rojo wrote:
Once a race starts, everyone is supposed to have an equal opportunity for victory. If one person has a personal pacer, they should be DQd.
There's nothing in the rules against this and it happens at nearly every paying marathon that will allow it. It's often seen with good East African women who bring their husbands to pace them.
Left Said Fred wrote:
rojo wrote:Once a race starts, everyone is supposed to have an equal opportunity for victory. If one person has a personal pacer, they should be DQd.
There's nothing in the rules against this and it happens at nearly every paying marathon that will allow it. It's often seen with good East African women who bring their husbands to pace them.
Spot-on. Too much ado....
PS: Great handle...."I am too sexy for Milan, New York and Japan..."
Chicago needs to add pacers back into the race. These 2:10+ winning times are sad to see.
Did nobody notice that kipchoge had a young training partner as a pace maker in Berlin? Nobody seemed go care then
So Bett is not running in front of Rupp and not leading the race...rojo is looking like a moran yet again.
I just checked my email to see if RickY Simms got back to me about whether Rupp has his own rabbit. Simms didn't write back but another source did.
"He must be the "Hidden" Pacer only (officially there Are no Pacers). I dont think he goes to finish."
Bit this pace is so slow it sure doesnt' look like a pacer. Or maybe they knew people were on to them and cancelled the plans.
NOP Skeptic wrote:
rojo wrote:Is it grey line? Yes it is, says the man who had a personal rabbit for his own marathon pb (Weldon ran the entire race - ran with me for 25 miles and then went ahead for the 26th).
I've got less of an issue if the dude is there just to make sure they don't go out in 67. If the guy wants to make sure they go out in 64 so it's at least a 207 race, I don't have too much of an issue of it but am angry about the lack of transparency and it's still shady.
But if the dude is there to run directly front of Rupp to break the wind, then I've got a huge issue with it.
Once a race starts, everyone is supposed to have an equal opportunity for victory. If one person has a personal pacer, they should be DQd.
In the 2014 and 2016 US indoor championship 3k, Bowerman Track Club used pacers in those races to try and get their athletes through and that barely got any criticism. Mater a fact, last year USATF on twitter praised BTC for their teamwork at the meet. What's the difference in this?
Of course, by that standard, one could say that Igloi used pacers both in Hungary and in the USA.
Of course, when you have 3 of the world's top 1500/mile runners in each case, it becomes a moot point.
rojo wrote:
I just checked my email to see if RickY Simms got back to me about whether Rupp has his own rabbit. Simms didn't write back but another source did.
"He must be the "Hidden" Pacer only (officially there Are no Pacers). I dont think he goes to finish."
Bit this pace is so slow it sure doesnt' look like a pacer. Or maybe they knew people were on to them and cancelled the plans.
Why would Galen need a pacer for a 2:12 race?
fake news wrote:
rojo wrote:I just checked my email to see if RickY Simms got back to me about whether Rupp has his own rabbit. Simms didn't write back but another source did.
"He must be the "Hidden" Pacer only (officially there Are no Pacers). I dont think he goes to finish."
Bit this pace is so slow it sure doesnt' look like a pacer. Or maybe they knew people were on to them and cancelled the plans.
Why would Galen need a pacer for a 2:12 race?
I haven't bashed anyone over let's run before, but Rojo is so flipping stupid for this, like just another level stupid, a** hole level
Better to just admit your theory was wrong. If he was going to pace Rupp, then itwould have been obvious after the first mile. Why would they cancel the plan because of a rumor? How could it be kept a secret?
rojo wrote:
Bit this pace is so slow it sure doesnt' look like a pacer. Or maybe they knew people were on to them and cancelled the plans.
lol
Was Bett a DNF?
I think so.
When did he drop?
wineturtle wrote:
Was Bett a DNF?
I think so.
When did he drop?
After 35k, he was in the top 4 and even with like maybe a mile to go I saw someone in 5th wearing red in the distance.
CLEARLY wasn't pacing Rupp, letsrun is a joke for this, especially Rojo, idk how they can make this bs up and then try and back track like the plan changed because they exposed it lmao
rojo wrote:
I just checked my email to see if RickY Simms got back to me about whether Rupp has his own rabbit. Simms didn't write back but another source did.
"He must be the "Hidden" Pacer only (officially there Are no Pacers). I dont think he goes to finish."
Bit this pace is so slow it sure doesnt' look like a pacer. Or maybe they knew people were on to them and cancelled the plans.
Thanks for exposing this!
Salazar was probably mad that he had to change the race plan because LRC discovered the secret rabbit.
fake news wrote:
So Bett is not running in front of Rupp and not leading the race...rojo is looking like a moran yet again.
Looked like a moron? Did you watch the race. Bett acted EXACTLY like someone would who was there to rabbit for Rupp. The pace was painfully slow over halfway. Over 66 minutes.
What happened then? He went to the lead and dropped out at 30k - just like you'd expect a rabbit to.
And Ricky Simms the agent didn't respond to our email asking if he was a rabbit.
LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAKING SH!T UP.
rojo wrote:
fake news wrote:So Bett is not running in front of Rupp and not leading the race...rojo is looking like a moran yet again.
Looked like a moron? Did you watch the race. Bett acted EXACTLY like someone would who was there to rabbit for Rupp. The pace was painfully slow over halfway. Over 66 minutes.
What happened then? He went to the lead and dropped out at 30k - just like you'd expect a rabbit to.
And Ricky Simms the agent didn't respond to our email asking if he was a rabbit.
Wow, you got it! I was reading this thread and shaking my head until your post.
Bett was hired to pace Rupp to a SLOW pace in case the others went out too fast.
rojo wrote:
fake news wrote:So Bett is not running in front of Rupp and not leading the race...rojo is looking like a moran yet again.
Looked like a moron? Did you watch the race. Bett acted EXACTLY like someone would who was there to rabbit for Rupp. The pace was painfully slow over halfway. Over 66 minutes.
What happened then? He went to the lead and dropped out at 30k - just like you'd expect a rabbit to.
And Ricky Simms the agent didn't respond to our email asking if he was a rabbit.
If he was acting EXACTLY like someone was there to rabbit Rupp, then why wouldn't he be running right in front of Rupp? And why would Rupp need a pacer to run at a pace a couple minutes slower than his PR?
Let it go. You sound ridiculous.
rojo wrote:
fake news wrote:So Bett is not running in front of Rupp and not leading the race...rojo is looking like a moran yet again.
Looked like a moron? Did you watch the race. Bett acted EXACTLY like someone would who was there to rabbit for Rupp. The pace was painfully slow over halfway. Over 66 minutes.
What happened then? He went to the lead and dropped out at 30k - just like you'd expect a rabbit to.
And Ricky Simms the agent didn't respond to our email asking if he was a rabbit.
rojo is the Donald Trump of LetsRun.
fake news wrote:
rojo wrote:Looked like a moron? Did you watch the race. Bett acted EXACTLY like someone would who was there to rabbit for Rupp. The pace was painfully slow over halfway. Over 66 minutes.
What happened then? He went to the lead and dropped out at 30k - just like you'd expect a rabbit to.
And Ricky Simms the agent didn't respond to our email asking if he was a rabbit.
If he was acting EXACTLY like someone was there to rabbit Rupp, then why wouldn't he be running right in front of Rupp? And why would Rupp need a pacer to run at a pace a couple minutes slower than his PR?
Let it go. You sound ridiculous.
You are an idiot.
Al Sal learned from Mo's disastrous London marathon where he was left alone when the pacers ran away from him. Bett was hired to run at no faster than ~2:08 pace (= Rupp's ceiling).