Developing Story: Kenyan Coach sent home for posing as Ferguson Rotich in Urine test

Story is developing.....apparently Rotich's coach John Anzrah try to provide urine sample posing at Rotich. Could this be the end of Kenya Track Federation participation in RIO? WOW!!!! Ballsy move!

http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/37053928

The Associated press adn bbc are reporting that Fergusson Rotich's coach was banished from Rio after posing as Rotich in a drug test at the games.

So we obviously now know beyond a reasonable doubt that he's a doper. Why not ban him on the spot?

What is depressingly comical is their strategy to break the rules. It seems they were betting on a racist 'Kenyans all look the same to me' mindset of Olympic officials.

Kenyan Coach John Anzrah has posed as 800 specialist, Ferguson Rotich, for a surprise urine test.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/37053928

I merged 3 threads on the same topic into 1.

Agreed! +1

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

rjm33 wrote:

It is just a regular, non-suspicious coincidence… that just happened by mistake anyway.

OK?

Mmmm. Yes. I see. Just lunch.... It's crazy how the testers were directed to the coach for the test.

Naaaah!!! He was just hungry.

The key question here is, what did he have for breakfast ?

Just doin' their job wrote:

Devil Dog wrote:

Flotrack is reporting that Fergusson Rotich's coach was banished from Rio after posing as Rotich in a drug test at the games.

He was not "posing as Rotich" to the dope-testers, and in fact he told them who he was, and why he had someone else's ID (to access the dining area).

They (correctly I assume) still forced the coach to give a urine sample. Then they tracked down Rotich and tested him too.

I don't think that Rotich actually violated any anti-doping rules, though he probably violated the Olympic village conduct rules about allowing IDs to be shared.

This was not too difficult to figure out.

Coach thinks he's merely getting a free meal, not realizing that Rotichs ID tells doping control exactly where in the Olympic Village he is for random testing purposes.

Take off the tinfoil hats now.

A 61 year old and a 28 year old? Not even close!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHn44dagp_8I thought testers should have not just the name of the athlete but also the face in order to ascertain with 100% perfection they are dealing the right person. Shouldn't they be accompanied by someone who really knows the athlete? Maybe they should include fingerprints or else how do you handle the case of an athlete who has an identical twin like Belgians Kevin and Jonathan Borlee or triplets or a mom who identically resembles her twin daughters?The coach in this case however may have been very confused. If Rotich's manager is to be believed, he had Rotich's credentials for the purpose of accessing free breakfast. When caught, he probably thought the anti-doping agents were breakfast(food) officials charged with making sure only athletes show up for meals. He was a suspect and therefore had no choice but comply to any instructions given. This is plausible because anti-doping agents do not identify themselves; no badges or anything screaming anti-doping. Since Rotich was able to give his blood and urine samples almost immediately, investigation should focus only on the coach, why he acted the way he did.

I. M. Moshennikov wrote:

I have question. How much coach look like athlete?

Spasibo!

malmo wrote:

Take off the tinfoil hats now.

Your comment implies that nothing fishy is coming out of Kenya. A more apt comment would have been, "throw this one on top of the heap - ok, who's next!"

malmo wrote:

Just doin' their job wrote:

[quote]Devil Dog wrote:

Flotrack is reporting that Fergusson Rotich's coach was banished from Rio after posing as Rotich in a drug test at the games.[/quc

I don't think that Rotich actually violated any anti-doping rules, though he probably violated the Olympic village conduct rules about allowing IDs to be shared.

This was not too difficult to figure out.

Coach thinks he's merely getting a free meal, not realizing that Rotichs ID tells doping control exactly where in the Olympic Village he is for random testing purposes.

Take off the tinfoil hats now.

This is a tale worthy of Dostoyevsky.

Devil Dog wrote:

The Associated press adn bbc are reporting that Fergusson Rotich's coach was banished from Rio after posing as Rotich in a drug test at the games.

So we obviously now know beyond a reasonable doubt that he's a doper. Why not ban him on the spot?

They won't ban him because he's African. lol

They are all drug cheats. The powers that be will fight mightily to allow the E. Africans, Cubans and others to cheat, but someday it will all tumble to the ground.

Jefe in the CO wrote:

malmo wrote:

Take off the tinfoil hats now.

Your comment implies that nothing fishy is coming out of Kenya. A more apt comment would have been, "throw this one on top of the heap - ok, who's next!"

My comment didn't IMPLY anything. You've INFERRED something I didn't say.

This 'mystery' wasn't too difficult to solve, Lt Columbo. The coach was due to be admitted into the village today anyway. He just never thought that by sneaking in early he would become the center of a federal case. Simple. Case closed.

HipsterDoofus wrote:

malmo wrote:

This was not too difficult to figure out.

Coach thinks he's merely getting a free meal, not realizing that Rotichs ID tells doping control exactly where in the Olympic Village he is for random testing purposes.

Take off the tinfoil hats now.

This is a tale worthy of Dostoyevsky.

More like Kafka.

kikKomen Soi sauce wrote:

If he gets banned, and he should, I'll have to change my 800m picks for the prediction contest. Fewer top competitors should improve my odds of scoring points.

Aha! So it was you who was behind this scheme. We have the motive, that's all we need to prove you're guilty

malmo wrote:

Jefe in the CO wrote:

Your comment implies that nothing fishy is coming out of Kenya. A more apt comment would have been, "throw this one on top of the heap - ok, who's next!"

My comment didn't IMPLY anything. You've INFERRED something I didn't say.

This 'mystery' wasn't too difficult to solve, Lt Columbo. The coach was due to be admitted into the village today anyway. He just never thought that by sneaking in early he would become the center of a federal case. Simple. Case closed.

We agree on something!

There's kind of a time-honored tradition of coaches helping athletes get free meals and vice versa.

As information became more detailed on this, I too think it was a lame error in judgment by the coach, and ultimately no big deal.

I've said it before but it's worth repeating. The entire Kenyan and Ethiopian squads should have been banned from Rio. Rampant cheating.

Well we know we won't be seeing Jama Aden trying to take a drug test for his athletes.

He said the needles they found were the ones he was using for his own health.

rampant cheating is different than systematic cheating at the state level. I can't speak to what has been going on with Kenya. Just saying there is a big difference.