PLEASE DISCUSS. I was labeled a Return Policy Abuser at a running shoe store because I had 4 or 5 returns.

Dril wrote:

Shoe Sales Man wrote:

its very hard to sell shoes that have been walked let alone run in for 10 miles! You are not a good customer and I would advise finding and buying a few of a pair at once you can live with. Leave the poor store alone ! They are struggling small business and you are adding to the problem my man!

Weird somehow zappos, runningwarehouse and even the online nike store manage to remain profitable after upholding policies to sell worn shoes. Sounds like these struggling small businesses may be struggling for a reason. Time to close the store and spend your time doing something useful! THANK YOU!

It's not weird that Zappos, etc. can take returns and small shops struggle to do it. They do the sort of volume business that allows that. Smaller shops do not.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Shameless scallywag wrote:

You were well and properly banned. You are a lying cheating louse and a cheap one on top of it.

Come on guy. I'm just asking for a serious tone with this. Please.

I think he is serious. You returned 5 out of 7 shoes. I have been a runner for 35 years, buying an average of 6 pairs of shoes a year. I have never returned a pair. I have had a few after 20-30 miles that I realized weren’t as good as I had hoped, but just worked them into my rotation less often or for just short, easy runs. This thread only confirms what most of us already suspected from your other posts and contributions- you seem like a dick. And I am being serious. I hope you can figure it out.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

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4mm-6mm drop seem to be a sweat spot for me, so I focus on those types of shoes. Also, shoes with more rubber than foam on the sole work for me. Rubber absorbs shock extremely well, way better than foam, so I think the rubber is picking up most of the shock, limiting how much shock my back picks up. There is a reason why the Tarahumara create running shoes out of tires.

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Embarrassing you associated the Tarahumara name with this word vomit about shoes. You do not know the way.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

My running mechanics are solid ( seriously, I get compliments all the time, .)

You're seriously ill.

Dill,

You are totally lost on thread, Every time this guy takes back shoes , this poor little store eats it. Its an awful beating to a small business who is hanging on by a thread to stay open. They have no choice to be nice and take them back! And you side with the guy to continue

Why don't you and Lion Scam open up a corner running store together , Made for each other !

HRE wrote:

Dril wrote:

Weird somehow zappos, runningwarehouse and even the online nike store manage to remain profitable after upholding policies to sell worn shoes. Sounds like these struggling small businesses may be struggling for a reason. Time to close the store and spend your time doing something useful! THANK YOU!

It's not weird that Zappos, etc. can take returns and small shops struggle to do it. They do the sort of volume business that allows that. Smaller shops do not.

Sorry I should have typed /s.... "SARCASM". That's the point. Running shoes are a commodity. Unless you as a retail store can offer your customers some other type of additional value like for example not having crappy return policies, or having actual valuable staff then you can expect to go out of business because you cant compete on volumes. You could strive to be just successful enough to earn a living IF you are loyal to your customers. It sounds like despite his princess feet Scorpion_walker is a loyal customer. There's no reason he shouldn't be buying online, yet he choses not to. This store should be trying to retain his business not lose it. It sounds like the store owners are the entitled ones.

Shoe Sales Man wrote:

Dill,

You are totally lost on thread, Every time this guy takes back shoes , this poor little store eats it. Its an awful beating to a small business who is hanging on by a thread to stay open. They have no choice to be nice and take them back! And you side with the guy to continue

Why don't you and Lion Scam open up a corner running store together , Made for each other !

I'm not lost at all. If this store can't afford proper return polices than they should eat it and go out of business. Offer a comparative advantage or get lost. It's called capitalism. I love how quickly you shills turn your tune when it relates to some narrative told by the media e.g. "small business." We as a society believe in capitalism, market forces, survival of the fittest, creative destruction, the invisible hand, i could go one forever. These B&M shoe stores should either craft polices to match zappos (unlimited returns) or GFO. Scorpion_crawler was well within his rights and the store policies (as he's told it) to return the shoes. If the stores doesnt want to offer unlimited returns institute a limit on returns, or create a reward/frequent buyer program that offers returns to only those customers. Just do freaking something rather than arbitrarily ban customers. That only invites arguments like "they only did it because I'm black." If this store was a real business they would have created policies that incentivized profitable behavior.

Point 2) Why would I open a running store? I'm college educated in STEM and bill my time hourly (GASP). I've identified my comparative advantage and capitalize on it. The store scorpion_sloth shops at should as well.

Bottom line:

It is a business. They want to (and have to) increase their bottom line. You come along and return 5 out of 7 pairs of shoes you purchased from them. Obviously they will not allow you to continue doing that. They are a business, not a door mat for entitled people to walk on.

If they're eating more shoes from this guy than they're selling I don't know that they should try to retain his business. If it was my shop I'd rather have him shop online. These sorts of things usually assume that customers aren't going to exploit the policy consistently. I know of people who have been asked not to return to an all you can eat buffet.

I've returned only 2 shoes (1 with 20mi on them due to being too small, the other with 90mi due to the shoe still feeling like a cinder block after all those miles) out of 30+ shoes in my entire life so far.

...and I've also bought tons of clothing, nutrition, accessories, insoles, and whatnot so my 2 stores i shop from know I'm not a shill.

LOL. "Scorpion Crawler" ? "Scorpion_Sloth"? Hey, man I'm running a sub 6 min mile this year! sub 18 5k by 2020. It's coming.

You got jokes ..lol

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Blah blah some stupid ass life story

Listen. No one gives a crap about your reason for needing to return over 70% of your shoes. It’s irrelevant. You know your behaviour is costing the small business money. There is no suggestion you intend to modify this behaviour.

So you are knowingly using this business as a charity to fund your ‘unique’ needs.

You are scum.

HRE wrote:

These sorts of things usually assume that customers aren't going to exploit the policy consistently.

Why? What fantasy world do you live in?

SMELLS LIKE SOCIALISM.

Dril wrote:

HRE wrote:

These sorts of things usually assume that customers aren't going to exploit the policy consistently.

Why? What fantasy world do you live in?

In the real one where the majority of people aren’t pieces of garbage like yourself and the OP. Yes, if a policy exists with potential loopholes some asshat will exploit it. But equally the store is well within their rights to ban such scum.

Ha. Good luck in your real world where people dont exploit polices and loopholes. Are you sure you live in America? Christ you people are suckers.

I can’t even believe that you think returning 5 out of 7 pairs of shoes is ok. That combined with your “princess and the pea” sensitivity for picking shoes makes me think you must have a mental illness (especially when considering your abysmal running times). The fact that you actaully wondered if it was a race issue makes it clear you have a mental illness, stupid and a terrible human being.

If that was my store I would ban you. You are are bad for business and just a messed up awful person.

And no, I’m not being mean - this is just pure honesty. You have a disconnect with reality. It’s not ok for people to behave the way you do. You are truly just an awful person.

Forget the shoes, how did the company figure out you are black through the mail? Did you include pictures with your returns?