Someone got to him and told him to shut his freaking mouth before he really causes a problem. That's what I think.
Someone got to him and told him to shut his freaking mouth before he really causes a problem. That's what I think.
This is a travesty `/ wrote:
I'm financially weak to challenge my accuser the IAAF whom I have always worked hard for to bring the best in me for the sport and myself. However I'm rich in TRUTH and sincerity, this seem to mean nothing.
I have let the struggle to proof my innocence go. Not because I doped but I take the sacrifice because I support the anti doping campaign.
Kiprop is right. Good for him speaking up.
He's another in a long line of runners who've been banned, not for doping, but due to greed and politics.
But also for doping.
This website is bonkers.
hart crane wrote:
Anyone else think that Kiprop's writing is similar to JAKIR?
He dropped out of school very young to pursue running, as you can see. The most talented junior athlete Kenya has ever since has given up the fight and now feels his medals are nothing but junk. Speaking for MYSELF (so don't jump down my throat) he provided some the best entertainment in middle distance running, which can be boring to watch sometimes. I feel sorry for him. I don't know what happened or whether he doped or not, but he seems to strongly believe that he didn't.
Money woes wrote:
Legal defense is $50K a month commitment
Better call Saul!
As SprintGeezer said, he's taking advantage of people's good will and the fact people want to believe him. He knows he can't prove his innocence and leaving it this way makes it look to his supporters like the IAAF is the big bad guy and his followers will always believe him on blind faith. It's his best out at this point.
It also shows he has no integrity. Though I guess that was obvious the moment he tested positive.
Let's be fair about this wrote:
m!ndweak wrote:
how classic, i just tried to comment on this thread and i got hte error 403 or whatever saying the thread was deleted...
this is so pathetic and comical. ben johnson was sabotaged, as he had unmetabolized winstrol in his urine sample but he got busted anyway
now you have kiprop making some asinine excuse that that fanboys all believed, then came out later that it was all about some $32 bribe....now it was $32 for tea or something, now its he is too poor to afford to fight it! haha and the fanboys still support him. you fanboys are like the people in a cult, you believe the LIE all the way to drinking the cyanide kool aid.
maybe kiprop could afford the court battle if he wasnt spending $32 on tea all the time. or my guess is that rosa and co were taking a HUGE % of his winnings and appearance fees, then tack on what he spend on booze and stupidity and bribing the testers.
a guy as clueless and arrogant as kiprop behaving much like NBA and NFL guys who go broke the moment they retire or have a career ending injury....i imagine rekrunner, canova and ghost will try to spin this somehow and argue and argue and argue. but as i said back when ROSA got arrested...kiprop was going to run slow or get popped....what happened? hahah BOTH
then renato argued and rekrunner argued and both insulted me and instigated till i had enough, then talked sh*t to canova that one of these days this myth would come crashing down and it would be a great day when him and rosa were exposed as frauds. i was deleted and banned pretty soon after that, and guess what? well kiprop got busted and the brojos allowed me back on.
i tell you all know, with the big man kiprop no longer able to stay "clean" in the new testing in kenya, there will be a huge fear going on, and boom you will watch, more will be planting potatoes, claiming injury, and running SLOWER....but there will still be the ones trying to risk it and booom busted, busted busted.
predictions
3:33-35 for kenyans, 3:31-32 at monaco
13:05-13:10 for kenyans
27:20s for kenyans
2:06-08 for kenyans
the heat is on, the mighty proud and arrogant kiprop has fallen and now EVERYONE in kenya will start to fear.
naaah who am i kidding, EPO doesnt work, and poor innocent kiprop cant afford to clear his name cause he drinks too pricey of tea
You don't think Kenyans can't run faster than 3:33/(3:31Monoco) clean? You don't think any Kenyan could run at least Willis' PB of 3:29.67 clean? I'm using Willis' time because it's the fastest non-African time in the ABP-era and 2nd fastest non-African time ever behind Cacho's 3:28.95 set in 1995. However, I think Cacho's time is too suspicious being set in the unrestricted EPO use-era and the doping culture than existed with the Spaniards...so, IMO, in a question mark (?) goes there.
I don't see anything suspicious with Willis, e.g., no scandals, no ties to doping coaches/doctors, no doping culture with NZ/Australia, etc. So, for argument's sake I'll go with Willis' time as the fastest non-African, and presumably clean & green. Now, certainly a Kenyan should be able to run at least run his time clean? (unless you think Willis is doped?).
M!ndweak, do you have a 1500 meter cutoff time that you think is unattainable clean?
http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_1500ok.htm
this is what the problem is with you naive fanboys
willis was DRAGGED TO A 3:29.67 at monaco, his next best times are 3:32
so if the best kenyan will only run 3:31 NOW in monaco who is going to drag willis to 3:29? dear lord people are so dense on here.
i think willis is one of the cleanest guys out there yes, and he can only run 3:32 non monaco, dont link the 1500m all time list like i havent already checked it out 1,000 times. i would say i have at least 3 TIMES made the list, taken out EPO suspects, and EPO busts and monaco times from 2010 till now.....and it becomes pretty apparent that 3:32 is a PRETTY F*CKING FAST TIME....prob why willis can MEDAL when most runners have to be clean, and people claim "oh its tactical" no its clean cause most Olympics TEST hard. sadly they tend to just get tossed out
for the other guy mocking me.....kiprop got busted in NOV...NO ONE NEW ABOUT IT TILL IT WAS LEAKED A FEW WEEKS AGO. dont be a fool, kenyans had been in the dark about kiprop till the LEAK. now all the sudden its out in the open. dont be a fool. just cause EPO is used in the base phase, you act like kenyans havnet been busted for ANABOLIC STEROIDS.
it is quite the coincidence that tim went home to plant potatoes just when kiprop and rotich drama was hitting critical levels.
and mock me about 2:06-08....just wait, these 2:04s will be a thing of the past, and people will do the fanboy excuse..."it was always the pacers, glad we got ride of that and got back to racing"
right now though kipchoge is protected big time by nike, it would have to be some outside deal busting him. he will get the WR and retire, then no one will get close...
but what do i know? i only called kiprop going slower and or getting busted after rosa.....and people like YOU mocked me then
El Keniano wrote:
hart crane wrote:
Anyone else think that Kiprop's writing is similar to JAKIR?
He dropped out of school very young to pursue running, as you can see. The most talented junior athlete Kenya has ever since has given up the fight and now feels his medals are nothing but junk. Speaking for MYSELF (so don't jump down my throat) he provided some the best entertainment in middle distance running, which can be boring to watch sometimes. I feel sorry for him. I don't know what happened or whether he doped or not, but he seems to strongly believe that he didn't.
I KNOW that he doped.
He 'gave up the fight' because he doesn't have a case. Like I said from the start in the other monster thread about Kiprop. He tested positive in November and obviously would have told them his excuses back then. The AIU investigated, found no substance to any of his claims, and then he was charged in March. That's 5 months of investigating.
Kiprop's desperate BBC interview and Facebook posts are to try and hold onto some of his fans/credibility (clearly working for some, so kudos).
It does not cost anything to 'fight' the IAAF. There have been many athletes far less rich than Kiprop who have given exonerating circumstances over doping positives and the IAAF have accepted them. Do you think Shawn Barber paid $50k to tell the IAAF that he slept with a coked up hooker? It's LAUGHABLE for Kiprop to say he can't afford to plead his innocence.
Even Dutee Chand took the IAAF to the Court for Arbitration of Sport (significant level up from an IAAF hearing). There is no way in hell it cost any serious money. Chand is a poor female sprinter from India who has never made it past the heats in any major competition.
She beat the IAAF, btw. Had her ban overturned.
Kiprop just has nothing useful to say. Some rambling and crying that's all.
So you've already revised your 'clean' 1500m time from 3:35 to 3:31. Ok. Lol.
This timeline of events is in your head mindweak. It hasn't gone down how you think at all. Kiprop's positive became PUBLIC knowledge BEFORE the track season started. There was no 'heat' building up recently. This is just Letsrun make believe.
In the real world everyone knew about Kiprop's positive before Doha and Kenyans probably knew in December or so. Nobody in Kenya gonna ask questions as to why Kiprop isn't training with all the boys??
Three guys have already run quicker than 3:32 and Cheryuoit ran 3:31 two weeks ago. Two weeks.
We will continue to see faster and faster times throughout the year. Mark my words. I don't believe 3:26 is possible clean, but 3:31 obviously is. Someone will break 3:30 this year.
I'll remind you that you claimed 'increased testing' will lead to a drop off in times from Kenyans. Surely that increased testing would have started in November? Or was WADA waiting for you to give them the go ahead hahhaaha?
Why fight it when you know you are guilty. Time to plant some potatoes and save the rest of your tea money.
Speak Up wrote:
I assume Anti-Doping Kenya has met their yearly quota.
Also, he was at the end of his career so what better athlete to bust.
This guy sees past the smoke and mirrors. Kiprop has been on the decline for years and his care for running is gone. He was contemplating retirement so Kenya paid him to take EPO to show they have a strong anti doping agency by taking down the Lion. It’s all a show folks.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Contrarian C wrote:
The one thing I haven't seen mentioned, at least not on the first page of this thread is this: Kiprop is about the freakiest looking dude I've ever seen run. Can you name someone with a better body for running? Talk about lungs on legs. Nothing about him looks remotely normal. If I had his body I'd expect to run sub 4:00 while 20 pounds over weight. Think of Brody Hastey who is running about 4:00 for the mile. You guys don't think Kiprop can run 15 seconds faster? Maybe, maybe not.
Was he on drugs? I'd guess yes, but at the same time it really IS expensive to fight an organization like the IAAF and WADA when you look at the history and it's practically a kangaroo court so you're better off keeping your money and finding out who your close friends are.
If he's innocent I can't blame him for giving up if it would mean he could lose all of his money on legal fees. That's no way to have the doping system setup, where you can't even afford to defend yourself. I'm not impressed with the situation at all.
His physique was used as a reason why Kenyans are do good.
This has been shown to be bs. Look at Coe and Cram similar times over 1500m completely different physique.
It's bs and down to lack of testing same as a certain tall retired sprinter.
Asbel obviously backed off the juice in London or he would have been busted like some of his teammates.
It has not been "shown to be bs" that having a specific physique will not give you certain advantages in certain sports.
Which of these is the runner and which is the powerlifter? It's completely ridiculous to think the morphological characteristics of your body have nothing to do with how fast you can run.
https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/DnSportAbel1908-524x350.jpghttp://media.gettyimages.com/photos/naim-suleymanoglu-of-turkey-enroute-to-winning-the-gold-medal-in-the-picture-id643132594Ghost1 wrote:
Kiprop has money, but he thinks that fighting the IAAF lawyers, or others -who have bigger pockets is doomed to failure, so he prefers to keep the money he has to invest in his future business, or life. Lance A. also was forced to give in.
This is really tragic news, especially for all the youth in Kenya who idolized him.
Please note, a large group of Kenyan elites still support him.
Would be interesting to get Canova's view on the whole matter.
This case is not good for track and Kenyan athletics.
Interesting that in cycling, former dopers, or suspected dopers, like Contador and Virenque, can resume their careers, and still retain their popularity.
Don't even mention sports like baseball, football american, basketball -athletes there take stuff, and few bat an eyelid.
Oh stop it. Its nothing like tragic.
i will do this YET again and see if you guys who are on the fence and SEE the LIGHT
1 3:26.00 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Roma 14.07.1998 (EPO era)
2 3:26.12 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Bruxelles 24.08.2001 (EPO era)
3 3:26.34 Bernard Lagat KEN 12.12.74 2 Bruxelles 24.08.2001 (EPO era, and positive A sample)
4 3:26.45 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1rA Zürich 12.08.1998 (EPO era)
5 3:26.69 Asbel Kiprop KEN 30.06.89 1 Monaco 17.07.2015 (BUSTED EPO and monaco 2-3)
6 3:26.89 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1rA Zürich 16.08.2002 (EPO era)
7 3:26.96 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Rieti 08.09.2002 (EPO era)
8 3:27.21 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1rA Zürich 11.08.2000 (EPO era)
9 3:27.34 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Monaco 19.07.2002 (EPO era)
10 3:27.37 Noureddine Morceli ALG 28.02.70 1 Nice 12.07.1995 (EPO era)
11 3:27.40 Bernard Lagat KEN 12.12.74 1 Zürich 06.08.2004 (EPO era, and positive A sample)
12 3:27.52 Noureddine Morceli ALG 28.02.70 1 Monaco 25.07.1995 (EPO era)
13 3:27.64 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 2 Zürich 06.08.2004 (EPO era)
13 3:27.64 Silas Kiplagat KEN 20.08.89 1 Monaco 18.07.2014 (monaco 2-3)
15 3:27.65 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Sevilla 24.08.1999 (EPO era)
16 3:27.72 Asbel Kiprop KEN 30.06.89 1 Monaco 19.07.2013 (BUSTED EPO and monaco 2-3)
17 3:27.91 Bernard Lagat KEN 12.12.74 2 Monaco 19.07.2002 (EPO era, and positive A sample)
18 3:28.12 Noah Ngeny KEN 02.11.78 2rA Zürich 11.08.2000 (EPO era)
19 3:28.21+ Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Roma 07.07.1999 (EPO era)
20 3:28.37 Noureddine Morceli ALG 28.02.70 1 Monaco 09.09.1995 (EPO era)
20 3:28.37 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Monaco 08.08.1998 (EPO era)
22 3:28.38 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Saint-Denis 06.07.2001 (EPO era)
23 3:28.40 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Bruxelles 05.09.2003 (EPO era)
24 3:28.45 Asbel Kiprop KEN 30.06.89 2 Monaco 18.07.2014 (BUSTED EPO and monaco 2-3)
25 3:28.51 Bernard Lagat KEN 12.12.74 3rA Zürich 11.08.2000 (EPO era, and positive A sample)
26 3:28.57 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1rA Zürich 11.08.1999 (EPO era)
27 3:28.6+ Noah Ngeny KEN 02.11.78 2 Roma 07.07.1999 (EPO era)
28 3:28.73 Noah Ngeny KEN 02.11.78 2 Sevilla 24.08.1999 (EPO era)
29 3:28.75 Taoufik Makhloufi ALG 29.04.88 2 Monaco 17.07.2015 (monaco 2-3)
30 3:28.79 Abdelati Iguider MAR 25.03.87 3 Monaco 17.07.2015 (monaco 2-3)
31 3:28.80 Elijah Manangoi KEN 05.01.93 1 Monaco 21.07.2017 (monaco 2-3)
32 3:28.81 Mohamed Farah GBR 23.03.83 2 Monaco 19.07.2013 (monaco 2-3)
32 3:28.81 Ronald Kwemoi KEN 18.09.95 3 Monaco 18.07.2014 (monaco 2-3)
34 3:28.84 Noah Ngeny KEN 02.11.78 1 Paris 21.07.1999 (EPO era)
35 3:28.86 Noureddine Morceli ALG 28.02.70 1 Rieti 06.09.1992 (EPO era)
36 3:28.88 Asbel Kiprop KEN 30.06.89 1 Monaco 20.07.2012 (BUSTED EPO and monaco 2-3)
37 3:28.91 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1rA Zürich 13.08.1997 (EPO era)
38 3:28.92 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Bruxelles 22.08.1997 (EPO era)
39 3:28.93 Noah Ngeny KEN 02.11.78 1 München 11.09.1999 (EPO era)
39 3:28.93 Mohamed Farah GBR 23.03.83 4 Monaco 17.07.2015 (monaco 2-3)
41 3:28.95 Fermin Cacho ESP 16.02.69 2rA Zürich 13.08.1997 (EPO era)
42 3:28.98 Mehdi Baala FRA 17.08.78 2 Bruxelles 05.09.2003 (EPO era)
43 3:29.02 Daniel Kipchirchir Komen KEN 27.11.84 1r2 Roma 14.07.2006 (EPO era)
44 3:29.05 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Bruxelles 23.08.1996 (EPO era)
45 3:29.06 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1rA Zürich 17.08.2001 (EPO era)
46 3:29.08 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Rieti 02.09.2001 (EPO era)
47 3:29.10 Timothy Cheruiyot KEN 20.11.95 2 Monaco 21.07.2017 (monaco 2-3)
48 3:29.12 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Oslo 09.07.1998 (EPO era)
49 3:29.13 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Zürich 15.08.2003 (EPO era)
50 3:29.14 Rashid Ramzi BRN 17.07.80 2r2 Roma 14.07.2006 (EPO era)
51 3:29.18 Vénuste Niyongabo BDI 09.12.73 2 Bruxelles 22.08.1997 (EPO era)
51 3:29.18 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1rA Heusden-Zolder 31.07.2004 (EPO era)
51 3:29.18 Asbel Kiprop KEN 30.06.89 1 Ad-Dawhah 09.05.2014 (BUSTED EPO)
54 3:29.19 Noah Ngeny KEN 02.11.78 1 Bruxelles 03.09.1999 (EPO era)
55 3:29.20 Noureddine Morceli ALG 28.02.70 1 Narbonne 20.06.1993 (EPO era)
56 3:29.21 Bernard Lagat KEN 12.12.74 1 Saint-Denis 23.07.2004 (EPO era, and positive A sample)
57 3:29.27 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Paris 14.09.2002 (EPO era)
57 3:29.27 Silas Kiplagat KEN 20.08.89 1 Monaco 22.07.2010 (monaco 2-3)
59 3:29.29 William Chirchir KEN 06.02.79 3 Bruxelles 24.08.2001 (EPO era)
60 3:29.30 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1rA Stockholm 07.07.1997 (EPO era)
60 3:29.30 Bernard Lagat USA 12.12.74 1 Rieti 28.08.2005 (EPO era, and positive A sample)
62 3:29.33 Asbel Kiprop KEN 30.06.89 1 Birmingham 05.06.2016 (BUSTED EPO)
63 3:29.43 Vénuste Niyongabo BDI 09.12.73 3rA Zürich 13.08.1997 (EPO era, and positive A sample)
64 3:29.46 Saïd Aouita MAR 02.11.59 1r1 Berlin 23.08.1985 (SUSPECTED PED USER)
64 3:29.46 Daniel Komen KEN 17.05.76 1 Monaco 16.08.1997 (EPO era, and positive A sample)
66 3:29.47 Augustine Choge KEN 21.01.87 1 Berlin 14.06.2009
67 3:29.50 Noureddine Morceli ALG 28.02.70 1 Paris 28.06.1996 (EPO era)
67 3:29.50 Caleb Ndiku KEN 09.10.92 3 Monaco 19.07.2013 (monaco 2-3)
69 3:29.51 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Hengelo 31.05.1997 (EPO era)
69 3:29.51 Ali Saïdi-Sief ALG 15.03.78 1 Lausanne 04.07.2001 (BUSTED PED)
71 3:29.53 Amine Laâlou MAR 13.05.82 2 Monaco 22.07.2010 (monaco 2-3)
72 3:29.57+ Noureddine Morceli ALG 28.02.70 1 Rieti 05.09.1993 (EPO era)
73 3:29.58 Ayanleh Souleiman DJI 03.12.92 4 Monaco 18.07.2014 (ADEN EPO monaco 2-3)
74 3:29.59 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Stockholm 08.07.1996 (EPO era)
75 3:29.63 Silas Kiplagat KEN 20.08.89 1 Ad-Dawhah 11.05.2012
76 3:29.66 Nick Willis NZL 25.04.83 5 Monaco 17.07.2015 (monaco 2-3)
77 3:29.67 Steve Cram GBR 14.10.60 1 Nice 16.07.1985
so in the top 77 times of ALL TIME, these are the ones that dont have any * with them
66 3:29.47 Augustine Choge KEN 21.01.87 1 Berlin 14.06.2009
75 3:29.63 Silas Kiplagat KEN 20.08.89 1 Ad-Dawhah 11.05.2012
77 3:29.67 Steve Cram GBR 14.10.60 1 Nice 16.07.1985
people want to claim nick willis monaco time, but no you cant cause you know from doing the research after the 2010 "resurfacing" people run 2-3 seconds faster there than ANYWHERE else, mr EPO kiprop included
kiprops best times
3:26.69 monaco
3:29.18 Ad-Dawhah
difference = 2.49 seconds
Silas Kiplagat best times
3:27.64 monaco
3:29.63 Ad-Dawhah
difference = 1.99 seconds
willis best times
3:29.66 monaco
3:32.17 paris
difference = 2.51
andrew wheatings best times
3:30.90 monaco
3:34.39 paris
difference = 3.49
so this leaves us with 2 kenyans and one brit. we have strong suspision that kenya is ripe with doping so that could mean it leaves crams 3:29.67 as the fastest time that wasnt part of the EPO era 92-06 or run at monaco 2010-now. said is not counted cause he tried pushing roids and HGH on austrailians.
to claim that the british were not on any dope would be biased and i think they were on roids and HGH just like said. so this is why i think 3:32 non monaco is what i think the record would be if there was never any PEDs.
What gives with the Brojos lately? They come from big money, big business, establishment worshipping and authority loving GOP stock but recently have advocated for:
1. Raising funds for a doper to fight the IAAF when the evidence is clear that he doped
2. Being concerned that a billionaire shoe company owner and a university are conspiring to skirt transparency laws on a privately funded venture
3. Regulating transgenders in the sport for fairness to women
This runs counter to their usual leanings that WADA , like cops, are always good and catch dirty cheaters, that the wealthy and powerful deserve to buy whatever they want because they earned it with capitalist success, and that winners are determined by performance and the free market, not socially engineered playing fields.
Ok cute, but Cheryuoit has already run 3:31 twice this season, Teferra ran 3:31 also, Iguider ran 3:32.
None in Monaco. All WELL after Kiprop's positive.
Sooo yah.
Expect 3:29 in Monaco as scheduled ?
oh really? so you say it was common knowledge? then how come our local heros on here rekrunner, renato and el k and ghost didnt have anything to say until it was LEAKED. im starting to really think you are a fan boy denier as well.
a name like kiprop in kenya getting busted would have been HUGE on LR instantly in nov, but nope we all had to wait till the LEAK, and instantly after the leak he had EXCUSES. he tried to keep a lid on it for EVER.
"Nobody in Kenya gonna ask questions as to why Kiprop isn't training with all the boys??"
pretty sure the first person to make excuses was renato saying he was INJURED, that turned out to be a LIE
Cheryuoit wont run faster than that the rest of the season unless its monaco.
his best times
3:29.10 monaco
3:31.22 roma
difference = 2.12 seconds
he is currently doing some farming and avoiding the track, and you think if kiprop is sooo poor maybe ol timmay should be out there trying to stack CASH
as far as i can see only 2 people have run sub 3:32, so maybe you can enlighten me on this third person....but lets just take a look at the 2018 1500m top times SO far
1 3:31.22 Timothy CHERUIYOT 20 NOV 1995 KEN KEN 1 Roma (ITA) 31 MAY 2018 (planting potatoes)
2 3:31.48 Timothy CHERUIYOT 20 NOV 1995 KEN KEN 1 Shanghai (CHN) 12 MAY 2018 (planting potatoes)
3 3:31.63 Samuel TEFERA 23 OCT 1999 ETH ETH 2 Shanghai (CHN) 12 MAY 2018
4 3:32.72 Abdelaati IGUIDER 25 MAR 1987 MAR MAR 3 Shanghai (CHN) 12 MAY 2018 (Morocco anyone? and still not under 3:32)
5 3:33.54 Charles Cheboi SIMOTWO 06 MAY 1995 KEN KEN 4 Shanghai (CHN) 12 MAY 2018
6 3:33.79 Elijah Motonei MANANGOI 05 JAN 1993 KEN KEN 2 Roma (ITA) 31 MAY 2018
7 3:34.33 Justus SOGET 22 OCT 1999 KEN KEN 5 Shanghai (CHN) 12 MAY 2018
8 3:34.43 Aman WOTE 18 APR 1984 ETH ETH 6 Shanghai (CHN) 12 MAY 2018
9 3:34.78 Elijah Motonei MANANGOI 05 JAN 1993 KEN KEN 1f1 Gold Coast (AUS) 14 APR 2018
10 3:34.84 Timothy CHERUIYOT 20 NOV 1995 KEN KEN 1 Nairobi (KEN) 17 FEB 2018
so you have tim who is planting potatoes and i predict he runs slower than that as the season goes on and claims some injury...from when he HAD to plant
some no name ethiopian whos best last year was 3:33.78
and a Moroccan, who is prob on that sauce as well, i mean they have a history of it and lots of busts
ex-runner wrote:
Ok cute, but Cheryuoit has already run 3:31 twice this season, Teferra ran 3:31 also, Iguider ran 3:32.
None in Monaco. All WELL after Kiprop's positive.
Sooo yah.
Expect 3:29 in Monaco as scheduled ?
and a 3:29 in monaco is a 3:31-32 everywhere else. if ol timmay runs 3:29 in monaco, expect willis to be 3:31
but keep thinking everyone is clean it was just ol kiproppy and he only did it once and only cause he couldnt afford $32 tea cause he is broke
lets see how this season goes eh? and if im CORRECT please, subway, casual....bring this back and see what storm of nonsense happens then.
Farah is possibly the most tested man on the planet and still ran 3:28. If you follow him on Instagram you'll see he gets tested when in Ethiopia training also.
Even if you want to add your bullshit 2 seconds on top for Monaco then that's still 3:30 and way faster than your 3:33 or 3:35, you maniac.
So if every Kenyan is now tested as much as Farah is, you can still expect a good bunch to run quicker than 3:31. Unless you think Farah is some kind of 1500m WR holder lol.
m!ndweak wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
Ok cute, but Cheryuoit has already run 3:31 twice this season, Teferra ran 3:31 also, Iguider ran 3:32.
None in Monaco. All WELL after Kiprop's positive.
Sooo yah.
Expect 3:29 in Monaco as scheduled ?
and a 3:29 in monaco is a 3:31-32 everywhere else. if ol timmay runs 3:29 in monaco, expect willis to be 3:31
but keep thinking everyone is clean it was just ol kiproppy and he only did it once and only cause he couldnt afford $32 tea cause he is broke
lets see how this season goes eh? and if im CORRECT please, subway, casual....bring this back and see what storm of nonsense happens then.
Mate, you said 3:33-3:35. It's written permanently in this thread. Don't start changing your story to 3:31/3:32.
If they continue to run 3:31 times (like they already have) then obviously I'M correct, not you. Moron. If they run 3:29 then I'm even more correct.
I'll wait till the day when the elite can only run 3:33-3:35, then you can come on here and claim you are correct. Untill then you are talking out of your arse and clearly don't know anything about the sport.
right so you think he was a 3:33 guy at best till his late 20s then gets on al sal and stints with Aden and booom he is running 3:28s (in monaco, so 3:30s) and you want to get mad at me? lolz thats what is so ridiculous about LR
british people on here REFUSE to think paula doped, mo doped and that coe is some angel
kenyan people on here REFUSE to think their idols dope and that all white people are racist
then you have prob 50/50 americans on here that think rupp doped and al sal is shady.
i love america, but im not naive "maniac" as you put it to think that ALL AMERICANS were and always are CLEAN!!!
again mo late 20s 3:33 PR...you act like he did his 3:28 like KENYANS do, in their early 20s.
