Still meeting recruiting goals though wrote:
Most of the Pentagoners just sit it cubicles anyways so why even have physical or age limitations?
Still meeting recruiting goals though wrote:
Most of the Pentagoners just sit it cubicles anyways so why even have physical or age limitations?
Beavus wrote:Physical Readiness Test (PRT) Chart for Males: 17-19 Years of Age.
Performance Level: Curl-ups/Push-ups/1.5-mile run
-Maximum: 109/ 92/ 8:15
-Outstanding 102/ 86/ 9:00
-Excellent 90/76/9:45
-Good 62/51/11:00
-Satisfactory 50/42/12:30
Physical Readiness Test (PRT) Chart for Females: 17-19 Years of Age.
Performance Level: Curl-ups/Push-ups/1.5-mile run
-Maximum: 109/ 51/ 9:29
-Outstanding: 102/ 47/ 11:30
-Excellent: 90/ 42/ 12:30
-Good: 62/ 24/ 13:30
-Satisfactory: 50/ 19/ 15:00
Those scores are crazy. When I was a youngster in the military, my wife and I had to do a 5-part PT test three times a year, and one of the core components was a 1.5 mile run. The pass standards for men and women were 10:30 and 12:00. If you ran slower, you did remedial PT until the next test in a few months. If you failed again (without a legitimate medical reason), you were discharged. 7:30 got you 100% for the men; I don't know where the ladies' scale topped out.
The CIA takes luxurious helicopters and mini-submarine boats to kill Bin Ladin etc | fat old whales can do that gig ;-)
CapnPerv wrote:
Distance = rate x time wrote:
I agree they should require the same times.
But giving them a head start is like making them run different distances. Maybe men have 15 minutes to run 1.5 miles, and women to run 1.3 miles?
A "head start?"
What are they: retreating?
Good point:-
Well in the case that we're doing the chasing I guess we'd need to ask the enemy to run away a bit slower as they'll be getting chased down by a women (who achieved a lower qualifying score) today!
How stupid is that as well? This is why when we strive for equality it should be true across the board equality - Not just when it suits!!
SJW Princess wrote:
CapnPerv wrote:
A "head start?"
What are they: retreating?
Good point:-
Well in the case that we're doing the chasing I guess we'd need to ask the enemy to run away a bit slower as they'll be getting chased down by a women (who achieved a lower qualifying score) today!
How stupid is that as well? This is why when we strive for equality it should be true across the board equality - Not just when it suits!!
The regular branches never chase terrorists rather they just drop rounds on them. Only the stupid Marines beat and choke terrorists to death anymore.
Crippled Blind wrote:
The regular branches never chase terrorists rather they just drop rounds on them. Only the stupid Marines beat and choke terrorists to death anymore.
USMC troops do not tap their officers on their shoulder and say, "Colonel, I have a great idea. Let's go in there out numbered. Let's go in there with old and outdated weapons!" If Marines are engaging adversaries and weapon jam and said adversary is ten metres away, one's only choice is to charge and choke out said adversary. You may say: Why do USMC officers put their troops in awful situations? USN Admirals tell USMC officers to send troops into f8ck up situations.
Fat people can pilot drone attacks too.
I can walk 1.5 miles in 18 minutes. I do better on my way to work every day.
42 pushups is astronomically harder than 12:30 for 1.5 miles. They want beefy.
The Army is piloting the ACFT now. Easier to pass, much harder to max. It’s age and gender neutral.
USA Navy:
Months needed to produce the next whiny Navy recruit wannabe: females - 9 months, males - 2 minutes and a plastic cup.
Our armed forces really do discriminate against men.
Crusty Old Runner wrote:
Are you kidding with these times??? I had to read this twice to make sure these old eyes weren't deceiving me. I'm 57, been running for 30+ yrs and have a plethora of chronic injuries (ruptured PTT, ankle OA, Achilles tendonosis, patellar tendonitis, chronic back pain). Plus I'm not exactly built for distance running (5-7, 165). Despite these injuries and with limited mileage (20 mpw), I can currently run a 1.5 mile in 10:30, and a 3 miler in around 22:30.
So, and old fart like me with a "rupture PTT, ankle OA & chronic back pain" can blow away these minimum qualifying times for the run distances? Too funny! ?
It’s not for the navy seals, fool. This is to weed out the bottom of the bottom for jobs that require mostly sitting. Congratulations. You are not the lowest of the low.
John Utah wrote:
Crusty Old Runner wrote:
Are you kidding with these times??? I had to read this twice to make sure these old eyes weren't deceiving me. I'm 57, been running for 30+ yrs and have a plethora of chronic injuries (ruptured PTT, ankle OA, Achilles tendonosis, patellar tendonitis, chronic back pain). Plus I'm not exactly built for distance running (5-7, 165). Despite these injuries and with limited mileage (20 mpw), I can currently run a 1.5 mile in 10:30, and a 3 miler in around 22:30.
So, and old fart like me with a "rupture PTT, ankle OA & chronic back pain" can blow away these minimum qualifying times for the run distances? Too funny! ?
It’s not for the navy seals, fool. This is to weed out the bottom of the bottom for jobs that require mostly sitting. Congratulations. You are not the lowest of the low.
This is fake news.
Drones and robots will fight our wars, not flabby millennial s.
SJWHippie wrote:
John Utah wrote:
It’s not for the navy seals, fool. This is to weed out the bottom of the bottom for jobs that require mostly sitting. Congratulations. You are not the lowest of the low.
This is fake news.
Drones and robots will fight our wars, not flabby millennial s.
That’s what I’m saying. These people will be sitting down to do their jobs.
d.p.r.k poster wrote:
what are the comparable requirements for those under marshal kim jong-un ?
Not sure, but South Korean marines have to be able to run 3K in under 11 minutes :
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8699278Where did you learn that US tax payers pay for Military Healthcare? They do nothing for your health except destroy it your entire enlistment and give you water and some few pills of motrine. After you are you out you have to deal with the VA. They only military people with tax payer healthcare is the ones with a leg blown off or extreme PTSD.
WillB2019 wrote:
Where did you learn that US tax payers pay for Military Healthcare? They do nothing for your health except destroy it your entire enlistment and give you water and some few pills of Motrin. After you are you out you have to deal with the VA. They only military people with tax payer healthcare is the ones with a leg blown off or extreme PTSD.
Something in between excellent Medica Health Insurance, in US military I once had and what you stated. I agree with the gist of your statement. More than once while on active duty military, I had 103 degree fever and was given either aspirin or acetaminophen and told to get back out there.
Some people think highly of Navy Corpsmen. I am sure some are kind to puppies and are nice to their mothers. I saw corpsmen's entire mission was to keep sick and injured from seeing Navy medical doctors.
WillB2019 wrote:
Where did you learn that US tax payers pay for Military Healthcare? They do nothing for your health except destroy it your entire enlistment and give you water and some few pills of motrine. After you are you out you have to deal with the VA. They only military people with tax payer healthcare is the ones with a leg blown off or extreme PTSD.
Huh? My family (Active Army) gets free healthcare. It’s still health insurance even if you don’t use it. With a wife and two kids we use it all the time. Through an EKG I found out I had an atrial-septal defect that I’ve had since birth. They closed that up with an occluder sent up through my femoral artery. Cool stuff. I didn’t pay a dime. My dental care is also free and I’ve used the heck out of that :)
Alan
Most of the civilians flaming on the "soft" navy standards have no idea what sailors and officers in afloat commands go through.
In port (i.e. tied to the pier), your workday can vary significantly depending upon your job...expect to be at the ship at 600-630 and leave around 1600-1700 if you're a topsider or later if you're an engineer. That also doesn't factor in duty, when you have to spend the night over and sleep on the ship in port every few days. 10-12+ hour days take a heavy toll on the body and many sailors choose less than healthy means of coping.
Underway (out at sea), you stand 6-8 hours of watch in a 24 hour period in addition to your day job which will likely consume 10-14 hours of your day. That leave only 4-6 hours to do everything else your body needs including sleep, eat and decompress. As you can see, working out often goes the wayside to catch more sleep. Underway periods can last up to 6-7 months with only a handful of short port visits.
Ships also have pretty crappy gyms unless you are on an aircraft carrier....Mine has one busted treadmill and five bikes for a ship with 300+ people onboard.
From what I've heard, subs are way worse. I'm pretty sure they have like three dumbbells and that's it.
Thanks for your service, Navy Cor-ps-eman!