Justin Gatlin - 2x Convicted Drug Cheat Now A Hero

First off let me speak for many by saying go f u c k yourself.

This mentality is how the world ends up in crises, because people willing to not only bend the rules but shatter them completely destroys it for the rest of us. It isn't just the actual act of drug taking and doping, it's that these people lie, commit perjury, slander other people, engage in character assassination of anyone who questions them. They end up stealing medals, victories, endorsement deals, money. And they can often be part of an actual conspiracy to cover up crimes by doctors, coaches, etc. You're an idiot if you think your response is an acceptable one.

Weights wrote:

Look at sports where the top US athletes are clean, like Olympic weightlifting. They don't get anywhere near the medals. Hell, we only qualified one guy for Rio. More depressing than being represented by a doper like Gatlin, in my opinion.

Lol USA weightlifters are anything but clean. A lot of them are squatting about the same as foreign doped up lifters. You don't get there by drinking Progenix protein powders.

Star wrote:

At least he was convicted and did time and was forced to miss one Olympics in his prime.

Think of all of the drug cheat heroes that were never convicted.

I remain disappointed that they are only handing out 2 year bans right now. 4 years should be the standard. 2nd conviction is lifetime ban.

I'm not convinced Gatlin was knowingly doping, but I think he deserved a 4 year ban regardless, because there is no way to prove if it wasn't intentional (ie he can't prove he was tricked). As far as I am concerned, he has served his time and should be allowed to compete. I'm definitely not lining up for his autograph, but the anti Gatlin rant seems pointless. If you don't think he should be competing, go call for lifetime bans for all doping positives.

But as long as we are handing out 2 year suspensions (again, I think that is too light), it makes no sense to rail on a guy who served a heavier punishment.

Swept under the rug like Hillary's emails

NBC ignored it too wrote:

Yeah NBC neglects to mention his past on their broadcasts. It's like it never happened. Total joke. It's hard to take any of the sprints seriously because of all of this. I mean seriously, how do you not get cynical after years of this crap in TNF?

+1

I do run run run wrote:

First off let me speak for many by saying go f u c k yourself.

This mentality is how the world ends up in crises, because people willing to not only bend the rules but shatter them completely destroys it for the rest of us. It isn't just the actual act of drug taking and doping, it's that these people lie, commit perjury, slander other people, engage in character assassination of anyone who questions them. They end up stealing medals, victories, endorsement deals, money. And they can often be part of an actual conspiracy to cover up crimes by doctors, coaches, etc. You're an idiot if you think your response is an acceptable one.

Clearly Gatlin covered with up with Nike's assistance. Former massuse swept under the rug...

patheticgatlin wrote:

New article today references Gatlin controversy:

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2016/07/post_242.html

But I thought Gatlin didn't actually serve his 4 yrs? Soo dirty...

Someone should investigate

Brojos?

+1

ThisIsItMan wrote:

Clearly Gatlin covered with up with Nike's assistance. Former massuse swept under the rug...

patheticgatlin wrote:

New article today references Gatlin controversy:

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2016/07/post_242.html

But I thought Gatlin didn't actually serve his 4 yrs? Soo dirty...

Covered what up? He got a 4-year ban, didn't he?

Since the steroid era sprinters have been running faster at older and older ages. Alan Wells was the oldest champion at a major at 28. Then Carl Lewis broke a world record and won at 31. Now Gatlin is doing unheard of things at 34. Something smells rotten in the state of Denmark

The point is - Justin Galtin didn't serve his full sentence AND now parades around like a whiny f&$#king comeback kid. The message this sends to our kids - the benefit of drugs in sport far outweigh the consequences. Sick of it!

Karma Police wrote:

ThisIsItMan wrote:

Clearly Gatlin covered with up with Nike's assistance. Former massuse swept under the rug...

Covered what up? He got a 4-year ban, didn't he?

Gatlin still maintains his innocence today.So much for justice.Take drugs, don't get caught and do whatever Nike says

He did sere his four years. He wasn't banned for life because his first infraction had special circumstances.

He is a hero.

He's not a hero to me or to lots of people. If anything, most people look at him as the villain or the "heel" when he races Bolt.

However, he did serve his time under the rules, whether those rules are right or not or not harsh enough in retrospect or whatever. He's subject to drug testing and is presumed innocent like everyone else running. So he has the right to run. The US doesn't pick its Olympic team based on a committee of selectors, but by what the athletes do on the track, so there's not much to do about it.

If I were Nike, however, I would not give him a contract.

Drugs, Drugs, Drugs! wrote:

Since the steroid era sprinters have been running faster at older and older ages. Alan Wells was the oldest champion at a major at 28. Then Carl Lewis broke a world record and won at 31. Now Gatlin is doing unheard of things at 34. Something smells rotten in the state of Denmark

So to be clear, your evidence that all sprinters must be currently doping is that there are top sprinters who are well into their 30s or even older (you probably should mention Kim Collins, since is the oldest sub 10 runner).

Do you have some specific reason for why doping fails to work for sprinters in their 20s? Because your argument doesn't make sense to me, since it is implying that doping pushes sprinters in their 30s to be better than they could have been when in their 20s, because I assume anybody who is willing to cheat in their 30s would have been willing to cheat in their 20s as well.

so if Gatlin was innocent and a victim he served his time for nothing? the guy is so dirty

dbfoen wrote:

The point is - Justin Galtin didn't serve his full sentence AND now parades around like a whiny f&$#king comeback kid.

The message this sends to our kids - the benefit of drugs in sport far outweigh the consequences.

Sick of it!

Karma Police wrote:

Covered what up? He got a 4-year ban, didn't he?

Gatlin never got caught and he says he was sabatoged by his massuse!!! you'd have to be a complete idiot to believe that crap after the way Whetstine was treated by Nike corp

Hatsofftoykus wrote:

so if Gatlin was innocent and a victim he served his time for nothing?

the guy is so dirty

dbfoen wrote:

The point is - Justin Galtin didn't serve his full sentence AND now parades around like a whiny f&$#king comeback kid.

The message this sends to our kids - the benefit of drugs in sport far outweigh the consequences.

Sick of it!

SUMS IT ALL UP

dbfoen wrote:

Gatlin still maintains his innocence today.

So much for justice.

Take drugs, don't get caught and do whatever Nike says

ThisIsItMan wrote:

+1

Justin Gatlin's 8-yr ban should never have been lowered.

"Gatlin was coached by Trevor Graham. Among athletes Graham has coached, eight have tested positive or received bans for performance-enhancing drugs.[9] After Gatlin's failed test, Graham stated in an interview that Gatlin had been sabotaged.[10] He blamed massage therapist Christopher Whetstine for rubbing a creme with testosterone onto Gatlin's buttocks without his knowledge. The therapist denied the claim, saying: "Trevor Graham is not speaking on behalf of Justin Gatlin and the story about me is not true."[11]

On August 22, 2006, Gatlin accepted an eight-year ban from track and field, avoiding a lifetime ban in exchange for his cooperation with the doping authorities, and because of the "exceptional circumstances" surrounding his first positive drug test. Gatlin appealed against the ban; an arbitration panel reduced it to four years at a hearing in December 2007.[12][13] His 9.77s performance, set in May 2006, was annulled."

SOURCE:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Gatlin#Doping_bans