joedirt wrote:
Comparing the results to some of their previous meets, yes and no. They look like they pretty much just did a tempo run (their top 2 in most of their races went 3,4) and rested their 5,6 runners from conferences. It was not an all out effort from either CU or UNM.
smart by both teams, and I think this does however show NM can be had like I thought a few weeks ago
Any way to follow the mountain men's results? That link isn't working.
Here are the latest men's projections with 7 of the 9 regions in the books (still waiting on Mountain and West)
1 Michigan State
2 Michigan
3 Princeton
4 Navy
5 Iowa State
6 Oklahoma State
7 BYU
8 Northern Arizona
9 Syracuse
10 Iona
11 Mid. Tenn. State
12 Ole Miss
13 Arkansas
14 Texas
15 Furman
16 Virginia Tech
17 Stanford
18 Portland
19 Colorado
20 Colorado St.
21 Southern Utah
22 UCLA
23 Oregon
24 Air Force
25 Utah State
26 Army West Point
27 Villanova
28 Georgetown
29 Washington
30 Boise State
31 Washington St.
And here is the logic behind each selection:
Teams under consideration by points:
6 Colorado, Colorado St.
4 UCLA, Oregon
2 Army West Point, Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Georgetown, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 Stony Brook, Villanova, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Southern Utah (6), Air Force (4), Minnesota (3), Utah State (3), Washington St. (2), Washington (2), Boise State (2), Columbia (1), Arkansas_b_team (1), Belmont (1), Purdue (1), Auburn (1), Campbell (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), Penn (1), San Francisco (1), Kentucky (1), Oakland (1)
Breaking ties between Colorado, Colorado St. using head-to-head
Colorado St. loses head-to-head vs Colorado, is not selected (mountain)
19: Colorado (#3 mountain) is selected, has losses to (joe_piane_notre_dame_invitational) Southern Utah;
Teams under consideration by points:
7 Southern Utah
6 Colorado St.
4 UCLA, Oregon
2 Army West Point, Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Georgetown, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 Stony Brook, Villanova, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Air Force (4), Minnesota (3), Utah State (3), Washington St. (2), Boise State (2), Washington (2), Columbia (1), Arkansas_b_team (1), Belmont (1), Auburn (1), Campbell (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), Penn (1), Purdue (1), Kentucky (1), Oakland (1), San Francisco (1)
Southern Utah not selected with push (gets in later on their own)
20: Colorado St. (#4 mountain) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration by points:
7 Southern Utah
4 Air Force, UCLA, Oregon
2 Army West Point, Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Georgetown, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 Stony Brook, Villanova, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Minnesota (3), Utah State (3), Washington St. (2), Boise State (2), Washington (2), Columbia (1), Arkansas_b_team (1), Belmont (1), Auburn (1), Campbell (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), Penn (1), Purdue (1), Kentucky (1), Oakland (1), San Francisco (1)
21: Southern Utah (#5 mountain) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration by points:
4 Air Force, UCLA, Oregon
3 Utah State
2 Army West Point, Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Georgetown, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 Stony Brook, Villanova, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Minnesota (3), Washington St. (2), Washington (2), Boise State (2), Columbia (1), Arkansas_b_team (1), Belmont (1), Purdue (1), Auburn (1), Campbell (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), Penn (1), San Francisco (1), Kentucky (1), Oakland (1)
Breaking ties between Air Force, UCLA, Oregon using head-to-head
Air Force loses head-to-head vs Air Force, is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational)
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Air Force and Oregon
Oregon loses head-to-head vs UCLA, is not selected (pac_12_championships, west)
22: UCLA (#3 west) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration by points:
4 Air Force, Oregon
3 Utah State
2 Army West Point, Washington, Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Georgetown, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 Stony Brook, Villanova, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Minnesota (3), Washington St. (2), Boise State (2), Columbia (1), Arkansas_b_team (1), Belmont (1), Auburn (1), Campbell (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), Penn (1), Purdue (1), Kentucky (1), Oakland (1), San Francisco (1)
Breaking ties between Air Force, Oregon using head-to-head
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Air Force and Oregon
Breaking ties between Air Force, Oregon using common opponents
Common opponents are tied for Air Force, Oregon (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Wyoming, Colorado, Washington St., Pittsburgh, BYU, Washington, UCLA, Boise State, Texas Tech, Baylor, California, Utah State, Stanford, San Francisco, Portland, Weber State, Notre Dame, Texas)
Breaking ties between ['Air Force', 'Oregon'] using highest place at regionals.
Broke tie by selecting Oregon (highest regional finish).
23: Oregon (#4 west) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration by points:
4 Air Force
3 Utah State
2 Army West Point, Washington, Boise State, Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Georgetown, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 Stony Brook, Villanova, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Minnesota (3), Washington St. (2), Columbia (1), Arkansas_b_team (1), Belmont (1), Purdue (1), Auburn (1), Campbell (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), Penn (1), San Francisco (1), Kentucky (1), Oakland (1)
24: Air Force (#6 mountain) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration by points:
3 Utah State
2 Army West Point, Washington, Boise State, Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Georgetown, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 Weber State, Stony Brook, Villanova, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Minnesota (3), Washington St. (2), Columbia (1), Arkansas_b_team (1), Belmont (1), Auburn (1), Campbell (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), Penn (1), Purdue (1), Kentucky (1), Oakland (1), San Francisco (1)
25: Utah State (#7 mountain) is selected, has losses to (mountain_west_championships) Boise State;
Teams under consideration by points:
3 Boise State
2 Army West Point, Washington, Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Georgetown, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 Weber State, New Mexico, Stony Brook, Villanova, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Minnesota (3), Washington St. (2), Columbia (1), Arkansas_b_team (1), Belmont (1), Purdue (1), Auburn (1), Campbell (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), Penn (1), San Francisco (1), Kentucky (1), Oakland (1)
Boise State not selected with push (gets in later on their own)
Breaking ties between Army West Point, Washington, Illinois, North Carolina St. using head-to-head
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Army West Point and Washington
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Army West Point and Illinois
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Army West Point and North Carolina St.
Illinois loses head-to-head vs Washington, is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational)
North Carolina St. loses head-to-head vs Washington, is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational)
Illinois loses head-to-head vs Illinois, is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational)
Breaking ties between Army West Point, Washington using common opponents
Common opponents are tied for Army West Point, Washington (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Arizona, Columbia, Providence, Connecticut, Iona, Penn, Syracuse)
Breaking ties between ['Army West Point', 'Washington'] using highest place at regionals.
Broke tie by selecting Army West Point (highest regional finish).
26: Army West Point (#3 northeast) is selected, has losses to (paul_short) Georgetown, Penn, Liberty;
Teams under consideration by points:
2 Georgetown, Washington, Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Columbia, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 Weber State, New Mexico, Stony Brook, Villanova, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Minnesota (3), Boise State (3), Washington St. (2), Penn (2), Arkansas_b_team (1), Belmont (1), Liberty (1), Purdue (1), Auburn (1), Campbell (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), San Francisco (1), Kentucky (1), Oakland (1)
Breaking ties between Georgetown, Washington, Illinois, North Carolina St. using head-to-head
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Georgetown and Washington
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Georgetown and Illinois
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Georgetown and North Carolina St.
Illinois loses head-to-head vs Washington, is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational)
North Carolina St. loses head-to-head vs Washington, is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational)
Illinois loses head-to-head vs Illinois, is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational)
Breaking ties between Georgetown, Washington using common opponents
Common opponents are tied for Georgetown, Washington (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Arizona, Colorado, BYU, Oregon, Providence, Connecticut, Arizona State, Gonzaga, Penn)
Breaking ties between ['Georgetown', 'Washington'] using highest place at regionals.
Broke tie by selecting Georgetown (highest regional finish).
27: Villanova (#3 mid_atlantic) is selected, gives no points (pushed in)
28: Georgetown (#4 mid_atlantic) is selected, has losses to (adidas_di_pre_nationals) Campbell, Liberty, Charlotte, Tennessee, Weber State;
Teams under consideration by points:
2 Washington, Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Weber State, Columbia, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 New Mexico, Stony Brook, Penn State, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Minnesota (3), Boise State (3), Liberty (2), Washington St. (2), Campbell (2), Penn (2), Arkansas_b_team (1), Charlotte (1), Belmont (1), Purdue (1), Auburn (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), San Francisco (1), Kentucky (1), Tennessee (1), Oakland (1)
Breaking ties between Washington, Illinois, North Carolina St. using head-to-head
Illinois loses head-to-head vs Washington, is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational)
North Carolina St. loses head-to-head vs Washington, is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational)
Illinois loses head-to-head vs Illinois, is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational)
29: Washington (#5 west) is selected, has losses to (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational) Minnesota, Washington St.;
Teams under consideration by points:
3 Boise State, Washington St.
2 Illinois, North Carolina St.
1 Weber State, Columbia, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 New Mexico, Stony Brook, Penn State, Tulsa, Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Texas A&M, McNeese State, Florida State
Others with points: Minnesota (4), Liberty (2), Campbell (2), Penn (2), Arkansas_b_team (1), Charlotte (1), Belmont (1), Auburn (1), Lipscomb (1), Eastern Kentucky (1), Purdue (1), Kentucky (1), Oakland (1), San Francisco (1), Tennessee (1)
Breaking ties between Boise State, Washington St. using head-to-head
Washington St. loses head-to-head vs Boise State (most recent matchup), is not selected (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational, west)
30: Boise State (#6 west) is selected, has losses to (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational) Minnesota, Washington St., North Carolina St., San Francisco, Eastern Kentucky, Purdue;
Teams under consideration by points:
4 Washington St.
1 Weber State, Wisconsin, Alabama
0 Stony Brook, Penn State, Tulsa, Virginia, Texas A&M
Others with points: Minnesota (5), North Carolina St. (3), Illinois (2), Liberty (2), Purdue (2), Campbell (2), Eastern Kentucky (2), Penn (2), San Francisco (2), Columbia (1), Arkansas_b_team (1), Charlotte (1), Belmont (1), Auburn (1), Lipscomb (1), Kentucky (1), Tennessee (1), Oakland (1)
31: Washington St. (#7 west) is selected, has losses to (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational) Minnesota; (joe_piane_notre_dame_invitational) Eastern Kentucky, California, Alabama, North Carolina St., New Mexico;
Yeah, it's going to be determined by how far back the 5th place finisher is on the international all star team running for New Mexico and how well the 4-7 runners for CU place. Add in an Oregon squad that is about 50/50 foreign and it's like the USA vs. the World races at the Penn Relays. Hopefully CU has learned its lesson from last years nationals.
San Fran ladies up there as well
Rojo, that would be wild if the Mid-Atlantic got 4 teams in. Georgetown had an off day but hopefully the wins over Navy and Army at Paul Short are enough.
Is Northern Arizona seriously only running 5 guys? That seems insanely risky. If one person gets injured they are out of nats.
Women Auto Qualifiers
1 Ole Miss 2 Georgetown 3 Arkansas 4 Texas 5 Penn State 6 Villanova 7 Providence College 8 Dartmouth 9 North Carolina State 10 Furman 11 Michigan 12 Michigan State 13 Iowa State 14 Oklahoma State 15 Colorado 16 University of New Mexico
joedirt wrote:
Is Northern Arizona seriously only running 5 guys? That seems insanely risky. If one person gets injured they are out of nats.
They’re ahead at 2 miles in. Walloping BYU.
Thanks Gordan and Adam O from FloTrack wrote:
Women Auto Qualifiers
1 Ole Miss 2 Georgetown 3 Arkansas 4 Texas 5 Penn State 6 Villanova 7 Providence College 8 Dartmouth 9 North Carolina State 10 Furman 11 Michigan 12 Michigan State 13 Iowa State 14 Oklahoma State 15 Colorado 16 University of New Mexico
19 Wisconsin 20 Minnesota 21 Stanford 22 Boise State 23 Washington 24 BYU 25 Utah State 26 Eastern Kentucky 27 Syracuse 28 Columbia 29 Missouri 30 Virginia Tech 31 Louisville
17 Oregon 18 San Francisco
Never mind, they just hadn't registered at the split I was looking at (3 mile). They were in 4th at 3 miles. There is still a lot of room for change as there's about 50 guys within 8 seconds of the lead at 3 miles.
Women through 5k
1 San Francisco
5 / 5 scorers 59
1Charlotte Taylor 16:09.70
5Weronika Pyzik 16:23.10
7Isabelle Brauer 16:23.40
14Marie Bouchard 16:42.10
30Tatjana Schulte 17:06.10
46Elizabeth Bird 17:24.20
48Lea Meyer 17:27.90
2 Oregon
5 / 5 scorers 81
5Katie Rainsberger 16:23.10
8Lilli Burdon 16:25.70
13Carmela Cardama Baez 16:38.90
27Emma Abrahamson 17:01.40
28Jessica Hull 17:04.60
29Judy Pendergast 17:04.90
32Alli Cash 17:08.40
3 Stanford
5 / 5 scorers 94
4Fiona O'Keeffe 16:22.30
10Vanessa Fraser 16:26.10
18Ella Donaghu 16:50.10
20Christina Aragon 16:50.30
42Abbie McNulty 17:19.30
51Jessica Lawson 17:30.70
4 Boise State
5 / 5 scorers 106
2Allie Ostrander 16:09.90
21Minttu Hukka 16:50.50
22Emily Venters 16:52.10
25Clare O'Brien 16:58.60
35Anna McDonald 17:11.40
41Grace McConnochie 17:18.20
44Alexis Fuller 17:21.20
5 California
5 / 5 scorers 196
9Bethan Knights 16:25.90
11Brie Oakley 16:29.00
47Marissa Williams 17:25.90
55Annie Boos 17:32.50
74Jordyn Colter 17:45.10
79Marissa Dobry 17:48.40
80Chloe Hansel 17:49.50
6 Washington
5 / 5 scorers 200
3Amy-Eloise Neale 16:21.40
38Emily Hamlin 17:14.80
39Isobel Batt-Doyle 17:15.50
57Anna Maxwell 17:33.20
62Allie Schadler 17:38.80
74Nicole Zielinski 17:45.10
92Kaitlyn Neal 18:03.90
I counted 76 Stanford 92 Oregon 94 San Francisco
Mt: NAU, BYU, CU
SF
Stanford
no big surprises in the mountain
is anyone watching the flotrack coverage? Their at large projections are completely different. i think it all comes from army?
flotrack??? wrote:
is anyone watching the flotrack coverage? Their at large projections are completely different. i think it all comes from army?
also they are a bunch of idiots
flotrack??? wrote:
is anyone watching the flotrack coverage? Their at large projections are completely different. i think it all comes from army?
Why would anyone watch flotrack????
flotrack??? wrote:
flotrack??? wrote:
is anyone watching the flotrack coverage? Their at large projections are completely different. i think it all comes from army?
also they are a bunch of idiots
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