What about the Kennedy - Goucher race where Kennedy hammered every other lap? Are there any videos? Thanks.
What about the Kennedy - Goucher race where Kennedy hammered every other lap? Are there any videos? Thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLgIgUz78ZE&t=4sVon Hayek wrote:
How come everyone likes a front runner but a sit and wait runner is "chicken s***" according to Prefontaine?
You have got to give credit to a front runner like Filbert Bayi.
When a front runner wins, it is amazing against a sit and wait runner like John Walker.
How come there are no more mid race surges to break up a field in the 5k/10k anymore?
The field are too closely matched in this era? Less EPO?
Shouldn't the fields have been closer with more EPO in former times? Why should less EPO/tighter controls lead to more homogeneous fields?
Sand Dunes wrote:
Von Hayek wrote:
Who is the Frenchman you're referring to?
Mimoun?
Jazy?
Bosse? He is a front runner isn't he?
French are cowards.
Question: You know what the French battle flag is?
Answer: The white flag.
Dude, you are totally clueless. Go read some military history. No joke.
Take WW1. If anything, the french were brave to a devestaning fault, charging entrenched German positions only to get mowed down, wave after wave. Valor and courage were everything to the French, part of the culture for a very long time. 1.4 million dead and 4.3 million wounded in WW1. The horrors of two (modern) world wars fought on their home turf kind of cooled the attitude a bit. Who could blame them?
Jo72 wrote:
Shouldn't the fields have been closer with more EPO in former times? Why should less EPO/tighter controls lead to more homogeneous fields?
Assuming not everyone used EPO in the 90's.
FlyingFast wrote:
@Flying wrote:Who other than running geeks idolizes those guys?
Who other than running geeks knows who the heck Mo Farah is? Or what "sit and wait" running even is?
He's well known in Britain. He may be the only current distance runner who is famous.
Cheeto Benito wrote:
FlyingFast wrote:
Who other than running geeks knows who the heck Mo Farah is? Or what "sit and wait" running even is?
He's well known in Britain. He may be the only current distance runner who is famous.
Farah competed in a weak era. He was the best of a weak bunch of 5000m/10000m runners.
Name a great runner who was on top of their form that Farah competed against?!
Kutsopek wrote:
Cheeto Benito wrote:
He's well known in Britain. He may be the only current distance runner who is famous.
Farah competed in a weak era. He was the best of a weak bunch of 5000m/10000m runners.
Name a great runner who was on top of their form that Farah competed against?!
26:44 runner Galen Rupp.
NOPalito wrote:
Kutsopek wrote:
Farah competed in a weak era. He was the best of a weak bunch of 5000m/10000m runners.
Name a great runner who was on top of their form that Farah competed against?!
26:44 runner Galen Rupp.
You consider Rupp a great runner?
Good yes. Great no.
Kutsopek wrote:
NOPalito wrote:
26:44 runner Galen Rupp.
You consider Rupp a great runner?
Good yes. Great no.
Rupp's 10000 PR is top 15 or so of all time, and is faster than Farah's. If you look only at the post-EPO heyday, he's more like top three. Rupp is a 2-time olympic medalist in different events. He's won a world major marathon.
The only complaint I would have is that Alberto Svengali kept him from doing world XC.
Von Hayek wrote:
Sand Dunes wrote:
French are cowards.
Question: You know what the French battle flag is?
Answer: The white flag.
According to historian Niall Ferguson, of the 125 major European wars fought since 1495, the French have fought in 50, more than both Austria (47) and England (43). And they achieved an impressive overall batting average: out of a total of 168 battles fought since 387 bc, they have won 109, lost 49 and drawn 10.
Education is important.
Since 1935, how do their numbers look? After all, few of the people before then are alive and kicking today.
Mong Face wrote:
belial wrote:
So brave. Asking the bold questions my friend.
So brave, using a username starting with a lower case letter, proper gansta.
I think he was referring to the bold font, as in being sarcastic. I could be wrong, but...
We can think of front runners as being brave, but front runners - and in that category, I would also include the "long run for home" type runners - have more control of their own destiny. They are not reliant on what other runners do.
And, to a great degree, also, the front runners probably run that way because they feel that they are vulnerable in a last 300m/200m bust up.
For example, Steve Cram, at his peak, always wanted to run the legs off Ovett and Coe long before a last lap - 200m from home -charge.
Racehorse wrote:
Mong Face wrote:
So brave, using a username starting with a lower case letter, proper gansta.
I think he was referring to the bold font, as in being sarcastic. I could be wrong, but...
No comment.
portsea57 wrote:
We can think of front runners as being brave, but front runners - and in that category, I would also include the "long run for home" type runners - have more control of their own destiny. They are not reliant on what other runners do.
And, to a great degree, also, the front runners probably run that way because they feel that they are vulnerable in a last 300m/200m bust up.
For example, Steve Cram, at his peak, always wanted to run the legs off Ovett and Coe long before a last lap - 200m from home -charge.
Peak Cram v Peak Ovett would have been a great race.
Ovett was not the same after 1982.
Von Hayek wrote:
How come everyone likes a front runner but a sit and wait runner is "chicken s***" according to Prefontaine?
Because 4th place is FIRST WINNER after gold, silver, and bronze!!