All NOP vs all BTC? If focused soley on the race like Hill? No chance for BTC. I don't care if you say, okay no Farah, they'd never be able to shake Rupp on a fast pace or burn centro, or probably Rupp on a sit and kicker.
All NOP vs all BTC? If focused soley on the race like Hill? No chance for BTC. I don't care if you say, okay no Farah, they'd never be able to shake Rupp on a fast pace or burn centro, or probably Rupp on a sit and kicker.
I was counting current rosters and what they ran will with group. I didn't include Mo because want it to be about American athlete that run for groups and it wouldn't be close if he was counted.
Medals:
NOP Ritz 1/2 marathon champ, Rupp 10k and Centro1500
BTCI did miss Infeld in 10k, Flangan won hers will training with Cook
American records Rupp has 2 the 10k and indoor and Rowbury in 1500
I do count the Pre 10 because it was the fastest and most competitive of the year.
As far as fastest Teg and Solinsky are retired so no longer part of the group. If you want to remove Ritz, Rupp has fastest 5k.
Jinglebells wrote:
"Day 1 in the books...no rabbits or lambs, just hard running"
OTC also wasnt too happy with the BTC pacing. I guess if it's not in the rule books then it's not illegal but still doesn't seem like good competition
What is a lamb?
Post title is 3k indoors wrote:
And as others have pointed out, Rowbury has record.
(And even Solinsky was with OTC not BTC when he ran hat is no longer 10k record).
But incorrect stats or facts just really piss me off, ya know.
Rowbury has two American Records
1500m
2 mile
She also has a world bronze (1500m) as well as a Diamond League win (3000m)
Ummmmmmm, ever heard of the Old Testament?
ouch...
If you put NOP vs BTC in top shape, fully rested, this year, 3k, NOP wins every time
Mo Farah, Galen Rupp, Matt Centrowitz, Eric Jenkins, Cam Levins
vs
Ryan Hill, Evan Jager, Lopez Lamong, Andy Bayer, Chris Derrick
1) Mo Farah 10
2) Galen Rupp 8
3) Ryan Hill 6
4) Matt Centrowitz 5
5) Evan Jager 4
6) Eric Jenkins 3
7/8) Lopez Lamong/Cam Levins 1.5
NOP- 27.5
BTC- 11.5
Even if you argue Hill ahead of Rupp, Jager ahead of Centro, and have Lopez definitely over Cam, they still win
rojo wrote:
Where are you getting theses stats? Incorrect stats drive me nuts.
Hahahahahahahahahha, omg, Rojo, you're going to have to come back and explain yourself.
It will probably not go like this:
"LRC community, the smartest, most informed community of experts on track & field in the World, I might add. Look, I was wr...wrrrrr...wohrrrrr...ok, I wasn't 100% right butte, I was certainly close enough for a passing grade at most institution of higher learning, including many if not all Ivy League schools across the great northeast land of ours.
All these years I have been the victim of accusations of bias against Nike, NOP, the great state of Oregon and the whole frigging West Coast for that matter. And all these years I have pushed back violently to show that I wasn't. Well, my faithful and smart fans of LRC, once again you were write and I was wrong. Clearly I do have a bias and my off the Aisling Cuffe post comparing NOPe...(damn it I did it again) to BTC was wrrrrrnnnn...whooorrr...incorrect and should have been more thought out then it was.
From hear on out I promise to you, my adoring, childish but lovable LRC posters that I will do my best to undue the West Coast bias that my very conservative brother Weldon (did you know he was planning on voting for Trump?) has insisted that we maintain at LRC HQ from the beginning. It will be a tough road to ho but, with your admiration and support I know I can get this done. For starters we'll be throwing a lot less shade at AlSal and Rupp and I will personally write a fawning article about Rupp that the fanboys will definitely agree is Rupp Certified (nudge, nudge, wink, wink). Oh yeah, and I'll be voting for Hillary this election cycle."
If Wang can run 10K with two hearts, then rojo can run a website with half a brain.
I'll take the under on half. Seriously, the guy needs to get help because he's either in an alcoholic stupor or addicted to pain pills. He hasn't posted anything coherent in about two years.
Wang Chung wrote:
If Wang can run 10K with two hearts, then rojo can run a website with half a brain.
Matthew won 1 medal while at the University of Oregon.
Nike does pay the UofO coaches on top of their university salary (so they own them), and some key athletes "work" with Salazar under the table (ask around its disturbing) but officially you can't count that as an NOP medal.
His 2013 does count for NOP.
If you're counting XC you should count indoor totals as well.
Caps Oregon Corner wrote:
Matthew won 1 medal while at the University of Oregon.
Nike does pay the UofO coaches on top of their university salary (so they own them), and some key athletes "work" with Salazar under the table (ask around its disturbing) but officially you can't count that as an NOP medal.
His 2013 does count for NOP.
If you're counting XC you should count indoor totals as well.
Work with him...on supplement advice? "Testosterone cream"? Asthma diagnosis? Thyroid boosting?
rojo wrote:
Where are you getting theses stats? Incorrect stats drive me nuts.
That's pretty funny Jefe; well dun.