Cameron Magnum Cron$ity you will be missed. It was before your time was do! I know you are making people laugh and grinding away some miles somewhere else! Your energy will never die here. Your friends won't let your legend die either! You touched too many peoples live's in a such a special way! Long live the Legend!
Here's an article that discusses his post-ZAP plans. As for the reports that the driver thought she'd hit a deer and that it was hit-and-run, it was stated by friends on his FB page that a cyclist found him, indicating she left the scene.
http://www.outsideonline.com/2018586/former-pro-runner-killed-car
For anyone interested in trying to create a positive impact here, the Chattanooga running community has set up a fund.
Wow, someone already donated $10,000 to that fund me page. Where is the money for that actually going?
MikeD wrote:
Yes she crossed both lanes. Yes she left the scene
mob justice wrote:
Nice mob you have there. Where did you get the idea she left the scene or claimed she hit a deer, where,
BLOWING ROCK - A sad day for Zap Fitness Foundation on Monday. Cameron Bean, a long time zap resident athlete, died Monday, two days after he was struck by a hit-and-run driver while running. Bean was seriously injured on Saturday in his hometown of Chattanooga, TN. Bean, 28, was the 2010 Southern Conference Champion in the 3,000m steeplechase at Samford and worked his way up to being the ninth ranked American in that event in 2013.
Source:
https://www.goblueridge.net/sports/29640-cameron-dean-passes-awayThat's wonderful. Our local running club is planning to donate in his name, either to ZAP or to this fund.
This ^^^^
way too many drivers get away with sh** like this every day, and it's complete bullshit. I've been at more than a few races with Cam, super dude, absolut bullcrap that she gets away with this ( but you know the cops will just let it slide).
Look at it this way, if I walked around with my pistol in my hand, finger on the trigger, and it "accidentally" went off (btw, no such thing as an "accidental" discharge), then it's 100% on me for hurting someone. same damn thing when you're driving a deadly weapon that weighs two tons, can kill anyone it runs into, including yourself. If you can't see, slow the EFF DOWN until you can safely navigate the road. ANYTHING less than that exact action is 100% negligent, pure and simple. guarantee that Cam won't see justice, and I'm f***ing pissed about it. Grow some huevos TN cops, do your friggin job!
It's not up to the cops to charge the driver, the DA is the person who looks at the evidence gathered in any investigation and decides whether or not to charge someone. You can't blame the cops for anything.
*disclaimer* I'm a collegiate runner and future cop, I get both sides of this, it pisses me off that it happened and it pisses me off that people blame cops if people don't get charged for stuff like this.
savage wrote:
It's not up to the cops to charge the driver, the DA is the person who looks at the evidence gathered in any investigation and decides whether or not to charge someone. You can't blame the cops for anything.
*disclaimer* I'm a collegiate runner and future cop, I get both sides of this, it pisses me off that it happened and it pisses me off that people blame cops if people don't get charged for stuff like this.
The DA is the person who looks at the evidence gathered in any investigation and decides whether or not they will win IF they decide to charge someone. Many DAs will not charge anyone if they don't really think they will win. I've seen this myself.
Hopefully the police are diligent in collecting everything necessary for the DA to charge this woman.
hmrambling wrote:
savage wrote:It's not up to the cops to charge the driver, the DA is the person who looks at the evidence gathered in any investigation and decides whether or not to charge someone. You can't blame the cops for anything.
*disclaimer* I'm a collegiate runner and future cop, I get both sides of this, it pisses me off that it happened and it pisses me off that people blame cops if people don't get charged for stuff like this.
The DA is the person who looks at the evidence gathered in any investigation and decides whether or not they will win IF they decide to charge someone. Many DAs will not charge anyone if they don't really think they will win. I've seen this myself.
Hopefully the police are diligent in collecting everything necessary for the DA to charge this woman.
I love how so many on this forum have already convicted this woman. Perhaps what happened is exactly as she described - perhaps not. Hopefully, an investigation will determine what happened. However, as a runner, I am often furious at both runners and cyclists who insist on running on roads or on the shoulder of busy roads. Just yesterday, I came close to hitting two cyclists who insisted on riding on the road. It was around sunset and as the car in the front of me and I came around a corner, it was almost impossible not to hit them. They were riding side by side on a busy road at a busy time of day. IF I had hit them, I wasn't speeding, wasn't on my phone or texting, no one else in the car to distract me, and wasn't even listening to music. However, some on this forum would insist I be punished.
The roads are for cars. If you insist on running/cycling on the road/on the shoulder of a road, then you have decided to risk your life. Even the best drivers aren't perfect and a 2 ton car going anywhere from 35-60 MPH is going to cause serious harm/death when a mistake happens.
While it is absolutely tragic that an evidently accomplished and wonderful young man has died, it may or may not deserve for the driver to receive a severe punishment. Unfortunately, sometimes there are tragic ACCIDENTS. Proclaiming that the driver was drunk, texting, etc is wrong.
already guilty? wrote: I love how so many on this forum have already convicted this woman. Perhaps what happened is exactly as she described - perhaps not. Hopefully, an investigation will determine what happened. However, as a runner, I am often furious at both runners and cyclists who insist on running on roads or on the shoulder of busy roads. Just yesterday, I came close to hitting two cyclists who insisted on riding on the road. It was around sunset and as the car in the front of me and I came around a corner, it was almost impossible not to hit them. They were riding side by side on a busy road at a busy time of day. IF I had hit them, I wasn't speeding, wasn't on my phone or texting, no one else in the car to distract me, and wasn't even listening to music. However, some on this forum would insist I be punished.
The roads are for cars. If you insist on running/cycling on the road/on the shoulder of a road, then you have decided to risk your life. Even the best drivers aren't perfect and a 2 ton car going anywhere from 35-60 MPH is going to cause serious harm/death when a mistake happens.
While it is absolutely tragic that an evidently accomplished and wonderful young man has died, it may or may not deserve for the driver to receive a severe punishment. Unfortunately, sometimes there are tragic ACCIDENTS. Proclaiming that the driver was drunk, texting, etc is wrong.
I am very familiar with the road that Cam was running, having run it myself many times. It is a dead-end road with great visibility. It is not a "busy road." I am not sure why you made that assumption. In fact, it is a road that many runners and cyclists use regularly because being a dead end the traffic is light and the visibility is great.
I do agree with your point that the driver may not deserve punishment, and that this could have been an accident. Those who know this stretch of road, however, struggle to see how an accident like this could have occurred without some form of negligence on the part of the driver.
C Parker wrote:
Just terrible. Could have happened to any of us.
Condolences to his family.
Rest in peace, Cameron. Yes, this could have been any of us. Sobering...
deleuze wrote:
already guilty? wrote:The roads are for cars. If you insist on running/cycling on the road/on the shoulder of a road, then you have decided to risk your life.
Unfortunately, sometimes there are tragic ACCIDENTS. Proclaiming that the driver was drunk, texting, etc is wrong.
I do agree with your point that the driver may not deserve punishment, and that this could have been an accident. Those who know this stretch of road, however, struggle to see how an accident like this could have occurred without some form of negligence on the part of the driver.
I think when the general public assumes "roads are for cars," everyone needs to take a step back ... roads are for PEOPLE, and all cars are are vehicles for people! Even on interstates, where it is not even legal to run, pedestrians still have the right of way (I specifically remember this point in driver's ed, many years back!). The culture of cars is entrenched enough that people don't even register the fact that pedestrian's lives are just as valuable as the driver's.
In this case, I think there was clearly an element of negligence - if the driver just crossed into her own shoulder and hit a runner, that would be one thing, but instead, she went ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE ROAD.
Clearly there is no way to have a perfect system when we share the roads - and I am by NO means perfect on the roads either - but I think a lot could be solved by mandating people try other modes of transportation. If everyone had the personal experience of walking, running, biking, AND driving on a road - they might respect all the other modes of transportation a little more ... (and maybe be willing to support more funding for pedestrian/bike paths!)
Anyway ... RIP Cameron. I did not know him, but when the name and picture popped up, it was all to familiar - I had been looking at the ZAP Fitness website earlier this summer, and remembered having looked at his profile. He was one of the ones who inspired me, and made me think, "You've just got to keep training, you don't know what your limits are if you don't keep going!" In the running community, the ripples go further than just those who knew him directly.
hmrambling wrote:
savage wrote:It's not up to the cops to charge the driver, the DA is the person who looks at the evidence gathered in any investigation and decides whether or not to charge someone. You can't blame the cops for anything.
*disclaimer* I'm a collegiate runner and future cop, I get both sides of this, it pisses me off that it happened and it pisses me off that people blame cops if people don't get charged for stuff like this.
The DA is the person who looks at the evidence gathered in any investigation and decides whether or not they will win IF they decide to charge someone. Many DAs will not charge anyone if they don't really think they will win. I've seen this myself.
Hopefully the police are diligent in collecting everything necessary for the DA to charge this woman.
The woman who hit Cameron was driving in unsafe conditions (setting sun). Had this occurred during a snowstorm would she be prosecuted? What about icy roads? How is this any different than distracted driving, or DUI? Doubt this woman will be charged......how would she stand up to a civil suit though?
Most dangerous time to run on roads is dawn & dusk because of the sun thing. Know of a female cyclist who met her end this way.
Sadly this doesn't bring Cameron back; seemed like a nice guy.
My condolences to his family and friends. In hopes of shedding a little more light on this tragedy, here's a link with more accident details along with my thoughts.
The accident occured around 6:45PM near 183 Moccasin Bend Road, Chattanooga. He was going southbound on the left side of the road. The car was also going southbound. The driver said the sun got in her eyes. All of this information is from the following news report.
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/30073557/pedestrian-struck-while-running-listed-in-serious-condition
I sometimes recreate bike/motorcycle/runner accidents online to see what I might have done differently.
Here is what I discovered. Moccasin Bend is a dead end road ending at a mental health facility. 183 Moccasin Bend is close to the very end of this road, which is running almost straight south (180 degrees) at this point. There is a speed bump at/around 196 Moccasin Bend to slow traffic. Trees line the road on the west side. At 6:45PM, the sun would be at 10 degrees above the horizon at 264 degrees west. It looks to me like the entire road would be in the shade hours earlier than 6:45PM. I don't know what he could have done to avoid this accident.
You can see 183 Moccasin Bend Road on Google Maps using the road's eye view.
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You can find the sun's angle altitude and direction at
it wasn't an idea.. It is the facts. I was there with the people who found him at the hospital..
I can even accept an accident for her hitting him if it is the truth. Give me a good reason why she left him to die on the side of the road..
Yes ^ Looking at the Google map of that road makes me wonder if she was in a hurry to get to the mental health center.
http://chattanoogan.com/2015/9/23/308819/Cameron-Mark-Bean.aspx
Someone should go tomorrow and take pictures at small time increments bevor and after the time if this incident. If you Americans can't trust your police you need to take it public.
Mrs. M wrote:
Yes ^ Looking at the Google map of that road makes me wonder if she was in a hurry to get to the mental health center.
http://chattanoogan.com/2015/9/23/308819/Cameron-Mark-Bean.aspx
I hope they check her phone records around the time of the collision.
Update:
CHATTANOOGA, TN (WRCB) -
UPDATE: Chattanooga police have identified a driver accused of striking and fatally injuring a 28-year-old professional runner.
Police are still working to determine what led up to 59-year-old Valerie Bray hitting Cameron Bean on Saturday on Moccasin Bend Road.
Investigators have interviewed Bray and are working to download electronic data from her vehicle. They are also reconstructing the crash and verifying road conditions that day as part of the investigation.
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/30073557/pedestrian-struck-while-running-listed-in-serious-condition