Are womens track bottoms degrading?

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

curiouscat wrote:

As a strait man I enjoy looking at girls. But I've always wondered if college women like those super small bottoms, basically compression panties. I can't imagine thousands of girls in college like wearing those. Do they have an advantage over short compression shorts? Or do you think perhaps a lot of pedo coaches wanna see girls wearing them?

By strait, I assume you mean a narrow stretch of water? I'm going to help bring a boat next week from seattle (no, jamin, not interested in a meetup) to San Francisco (still not interested, Jamin).

I was initially concerned about the strait of Juan de Fuca, but the initial forecast is pretty good for the day we are leaving (sunday 17th). As a strait man, if you have any info not shown on the weather forecast, I would appreciate it.

What about the strait of Gibraltar, would you meet there ?

Untrue. Not all shorts are made equal. Even to this day some of them chafe due to the quality and placement of the seams. The short tights and buns have the least risk of chafing.

love watching women play volleyball haha. even indoor volleyball, them tight yoga short things and juicy smooth thighs hnnngghhh..

Well they are way more comfortable and easier to run in. Think about it as shoes, you want the most comfortable ones. Also short tight spandex or usually more exposing because they ride up. But personally when I am running I am not trying to show off or attract people. I am trying to run a good race. So is basically every other women in the race. No one is doing it to attract people because most people I know are not think about attracting guys when they run.

It’s lotteeally like wearing a bathing suit. No one questions the swimmers who wear (way more exposed) swim suits! Why are they questioning runners

cheek leak wrote:

Demented? Because of cheek leak? Is this an across the board thing, or just when men show cheek leak? Because I thought you were defending women who choose to expose their bodies. Why not men?

You are detestable, as are the men you seem to admire. Cease and desist immediately.

She doesn't need to wear makeup and high heels to appear professional. In fact, she would do well avoiding them if she wants to be taken seriously in a professional setting and improve her chances of forward advancement. Studies have shown that men take women more seriously when they appear less sexual- wearing flats, little/no makeup, loose clothing, showing little/no skin. Most professional women who are being considered for executive positions take leadership classes and this information is discussed ad nauseaum. Women should smile less, point more, speak in a confident tone and not laugh at men's jokes to get their just due in the workplace. This is the world men have created. Enjoy!

robert678 wrote:

No they are not degrading. They allow for greater range of motion, and therefore faster times. If a female athlete wants to wear them, then by all means let her, but don't force to wear them if she feels uncomfortable doing so.

Can somebody please point me to the rsearch on "greater range of motion" due to bun huggers?

lol get a clue wrote:

She doesn't need to wear makeup and high heels to appear professional. In fact, she would do well avoiding them if she wants to be taken seriously in a professional setting and improve her chances of forward advancement. Studies have shown that men take women more seriously when they appear less sexual- wearing flats, little/no makeup, loose clothing, showing little/no skin. Most professional women who are being considered for executive positions take leadership classes and this information is discussed ad nauseaum. Women should smile less, point more, speak in a confident tone and not laugh at men's jokes to get their just due in the workplace. This is the world men have created. Enjoy!

This is utter BS. All professional women wear makeup. Not doing it would make you stick out as much as having facial piercings. And if there really were such studies being discussed ad nauseaum at seminars, then I think that my many female friends who attended HBS and GSB would probably know about it.

Heels are a little different, because that's a function of formality, office culture, and a woman's height.

lol get a clue wrote:

She doesn't need to wear makeup and high heels to appear professional. In fact, she would do well avoiding them if she wants to be taken seriously in a professional setting and improve her chances of forward advancement. Studies have shown that men take women more seriously when they appear less sexual- wearing flats, little/no makeup, loose clothing, showing little/no skin. Most professional women who are being considered for executive positions take leadership classes and this information is discussed ad nauseaum. Women should smile less, point more, speak in a confident tone and not laugh at men's jokes to get their just due in the workplace. This is the world men have created. Enjoy!

You're making my point for me. That is, women shouldn't have to dress in any sort of sexual manner to appease a societal norm. But you can't believe there's such a thing as dressing in a sexual manner without also recognizing that bun huggers send a sexual signal as well. See the hypocrisy in not being consistent on this? And again, my point is that my wife doesn't do it for any kind of sexual reason, it's purely cultural. Just like your average college female runner choosing attire for comfort and functional reasons. But that doesn't change how it's perceived by men.

no spankies please wrote:

we women usually prefer shorts, just for the exposure aspect. some women definitely prefer to compete in the tiniest briefs for best range of motion, but that is not the norm. I remember when women's pole vault was introduced and the briefs were crazy small for those athletes. just like women's beach volleyball... all about ratings on tv for men with big eyes. gross.

why do women wear tiny briefs but no speedos for men? feel free to contemplate that.

women wearing yoga pants to walmart is not women wearing tiny briefs. big difference. and how many of those 14 butt cheeks you saw were men's?

Do men require less range of motion?

nimblenw wrote:

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Moderately short shorts don't seem to slow the Kenyans down.

Speaking strictly as a patriarch, this is a MUCH better look than those ridiculous underwear things most of the Americans and Europeans wear.

Everything, including burkas, send a sexual signal to men. Anything female-like is enough to trigger a man’s sexual imagination. Women who wish to advance in the workplace are trained to become more man-like in their appearance dress and mannerisms. Often a woman will be paired with a Coach to help her shop for professional attire and provide intensive training in professional speaking and leadership psychology. It’s basically training in reverse pandering to men.

Not BS at all. It’s the truth.

My D1 school had two choices for women, short spandex shorts or bun huggers, no regular shorts or half tights... Which I think the short spandex is the worst because it does ride up, the bottom of the shorts are fairly high up on the thigh, and not much to grab onto....and so they ride up and bunch up. Bun huggers are uncomfortable to me, for similar reasons, but less so. My preference is always half tights, but again that was not a choice for our running uniform. The men had the option for half tights or regular shorts...So my input here, is don't assume the women have very many options, at least at my school we didn't.

northeast runner wrote:

My D1 school had two choices for women, short spandex shorts or bun huggers, no regular shorts or half tights... Which I think the short spandex is the worst because it does ride up, the bottom of the shorts are fairly high up on the thigh, and not much to grab onto....and so they ride up and bunch up. Bun huggers are uncomfortable to me, for similar reasons, but less so. My preference is always half tights, but again that was not a choice for our running uniform. The men had the option for half tights or regular shorts...So my input here, is don't assume the women have very many options, at least at my school we didn't.

Then make options/inroads for yourself and your future teammates. Refuse to wear what's uncomfortable and unfair.

I know most of this thread is jokes but when I ran at the English Schools' our team did not have a choice. It was bunhuggers or nothing and they were in a not good colour (think something like white).

One person literally refused to run in them and as she was due to finish top 3 (which she did! Bravo!) the old nice dinosaur who had the kit bag relented and let her have a pair of boys shorts.