingebrigtsen's 1500 and 5000 PRs be at the end of his career?

Bad Wigins wrote:

Kid phenoms are early peakers, that's the only way to be so good at such a young age. They are done by the time they are 20. That's when Ryun set his PR's. Mary Cain was already over the hill. Nigel Amos ever sub 1:42 again, not a chance.

From 3:31 Jakob will get to 3:29. Maybe 3:28, no further. People don't understand he is already just about at his limit.

What has this place come to when BW is the most reasonable poster in a thread? I miss the days when he was one of the most irritating posters around. Now things have gotten so bad that BW has stopped his schtick of only writing rubbish, just so that there can be a single person who isn’t writing rubbish. Now we have threads full of white supremacist degenerates who think “soy” is an insult.

osm wrote:

Post your predictions here.

3:29.0

12:56

Close OP, close. He will actually run 3.28 and 12.52

3:15

11:52

Runnergrl wrote:

I’m not changing my mind. Too much too soon.

Yea you are. Earlier you said he started to train like a pro at 7 years old. Do you still stand by that?

Bad Wigins wrote:

Kid phenoms are early peakers, that's the only way to be so good at such a young age. They are done by the time they are 20. That's when Ryun set his PR's. Mary Cain was already over the hill. Nigel Amos ever sub 1:42 again, not a chance.

From 3:31 Jakob will get to 3:29. Maybe 3:28, no further. People don't understand he is already just about at his limit.

He won't peak when he is 28, but he won't be done when he is 20 either. Hes been training far more reasonable than e.g Nick Willis (meaning Willis trained way harder when in his early 20s), and the only thing keeping Willis back the last years are injuries.

Think of it like this: They haven't trained Jakob to peak now, they have trained him to be good when he enters his 20s. Meaning his workouts are not ball busting Alan Webb workouts. Its just hes been responding far better than Gjert ever thought he would.

TresholdFTW wrote:

Runnergrl wrote:

I’m not changing my mind. Too much too soon.

Yea you are. Earlier you said he started to train like a pro at 7 years old. Do you still stand by that?

To be fair, Filip said Jakob has been training for this (senior Europeans) since he was 9 or 10.

Filip said in an interview that Jakob is at his maximum physically, which I assume means there is no room to increase his training volume.

He trains the same as his brothers and has trained like a professional for many years. They see him as an equal in terms of physical development and training ability. Clearly they don't think he is just a 17 year old boy, but a man when it comes to running.

3:25

12:17

He is the future 10k WR holder too

He is already sub-13 5k.

Ffhhh wrote:

He’s not a 5k runner. Probably never will be in the top times of distances above the mile. Kipchoge in his age clocked 12:52

Fake news. Jakob is 17.

He needs to go to Oregon if he wants to achieve his full abilities.

GlobalRebellion wrote:

dbags wrote:

Leave you incel terms at home and stop being a garbage human.

Do you actually believe Eliud Kipchoge ran 12:52 at age 17? Or are you just too soyed to admit otherwise.

So he’s about 50 now???

ex-runner wrote:

TresholdFTW wrote:

Yea you are. Earlier you said he started to train like a pro at 7 years old. Do you still stand by that?

To be fair, Filip said Jakob has been training for this (senior Europeans) since he was 9 or 10.

Filip said in an interview that Jakob is at his maximum physically, which I assume means there is no room to increase his training volume.

He trains the same as his brothers and has trained like a professional for many years. They see him as an equal in terms of physical development and training ability. Clearly they don't think he is just a 17 year old boy, but a man when it comes to running.

+1

I would think that Filip would know more about his brother than all of you letsrun basement dwellers. Now obviously his 5k and steeple Pr will improve and quite possibly the 1500, but not the 1500 as much as you guys suggest. Ingebrigsten is fantastic now don’t get me wrong, but I would trust Filip’s judgement more than a random person here

#stupid wrote:

GlobalRebellion wrote:

Do you actually believe Eliud Kipchoge ran 12:52 at age 17? Or are you just too soyed to admit otherwise.

So he’s about 50 now???

No, Eliud Kipchoge is only 44

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

kartelite wrote:

3:24.6

12:32

This. His PR in the 5k is about 27 seconds faster than Rupp ran as a junior, so surely he will run about that much faster as a senior athlete as well.

dumb thinking.

I see what you're saying (and what Filip appears to be saying), but I still think he can improve a lot in the 1500. Most of the greats improved a lot between 21 when they were at their physical peak and 24 or 25. According to Cram the other night, Jakob only started training seriously with his brothers at 13. He looked at Monaco to have been able to run even faster than he did, probably sub 3:30, and his performance last week seems to confirm this. I think it's reasonable to hope that he could threaten El G's record, at least on the Monaco track, in the coming years.

Coevett wrote:

According to Cram the other night, Jakob only started training seriously with his brothers at 13.

The more you post, the more you show your ignorance about the sport.

I think I'll believe Filip over Cram or you on this one.

Filip has twice in different interviews said that Jakob has trained as a pro for longer than that. 7 years or so is what he has said.

tryuet wrote:

Coevett wrote:

According to Cram the other night, Jakob only started training seriously with his brothers at 13.

The more you post, the more you show your ignorance about the sport.

Well I'm happy to be in the same company as Steve Cram you moron (ex-runner). I was simply reporting what Steve Cram clearly stated to a nationwide live television audience watching the 1500 final.

ex-runner wrote:

Coevett wrote:

I see what you're saying (and what Filip appears to be saying), but I still think he can improve a lot in the 1500. Most of the greats improved a lot between 21 when they were at their physical peak and 24 or 25. According to Cram the other night, Jakob only started training seriously with his brothers at 13. He looked at Monaco to have been able to run even faster than he did, probably sub 3:30, and his performance last week seems to confirm this. I think it's reasonable to hope that he could threaten El G's record, at least on the Monaco track, in the coming years.

I think I'll believe Filip over Cram or you on this one.

Filip has twice in different interviews said that Jakob has trained as a pro for longer than that. 7 years or so is what he has said.

I think I'll believe Gjert over Filip.

Jakob has not trained like a professional since he was a kid, and when using the term professional I mean the same volume and intensity. Its just the last 1-2 years he is doing the same as Filip and Henrik. He has been gradualy increasing volume. If anyone in here thinks he was training even remotely as much as his brothers when he was 12,13,14,15 they are out of their mind. Gjert have stated this before.

Regarding peak: At what age did Nick Willis set his personal best?

You're acting as though you read or watch Filip every time he gives an interview. In fact, you just made that up didn't you? And I thought you were going to stop supporting yourself through fake handles within 5 minutes of your registered handle posts?

I will take the words of Jakob himself over you or any of your schizophrenic alter egos.