BREAKING: UK runner with Aden's during drug raid!! Link Attached

You are mostly correct about how the drug testing is a farce, a scam and a PR exercise. However pops, you are also playing into the hand of the drug dealers with your lack of knowledge of physiology.

In other words, you promote drug use with your drug obsession.

We've changed the title of this thread as there is zero evidence that Mo Farah was there. The thread's initial title was, "BREAKING: UK runner with Aden's during drug raid!! MO FARAH?!?!?!?!? Link Attached"

ATHLETICS DOPING

Barcelona, ​​June 20 (EFE) .- The Police have arrested Monday Jama Aden coach, accused of trafficking of doping substances allegedly supplied EPO and anabolic steroids to some of the international athletes with which it is concentrated in Sabadell (Barcelona ), which they are located more than 60 syringes.

In operation, supervised by the instruction court number 5 of Sabadell (Barcelona), the Catalan police have arrested the Somali Jama Aden, coach, among others, world champion of 1,500 meters, the Ethiopian Genzebe Dibaba and a physiotherapist of Moroccan origin, and have also denounced one of the athletes, if any sportsman not Olympic.

Speaking to reporters, the Minister of Interior, Jordi Jané, explained that the Catalan police have found more than 60 syringes and EPO, anabolic steroids and performance-enhancing drugs -but not itself illegal in Spain, used for recoveries endovenous in the hotel Arrahona Sabadell, where thirty international athletes trained by Aden concentrated.

The operation was carried out by the Mossos d'Esquadra paths following complaints filed in 2015 by the Spanish Agency for Health Protection and in Sport (Doping) and the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) against an alleged network trafficking of doping substances.

In addition to the practices by the Catalan police arrest six doctors IAFF have had 27 athletes who train in Sabadell orders Aden to doping control, so that testing positive, could face an administrative penalty the sports field at the gates of the Olympic Games this summer will be held in Rio de Janeiro.

Jané has stressed that it is the first time that it is carried out simultaneously and coordinated a police operation against an alleged trafficking of doping substances, in this case by the Mossos d'Esquadra, with a doping control elite athletes, by the Spanish Anti-Doping Association and the International Association of Athletics Federations.

According to the Mossos d'Esquadra, the police investigation started more than a year ago, in 2015, following allegations of anti-doping and the IAFF, given the suspicions of doping practices in Aden Jama that incurred in the concentrations of athletes Sabadell, most distance runners.

In police records, authorized by the judge, in six of the rooms have been found evidentiary material as used syringes and substances like EPO and performance-enhancing anabolic steroids and intravenous medications recovery.

The Minister of Interior did not want to deepen when asked him if elite athletes come to train to Spain because it is a punishable offense doping and has been limited to remember that the trafficking of doping substances or illegal drugs yes it is punished by the Penal Code and punish doping would be a decision that would rest with the legislature.

The Mossos have reached the hotel Arrahona Sabadell at 08:30 am (6:30 GMT), taking advantage of the athletes were no longer in it, to ensure the establishment and to proceed to the registration of some rooms of Jama Aden trained athletes.

Some of the agents were then shifted to the running track of Sabadell, where they were exercising thirty athletes who make up the concentration, which led back to the hotel, where six doctors of the International Athletics Federation ( IAFF) waiting for them to submit to doping controls almost all of them in total to 27.

Blood samples and urine samples will now be analyzed in all likelihood in the anti-doping laboratory in Barcelona, ​​accredited by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), with the expectation that they can know the results before the dispute of the European Championships in Athletics , held between 6 and 10 July in Amsterdam, almost a month before the opening of the games in Rio.

Among the athletes participating in the concentration in Sabadell to be trained by Jama Aden include athletes from Ethiopia, Algeria, Sudan, Yemen, Qatar, Egypt, United Kingdom and Djibouti, according to sources consulted by Efe.

Jama Aden's arrest puts under suspicion the successes of athletes consecrated as the Ethiopian Genzebe Didaba, that experts choose the gold medal of the 1,500 meters in Rio, and the Algerian Taofin Makhlaufi.

What the pro's are saying wrote:

Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

I don't disagree that there are people cheating, but just because someone does great or has a wr doesn't mean they are cheating is the point especially if you have no proof. Some people work really hard and try new training methods to get better, training itself has come a long way.

No-one is doubting Dibaba is a great athlete. But Aden is most likely doping her. She is young and stupid.

Do you believe these death threat stories, from the whisleblowers, or do you think they are just making it up?

I responded to someone accusing Bekele Haile etc of cheating, they have nothing to with dibaba last time I checked

Fair enough, but Genzebe Dibaba is the sister of Tirunesh, Ejegayehu and Dejene Dibaba. So this is very bad for them and for Ethiopian running.

I wonder, what do they think of her being coached by him?

rojo wrote:

I have taken the name MO Farah off the thread title. It was initially titled, "REAKING: UK runner with Aden's during drug raid!! MO FARAH?!?!?!?!? Link Attached" but there is zero evidence that Farah was there.

thanks. I am no fan of Mo Farah, but this was a bit too much.

What the pro's are saying wrote:

Fair enough, but Genzebe Dibaba is the sister of Tirunesh, Ejegayehu and Dejene Dibaba. So this is very bad for them and for Ethiopian running.

I wonder, what do they think of her being coached by him?

I agree, she'll always be suspected now even if she is "clean" not the rep you want on yourself or your country, I'm not sure who they were coached by though, anyway it'll be interesting to see this story develope more and see what happens, it's really terrible for running in general how much we have to hear about doping now

Sure wrote:

Darn, I don't hate Mo but I also don't like him, and having the biggest distance name to be caught like this would be a huge shakeup for distance running.

In the long run - all puns intended - it would be the best thing for the sport.

Rabah Yousif? He is represented by Ulf Saletti according to IAAF website. Ulf is also Souleiman's rep and was Mak's rep until Mak left Aden.

What year did Mak leave Aden? 2013 sounds about right. 2013 was the year the investigation of Aden started. Maybe Mak was tipped off by someone?

depends.. wrote:

You are mostly correct about how the drug testing is a farce, a scam and a PR exercise. However pops, you are also playing into the hand of the drug dealers with your lack of knowledge of physiology.

In other words, you promote drug use with your drug obsession.

I don't have a fascination with the drugs themselves. The drugs themselves is a "How does that work?" side issue for me. Besides hobbyjogging, I am entertained by the corruption and all the lies that are produced to explain the corruption.

Help a brother out if I'm wrong. I'm certainly no physiologist. What's a better answer?

rojo wrote:

I have taken the name MO Farah off the thread title. It was initially titled, "REAKING: UK runner with Aden's during drug raid!! MO FARAH?!?!?!?!? Link Attached" but there is zero evidence that Farah was there.

It's about a god damn time

You guys mite wanna change the name of this website from letsrun to lets bash Mo Farah

Well, Toni, start a website named welovemofarah.com

Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

What the pro's are saying wrote:

Fair enough, but Genzebe Dibaba is the sister of Tirunesh, Ejegayehu and Dejene Dibaba. So this is very bad for them and for Ethiopian running.

I wonder, what do they think of her being coached by him?

I agree, she'll always be suspected now even if she is "clean" not the rep you want on yourself or your country, I'm not sure who they were coached by though, anyway it'll be interesting to see this story develope more and see what happens, it's really terrible for running in general how much we have to hear about doping now

I mentioned over 2 years ago that something strange was going on with Genzebe Dibaba. In 2014 she had that incredible indoor season where in a span of 2 weeks she set 3 records and came with in a few seconds of setting a 4th. In 2013 Genzebe ran a 3:55 1500. That time was 8 seconds faster than she had ever run and was the fastest time indoors or outdoors in the 1500 since the Chinese in 1997. Five days later, she set the world indoor record in the 3K running 8:16, where she ran over half a minute faster than she had ever run and a couple days after that she set the 2-mile record, breaking Meseret Defar's record by six seconds. You would think Genzebe would be toast of the town, but there was very little fanfare in Ethiopia, most of the top Ethiopians athletes seemed to be distancing themselves from her, even her family members. The following year you think she would get a Usain Bolt type contract, but she was actually dropped by her sponsor Adidas and her management team Global Sports.

I was hesitant to speculate about PEDs because of her pedigree at the junior level and the fact that her family had a tradition of running fast times. But when you think about it, there have been other talented Ethiopian women who even in their prime, could not have come close to what Genzebe accomplished in a couple of weeks. Of course she went on to run a 3:50 1500. Based on her 1500 and 3k times and her 14:18 5K indoors, she should be able to run close 14 flat in a 5K. I think she held back on breaking her sister's 5K record last year in Paris. Genzebe ran behind Ayana the entire race and then dropped Ayana by 30 meters the last 400m. He ran the last lap in 63, which basically says she was pretty much cruising up to that point and she still managed to run 14:15, which is only 3 seconds shy of the record. I watched 2 videos of her workouts, in one workout using the video time, she appeared to be stringing together sub-60 400m running with her male training partners. One of her 400m's appeared to be sub-54. If she was a high school boy, from her training, I would project a 1:53x 800 and/or a 4:10 mile and based on her XC acumen, the 10k could probably be hers as well.

Is Genzebe really that good, I guess it is possible, but more likely what we are seeing is the effects of PEDs when given to a young and extremely talented athlete.

well whether they catch the athletes or not this will really damper the ability to get supply. i think it may also strike a little fear to other sopers. expect slow times in rio. if farah lays an egg everyone will know why.

Mays is in the training video with the crappy track.

Lots of interesting points, and I definitely agree that there's a high chance of PEDs being involved, running wrs close together and by so much isn't something we EVER see, although at the world championships last year she got dropped by Ayana and struggled in for third I believe in the 5k. On the other hand in the 1500 she closed faster for her last 800 than anyone woman ran 800 flat that year and she eased in, it's all great at the time but you go back to thinking about all the Chinese women who were doping in the 90s and the record she's breaking belong to them it's very questionable. And now that her coach is found with so many athletes using drugs I think this is a case where she can pretty much be considered guilty toll proven innocent.

Farah hasn't been looking particularly dominant anyways in the few races he's run this year anyways- winning the 10k, (barely) a 3k record, and bronze behind Kamwror. I suppose not many people in the world at 5k/10k have looked amazing this year though either... maybe Mo wanted another training stint abroad with Aden to get his 52 last lap back in action. This could really clear up Rio.

Maybe the average times this year are down to the melodonium...

Mo Farah should not be in the thread title and is no longer, but to think that he is free and clear of all this is absolutely wrong-headed, because he spent long winter training periods with this group year after year in Kenya and Ethiopia.

He'll have caught a break surely that this bust occurred in Spain when he was not with the group. But don't count on Aden necessarily not chirping when the police put the screws on him and ask for names. This bust, in combination with the Russian investigations, will at least clear a great deal of the likely medal-winning dopers from the Olympics in the middle distances. But it is unlikely that Farah will be caught before then and we will still have the farce of Kenyan dopers, like those who ran absolutely incredible times in rainstorms on a hilly course a few months back, and intergender athletes dominating the women's 800m.

I have said this before, people criticized me on how i put my opinion on how fast people could run. I think it is time to think about all of these world record holders. Go back to the record that comes after 1987, and check all of them. Almost non of them are run by clean runner. It does not matter whether it is the mans or women's world record. I have said this before and i am going to say this again.

The world record for men and women should be like this with 5% on both side

26.2 mile man 2:07:25

26.2 mile women 2:25:20

21km men 1:00:36

21km women 1:08:23

10k men 26:52

10km women 30:25

5mkm men 12:58

5km women 14:25

3Km men 7:32

3km women 8:20

1500 men 3:30

1500 women 3:57

This is with adding or subtracting 5%

any thing way faster than this should be under a radar for doping.