Second idiot of the day...
Second idiot of the day...
Serious question: do Kenyan girls get their hair cut off at age 17 or so? Or is it just girl runners?
Reminds me of Lasse Viren in the 1972 Olympic 10K, falling and then winning in a WR.
ck3237 wrote:
Reminds me of Lasse Viren in the 1972 Olympic 10K, falling and then winning in a WR.
= the first quadruple Olympic gold medalist who was blood doping with autologous blood transfusions way back in the year 1972.
That was fun.
but why wrote:
has there ever been a study to see what happens with non-elites if they took a two minute recovery jog in the middle of a marathon or maybe at mile 20, so then they could hammer at full speed for the last 10k?
I mean could the performance gain over the last 10k exceed the two minute recovery loss?
this has been done countless times. it's called taking a mid-race dump.
So for those who love to jump into age cheating when they win, I will tell you that the kenyan girls are truly young. I didn't hear anyone complain about Rengeruk's age when she got out kicked by Mary Cain. One more note to remember is that if a true 16 years old kenyan runs 3:58 in a mile like the Norway guy, we wouldn't be praising the family and talking about a family 3xmile relay. We will be talking about how he is 25 and cheating. Just saying.
^ So true. 😂
I'm sorry, but really whats the point of the Steeple Chase event? Why not just run a flat 3k?
Great comeback though, but shows how much she was holding back before the shoe adjustment.
Go Celltower Chestcold!!
Go Cellebrity Cheesecake!!
She really is 18, by the way. This article says she's in fourth form at a Nairobi high school, that's equivalent to an American high school senior. Her coach, Gregory Kilonzo, also coaches Ruth Jebet, apparently.
Jeffy wrote:
So for those who love to jump into age cheating when they win, I will tell you that the kenyan girls are truly young. I didn't hear anyone complain about Rengeruk's age when she got out kicked by Mary Cain. One more note to remember is that if a true 16 years old kenyan runs 3:58 in a mile like the Norway guy, we wouldn't be praising the family and talking about a family 3xmile relay. We will be talking about how he is 25 and cheating. Just saying.
Given the sheer extent of the cynical age cheating that goes on in Kenya, the pragmatists among us would automatically decide that this one is another cheat even without evidence.
Why would any sane person presume otherwise?
Trollism, any sane person must know the SPECIFIC fact before speaking, making GENERAL something that is PARTICULAR.
If the American system is to put everybody in the same pot without knowing specific situation, like normally you do when speak about doping or age, I'm sorry to say that this is a demonstration of poor intelligence, of total lack of democracy, of respect for other people, and of arrogance.
While America produces a lot of good thing, and under this point of view is the leader Country in the World, your way of thinking (unfortunately widespread) is the reason because if one terrorist is muslim, ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS, if one black is a thief, ALL BLACKS ARE THIEVES and this authorize police to shot them, if one Kenyan is doped, ALL KENYAN ARE DOPED.
Is like to say that, because some Letsrun poster is idiot and is American, ALL THE LETSUN POSTERS, and ALL AMERICAN, are idiots.
Sorry, your argument can be an excuse, instead is an aggravating circumstance.
And this is a close-up of Celliphine Chespol from Bydgoszcz last year. I'm Kenyan and to me, she looks about 14 or 15.
This is a country that has sent ENTIRE teams to age-group championships that don't fit the correct criteria.
We aren't talking about one or two isolated cases of cheating here, it's cynical and it's widespread. You hear the words 'teenage Kenyan athlete' and 90% of the time the age will be wrong.
Age cheating is probably less of a problem overall (despite the fact that it's prevalence has destroyed junior/youth competition at an international level), than doping. But even with Kenya's massive and unwavering doping problem, age cheating is more widespread.
Not that you would care Renato, a '16 year old' wonderkid is good for the earning potential....
Everybody's so excited.
3000m steeple world record for women should be around 8:48 if run by someone of Dibabas class (considering her 3:50 in 1500m and 8:16 in 3000m indoors). It is a realtively young event without much history, so one should expect races getting faster and faster.
This last race in Eugene is still 10-15 seconds slower than humanly possible.
Expect more to come.
I agree with you : Kenya (and Ethiopia more than Kenya) frequently sent BOYS over age (maybe about 2 years), but NEVER sent girls overage. Sometimes, girls have a passport with a birth date OLDER than their real age, because they are already so strong when only 14 that needs to become older for competing in some championships (specifically in the Junior Team for Cross Country).
However, this fact doesn't cancel your SPECIFIC COMMENT about the age of Cesphol, and about this can be time you, for one time in your life, go to apologize, instead to climb on the glass in order to justify your mistake, clear symptom of a wrong mentality.
I wait for your apologies, if you are a man.
And, always if you are a man, I wait that you stop speaking in GENERAL WAY about something you don't know, as doping and myself.
I hope you want to show you are a man, and not a "quaquaraqua" (ask some Italian from Sicily what it means).
Renato, it's possible to see her running the 5k this year?
What is her potential at this point? 14:30? Faster?
at this point, with all we know about fraudulent kenyan running I'd honestly rather watch a good high school race than some new anonymous kenyan coming out of nowhere and running stupid fast times.
And renato, you have been enabling these people, wittingly or unwittingly.
trollism wrote:
This is a country that has sent ENTIRE teams to age-group championships that don't fit the correct criteria.
We aren't talking about one or two isolated cases of cheating here, it's cynical and it's widespread. You hear the words 'teenage Kenyan athlete' and 90% of the time the age will be wrong.
Age cheating is probably less of a problem overall (despite the fact that it's prevalence has destroyed junior/youth competition at an international level), than doping. But even with Kenya's massive and unwavering doping problem, age cheating is more widespread.
Not that you would care Renato, a '16 year old' wonderkid is good for the earning potential....
Oh, bore off. You'd think there are no teenagers in Kenya going by your mindless rants. May come as a shock, but Kenyans don't start running in their 20s.
You confidently throw out that "90%" figure, pulled out of your ... wherever, with no evidence or specifics. Go ahead, give us names of current juniors you think are age-cheating: Chespol? Lilian Rengeruk? Kipyegon Bett? All teens that continue to remind the likes of you that the glory days of British athletics are over and never coming back. Hopefully, maybe, another imported Somali is lurking somewhere to take over once Farah retires (or gets nabbed).
